Perhaps one of the biggest hurdles to opening up one's perceptions to the ever more "non local" and psychic in nature, is the issue of trust.  Trust relates back to the issue of fear.  Sometimes it's just a little fear of, "what if i am wrong in my perceptions?" 

  Sometimes, opening up, requires a bit of a leap of trust and going with your feelings.  I've long observed that women tend to be more consciously psychic than men.  Perhaps one of the reasons for this, is because the realm and experience of feelings and emotions has long been associated with the feminine nature and experience.  It seems that many more women then men are more in touch with that more subtle feeling side of perception. 

  I don't consider myself especially psychic at this point in my life.   Yet, it's the little experiences like i had today, which help to build up that trust, and in building up that trust, we seem to open that much more.  Today, i took my client to a frozen yogurt place that i only once in a great while go to.  Since my client is moderately autistic and not particularly talkative or interactive, and gets really focused on food, i was sitting there eating my yogurt somewhat bored because i might as well not have existed at that point in my young friend's reality. 

  So, i was looking around and observing others a bit.  I observed the young woman who had served us a few minutes before.  She had an interesting, slightly different vibe.  Something about her struck me as artistic and sensitive in nature. 

  Feeling that out, i got a flash impression of her playing the piano, and it being something important to her. 

   I thought about asking her about this, but a part of me doubted and was like, "what's the point, you're probably wrong anyway, and besides, she'll think you weird or creepy." 

  However, the nudge to talk to her was more persistent, and so on our way out, i decided to go up to her and ask her about this.  "I have an odd question for you, do you happen to play the piano?"  Pause, and intently looking into my eyes at this point, she replied, "Yes i play the piano."  Seeing her face look more and more puzzled, i said, "Oh, well that's funny, because for some reason i got a strong impression that you play the piano." 

  She replied, probably a bit nervous or confused, "thank you"   I'm not sure what she was thanking me for, but i warmly said my goodbyes and left. 

   So, despite it being a kind of small and minor experience--to some extent, there was a bit of one of those "trust leaps".   I figured before i got up to ask her, "what's the worse that could happen, that you're wrong, so what". 

  Not quite related, but also another recent experience is the great Chicken caper we experienced recently.  Becky and i bought a couple of chickens this last Saturday for eggs.  We had also gotten a hutch with doors that have both hooks and latches.  After letting them graze in the backyard for awhile and getting acquainted with each other, we had to go somewhere and it was soon to be dark, so we put them in the hutch and Becky swears she closed and put the hook on the door. 

  When we came back, a few hours later, i went to check on them, and saw that the door was wide open and no chickens to be found...  What did happen to those chickens we had named Gertrude and Gladys (Becky's idea, not mine btw    )??? 

  No idea, figured it might have been our more clever and curious cats, but they wouldn't admit anything beyond a gleam of mischevious look in their eyes.  That Sat. night it poored, and it rained the next day. 

We looked for them, since, sporadically, but could find no trace.  That was until, yesterday, a neighbor of ours said he spotted the dark one, Gertrude, near his property.  He tried to shoo her down to our place, but decided to knock on teh door to get me.  By the time i came out with him, she had vanished like Houdini again.  I searched up and down the road for her, and not seeing a single feather or hearing a single squack, i gave up.  But, being the persistent Fixed Rising sign and Capricorn Goat Sun sign i am, i continued my quest a bit later, but again to no avail. 

  However, this time, when i came back home, i felt nudged to try something different.  I prayed.  I said something like, "If it is the Creative Forces Will, please return Gertrude (the one spotted earlier and the one i was looking for) home soon."  Then, i let go and let Source, so to speak.

  Some hours later, while traveling together, Becky gets a call on her cell phone from a number she didn't recognize.  She had the day before, printed off a few flyers and put them in some mail boxes.  Apparently, her intuition guided her to where she put them, because the man on the phone explained the perplexing situation, "Well, i went out to get my mail today, saw a flyer about a chicken, and then happened to notice that a chicken was in my yard."    He, not knowing anything about chickens, didn't know if he could catch her, but wanted to let us know at least that he saw her and told us where he lived. 

  A couple hours later, he called back, and told us that he and another neighbor had successfully retrieved Miss Gertrude.  It was a sad irony, which we couldn't help but laugh a bit at despite being mostly vegetarian, that the neighbor friend only had a Bojangles (like KFC) box on hand to put her in.  Poor Gertrude, bad enough being lost for almost 5 days in the "wilderness", then getting stuffed in a Bojangles box.   That's got to come close to experiencing a temporal Chicken hell. 

  Anyways, point is, she came back that same day after the prayer.  Again, trust and a bit of a leap of faith involved. 

 

Justin,

I'm not trying to stir up argument here, but do you see your events as any different from mine?  I say that I receive and perceive information from my "Guidance" and that I trust and follow it.  You seem to be describing the exact kind of thing. 

Yet how come when I tried to talk about it before in another thread, the subject became a debate about the fact that perhaps I'm not challenging myself by channeling a high level being as opposed to low level beings?  That made no sense to me, as all I was saying was that I don't feel a sense of information coming from a being.  Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.  But it's the same as what you have, and what everyone else has.  Maybe I just didn't describe it well enough to make that clear, but I see no difference in the way in which I use my own perception and what you've described above.  So not to dredge up that old argument....but do you feel you received the information about the woman as a piano player as coming to you from some high level or low level being or something in between?  Or what?  I have yet to be able to pinpoint it to something as that, so I simply call it my Guidance.  I think Bruce used that word and that's where I adopted it from.  Or maybe I got it from somewhere else.  All I know is, I just trust the feeling and perception I receive, just as you did about the woman who plays piano.   

So, your piano example is perfect...exactly the kind of thing I experience all the time.  I could describe tons of ways in which the information comes to me, but the technical stuff doesn't matter.  You are right, trust what you feel and receive, then verify what you can.  It builds confidence and opens perception even further. 

Vicky wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:


  Not necessarily.  I mentioned a few times before that i get the sense that you usually get guidance from what you have called your Higher self level. 

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   Yes, it's a very similar kind of process.  Before, when i was addressing what you were saying, i was talking in context of a more universal and impersonal process in relation to others about guidance, though addressing what you had specifically said.  So much of what we experience in relation to guidance relates to Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like and/or the principle of specific requests of assistance. 

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  That's not exactly how i remember my position or perspective before.  I was more trying to point out in a more impersonal and universal manner, for the benefit of others (especially any potential newbies), of the necessity of asking more specifically for the help and assistance of only those most intune with the Light or PUL.   

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  Some guidance comes from our own system of consciousness, our Disk, I/there, Higher self, Expanded Consciousness Essence or whatever you prefer to call it (i prefer the last label) and some comes from other systems of consciousness--other individuals.  Some people sometimes get "guidance" from what i think of as "imposters".  These imposters can and do give us accurate info about material reality.  It's possible that i received this information from a limited, imposter level, but since i was in good spirits and mind frame at the time, and since i'm more mature and balanced overall, it probably wasn't the case in this instance. 

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  In this particular case, it was probably from my own system of consciousness or "ECE" tapping into the collective data bank and attuning myself to her consciousness more specifically.  More in the "middle" so to speak.  What degree of "guidance" we attune to, depends on various factors.  Primarily it relates to our momentary states of feelings, our specific conscious and unconscious intents, and degree of balance and then our overall maturity levels.   

Our feeling states are a good clue to where we are at within any given moment in our attunement.  If we are feeling more positive and loving, and thinking more positive and loving, then if we are also connecting to guidance, then we will tend to reach further up, so to speak and often get more clear messages.  If there are blocks and if our feelings, thoughts, and intents are not as positive, this tends to connect to more limited levels of consciousness (whether within or without self).  However, one can also get very "clear" messages then, because it's the slower vibratory levels of consciousness which are in a sense "closer" to us inphysicals to begin with, and thus they are easier to perceive for most inphysicals.

  Sometimes when we are asking for and trying to attune to the most expanded levels of guidance, it can be harder to more consciously receive the info because the info and the sources are so expanded and fast vibratory in nature, and yet, we need to make the attempt and choose these, for these can help us even more than our own ECE's.  However, these often work WITH and through our own ECE's and connections to same, so that we can perceive them to some extent.

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  Like i said a few times before, i think you are a more mature consciousness and usually in touch with your Higher self when it comes to guidance.  Some, however are not.  Some connect to very limited and limiting energies indeed.  It would be helpful if more knew about the differences and the different levels and "types" of guidance.  Again, imposters can and will send some accurate info through.

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  I know you do Vicky--we have worked together in other lives and in other dimensions.  You are doing well on your path.  While i think trust and faith is very important, at the same time, i also think discernment and discrimination is also important. 

  I see this as a necessary balance of the Yin/Right brain (trust, being open and receptive, feeling/sensing, etc) and the Yang/Left brain side of us which relates to logic, interpreting, and the awareness of necessity of discernment and discrimination.  I've been involved with the New Age scene for quite awhile now, and one thing i've sensed again and again is that there is needed much more discernment and discrimination within these circles. 

  Again, before, i was less addressing just you and your experiences in a personal manner, but more speaking in a more universal and impersonal manner for the benefit of others in a more collective sense.  It's important that more people understand that guidance is not a black and white thing and that there are various shades of grey involved with the process.  Especially for those in less centered and less intune and joyful periods in their life, it's so important for them, if they are to seek guidance, to specifically ask for the help of the most spiritually helpful, Universally Loving, aware, etc. sources.  Those more centered and/or those more mature don't need to be as careful necessarily, because through their expanded vibratory rates they tend to automatically connect to more helpful and expanded levels of consciousness. 

  Here is a very good outer source talking about "guidance", different levels, etc from The Monroe Institute. 
http://www.monroeinstitute.org/resources/downloads/cat/explorer-series

Play #32, and especially "Ah So" (who comes in later), speaks very well on the whole nature of guidance and the importance of seeking for the highest when it comes to guidance, talks about the different levels, the reality of interfering levels, etc   Ah So strikes me as a very wise and aware consciousness (more so than many of the guidance entities that came through the Explorers), and much of what he talks about is similar to what i point out regarding these issues--though we use different words at times. 

  Please know, Vicky, that often when i talk to others here, i'm often addressing concepts with a larger audience in mind, and that i'm rather impersonal and universal in nature by tendency (as indicated by my heavy dose of Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces--Jupiter, Neptune, Solar, Uranus and Arcturus energies).  You are more personally oriented than i tend to be.  This difference can and has caused some misunderstandings between us.  My intent was to give clear, holistic and more universally applicable information regarding the nature of connecting with and receiving guidance. 

I was not trying to upset you, but i'm sorry that i did.  You seem to view us as antagonists now, because i disagreed with you on some things before.  I don't see or feel the same way about it.  A spiritual friend recently had a dream partially about me and i will just relate the part about me.  He saw others and me in a class room and i was "wrestling" with others, but he could tell i was doing so in a playful and positive manner.  I interpreted it as that i do challenge people, but usually do so with positive and well meaning intent.  My own guidance and experiences have challenged me in various ways.  Without challenge and stretching, we do not grow as much.

  We are all teachers and students to and with each other.  While i have come to understand that i came here to teach and retrieve, i'm also in the process of learning and i do learn from you and others around me sometimes as well.  I see us as co workers.  The most important thing about this journey, is growing in our living, awareness and expression of Love, but Love is not always fluffy and pink ribbons.  Those who are more mature and further along in their path, can handle more direct challenge, directness, etc.

  Related, is Ah So and Rosie's (ROMC/Rosalind A. McKnight) Guidance Team and their chiding of Bob Monroe and Rosie about their diets and health lifestyles.  Both Bob and Rosie were told that if they didn't shape up regarding these important facets of getting into greater attunement with guidance, that this Guidance team was going to stop working in that manner with Bob and Rosies.   Rosie, at least, took this more seriously and made some changes.  (Bob, like Edgar Cayce, seemed to have a real problem with discipline in this area, for some reason). 

This is what i call the "Tough Love" side of PUL/Love. Yet, positive intent was behind the challenge.  Bob and Rosie were more mature consciousnesses who could handle and potentially benefit from this more direct and challenging guidance. 

   

I'm speaking for the general, larger audience as well Justin when I say this...that I like most people understand things much more effectively when I'm personally engaged or affected by them.  So your dreams and insights are yours and will be difficult for you to make people see what you believe you've seen.  It's not so much about right and wrong or belief, but is more about personal experience. 

If we look at the concept of receiving guidance in a broader sense, it's really along the same lines as using our own best judgement.  Like you mentioned a mood you were in affecting you...it's like that for everyone.  If I'm in a great mood, everything affects me differently than when I'm in a bad mood. 

I believe how we each respond to our own inner/spiritual guidance is the same thing.  You take the viewpoint of putting the judgement on the guidance/information itself, as well as its source.  That's one way to look at it.  So too, another way to look at it is to put the judgement on the person's mood.  I think there's a lot to be said about our own filter of perception and how we believe we're perceiving what's really there, rather than realizing that we don't know for sure what's really there to perceive....all we know is our interpretation of what we believe we're perceiving.  There's no doubt about it, no one will receive a clear channel of guidance or information.  It's all always going to be bent a little according to our Interpreter.  There's nothing really wrong about that.  It's all part of the learning/growing process we go through being human beings. 

What Bruce teaches about Perceiver-Interpret is such great information not only for retrievals and perceiving "out there", but for everyday perception as well.

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I disagree.  Everything you think you know still falls within the realm of your own perception and interpretation.  In life.  In death.  You'll always be within the framework of your own awareness of perception and interpretation. 

I and others here who complained to you were only intolerant of your repeated preaching because it was as if you were trying to get the kind of responses you wanted.  I'm sure your true intent wasn't to try to get coddling, right?  I'm sure your true intent was to change the world from the sure-fate that you had foresaw coming if the world did not get a wakeup call soon, right?  So no, we weren't intolerant of your intentions, we were intolerant of your behavior.  There's a huge difference. 

You cannot really ask for understanding and compassion.  The true essence of those things must be experienced deep within a person and cannot be sought after or taught.  You can't shift awareness from connection to your true nature over to one of an intention for what you want for someone else to feel.  When you do that, you've shut down awareness to the connection to your true nature.  No matter how good your intentions are, you're not responsible or in charge of making others feel what you want them to feel.  For me, I think that's one of the hardest of life's lessons.  We can't "want" people to react and feel how we want them to.  That intention never has good results.  But the way you approached the woman, asking her about her obvious passion, playing the piano...that little act of grace and trust and openness had more of the true nature of your intent than anything else you could have said to her.  I'm sure you "taught" her something, "opened" something in her.  It will have some good affect on her, and not what you'd know or expect.  That, to me, is the true essence of faith and trust.  Being in the state of being of actually feeling those things is more powerful than intent.  But it's how we decide to act on it which really moves us, and others. 

I like that you took the risk of speaking to that stranger and asking her that personal question.  I actually had a somewhat similar experience.  I knew that a complete stranger was named Steve.  You know me, I just couldn't resist walking up to him to ask "Are you Steve?"  I know that was weird and silly, but the look on his face when he said yes was priceless. 

So it's not about the guy's name, or the fact that that woman can play the piano.  It's about perception.  It didn't matter what you (or I) perceived, but that we noticed it, acknowleged it, trusted it, and responded to it.  Those are the tools which teach us how to open and connect to our true essence.  I used to get so mad at having pointless psychic experiences.  I wanted BIG experiences. Then I realized that the experience itself wasn't what was important.  It was the opportunity to connect with my spiritual being, that bigger "me" who is there guiding me, trying to get through to me.  I realized that the things I thought I should be learning weren't as important as the lessons I needed to learn that I wasn't aware of.  I finally realized there was purpose in the experiences I was having.  My Guidance knows what it's doing, and to get through to me it ends up finding stupid little pointless psychic experiences in my life to make me get that wakup call and go "Oh yeah, there's this connection I have to a greater part of myself that I'm hardly ever aware of.  This is an opportunity for me to be and feel connected."  I still have to remind myself to stop analyzing, stop asking why, stop wondering what the purpose is.  I have to remind myself to live in the moment, be conscious in the moment.  Every moment is an opportunity for consciousness.

Justin, you always compliment me by saying how advanced I am.  But I don't see me that way.  I see the potential in me for learning, but I learn in baby steps.  The way I've learned to open to my Guidance has been huge for me.  I feel passionate about passing along what I've learned.  Even my little mundane psychic experiences teach me a lot.  I'm no longer griping about the fact that I'm not getting world-changing psychic experiences.  I'm just thankful that I'm recognizing and feeling the spiritual connection to a greater part of my being.  It's why I like to talk about this kind of stuff.  It makes sense to me.  It's stuff I can actually relate to. 

Hi Bardo,

Yep I agree!

Hi Matthew,

I'm slowly learning that too and have to remind myself to feel it, and remind myself what it is when I do feel it.  I like how some put it, calling it a state of being the observer or witness.  It really does change one's perspective of life's situations and events and how we feel affected by them and how we feel we want to respond.  Yes, not at all about losing one's sense of who they are, but just shifting your sense of awareness.

Anyone can connect to their higher self, mature or not, experienced or not.  Your definition of what that kind of connection means is obviously different from mine. 

I know you weren't trying to flatter me.  And no forgiveness is truly necessary.  You express your thoughts, and I express mine.  There's no true need for forgiveness.  If you feel apologetic to me, it's more about how you were affected by what you said than how I feel.  I don't need an apology because it doesn't change anything.  You and I still see things how we each see them. 

But there's no need to keep going over these definitions of things.  I simply do not have the same beliefs of "Source" and "oneness" that you have, don't have the same definitions of those things, and therefore you're going to think your right and I'm going to think I'm right.  The only true "right" there is is that we each have the glory of being able to have our own truth as we know it.