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Apr 10th, 2012 at 5:51pm
 
  Becky had this dream a couple of days ago.  I can't remember all the details, so i asked her to write it down when she gets the chance, and i will update the thread when she does. 

  The odd thing about her dream is that i knew, before she told me, that she had had a dream about the Reptilian E.T. group.  I cannot explain how or why i knew, but i knew.  Anyways, in the dream, she was wary and on guard because she knew this E.T. group was becoming more directly involved with the world.  She specifically saw and knew that in 2013 they would become more active. 

  In the dream, some Reptilians were cloaking themselves as humans, and they would slip up unoticed behind humans more aware and sensitive, and silently and casually slit their throats. 

Becky had a crossbow and some sort of lazer type weapon, and she knew she had to be constantly on watch in order for the same thing she was observing happening to others, didn't happen to her. 

  I pointed out the symbolism of her "weapons", a crossbow and a powerful lazer.  I pointed out that crossbow is an obvious reference to her knowledge and use of Christ in her life, and the lazer refers to concentrated, focused, low entropy "Light" (symbol of spiritual attunement and discernment).  These are her main weapons in this struggle and she has to hold fast to these in order to not get get deceived or manipulated by this group. 

  Them slitting the throats of other humans more aware and sensitive than the average, indicates them effectively shutting down the communication and awareness of others who could make a difference and speak out against them.  Apparently, it's not all that hard for them to do this with most humans, even the more sensitive and aware ones.

  Re: 2013 and them becoming more active and influential in this world then, i have not completely figured it out.  However, it could relate to possible war between Israel and the U.S. against Iran and other countries.  Perhaps this E.T. group want this conflict to happen and are pushing strongly for it? 

Also, it could be a reference to certain strong outer events happening.  If civilization does start to collapse in 2013, then more people will become uncentered and stressed out.  When people become uncentered and stressed out, they are easier to influence in negative, limiting ways.  Her dream message could be saying that the Reptilian E.T. group will try to use this to their advantage in creating a world and culture that they want to see unfold--one full of strife, selfishness, and spiritual stuckness. 

   We saw the movie, the "Hunger Games", and after the movie, i told Becky, "This is the kind of world and humanity that they want to see unfold. A barbaric and cruel world of human against human." 

  Perhaps related to this, i read Kay Wilson's free book recently, and she had had some experiences with the Reptilian like groups, and they told her that they want to transform humanity to become like them.  They told her that they would prefer us to go along willingly, but that they were quite willing to force and coerce us if necessary. 

  I don't know what to do--how can one help change something that most others don't even want to consider to begin with?   Does talking about these messages even matter or make any difference?   I feel so utterly ineffectual.  Time and time again, we are asked, "please help humanity, here is more information" but no one wants this help. 

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Reply #1 - Apr 11th, 2012 at 11:09am
 
In Tolkien's universe, where the Lord of the Rings take place, there was this great conflict. Sauron was going to destroy the world as people knew it, he would remove all that is good and replace it with the corruption he seeks. Eru Ilúvatar (the Creator) knew all this, yet he did not directly interfere. Why? He saw the possibility, the opportunity, that the world would be shaped anew, by the coming struggle. If the good of Men would prevail; a new age of peace and prosperity (evolution) would come forth. And so he wisely judged that all evil would unknowingly create the conditions for both their own destruction and the strengthening of goodness. It was the trial of mankind, a trail of the collective free will of all humanity. Though to make things fair (otherwise the odds would be impossible), Manwë (responsible for 'Earth', servant of Ilúvatar) sent to Middle-Earth the Istari to assist in the coming struggle. The Istari (wizards), were powerful beings from Valinor (the "non-physical" counterpart) with the single mission of inspiring hope and sharing in the great wisdom to the Men of Middle-Earth, the were not to directly interfere, but lead the Men to their own destiny.

If what you say is true, or likely, it may be that what is written above is a metaphor for the unseen bigger picture of things. And maybe not, through centuries it has been prophesied a countless of times that something like this would happen, but to no avail. I bet many of them had similar experiences as you. Maybe some of what you experience is only for your own sake (growth), while you are led to believe it is for the sake of others? I can imagine a test like that.
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Reply #2 - Apr 11th, 2012 at 4:52pm
 
  I doubt it's just a test for self.  Others besides my wife and i have received messages similar to this.  Recoverer has, Rosalind A. McKnight did, Edgar Cayce's guidance briefly touched on it, Bob Monroe briefly touched on it, Courtney Brown Phd went into a lot of depth about it, and others. 

  This is being allowed by the Higher ups and the Planning Intelligence, because 1. they have to respect freewill to a certain extent (it's the nature of the system), and 2. because it is a test (and karma) for humanity, which if handled well will bring great growth and inner strength. 

  However, crisis is very much a potential.  Bob Monroe was told this himself, that this cycle was one of unusual degree of potential for growth, but also one of great potential for real crisis. 

  If those humans, who are more aware and in communication with the higher ups, do not do their part and try to inform others about this issue, then it's possible that the Reptilian E.T. group will get what they covet.   This is why Becky and i receive messages about this, and relay them to forums like these, because i deeply care about the future of humanity.  I'm not particularly fond of being a messenger of info like this. Who wants to talk about things that self knows ahead of time that others will scoff at, belittle, or think self is imbalanced for?  It would be far easier for my personality to remain silent, just "get along", and be, believe, and talk like most people. 

  I really, really, really wish though, that we had more help in this--help from those like Bruce Moen and Tom Campbell--people that others will take more seriously than folks like myself.  I do not have their "clout" and influence.  I will not until some years from now when i will be able to materially demonstrate in unmistakable ways, clear attunement to PUL.  But now is especially critical for waking others up about this issue.  I suppose all i can do, is to relay the messages we receive, try to stay positive minded, and hope for the best. 

  However, the silence and/or apathy of those who could really make a difference and inspire others to seek within for themselves about this issue, is particularly upsetting to observe, knowing what we know.  If these cannot be reached, then who can be? 

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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 1:50pm
 
Regarding some of the things Kay Wilson wrote, I cited the below in one of my books. It is from this chapter.

http://nondualityisdualistic.com/a-night-in-heaven/chapter-15/

"Kay Wilson is another person I find to be credible, and she speaks of her experiences with Reptilian-like beings at her site www.alienjigsaw.com and in her books I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember (available for free at her site) and The Alien Jigsaw. A lot the information she provides isn’t based on hypnotic regression (as is true with some alien abductees). Rather, Kay has had numerous lucid dreams where she received information, often in a symbolic way. Going by what I have read, she hasn’t figured out what all of the information she received means, hence the title Alien Jigsaw. However, enough of what she shares shows that on some occasions she has been in contact with Reptilian-like beings. She has also been in contact with beings she refers to as Super Conscious Beings and they seem to be beings of love and light. On one occasion she experienced as follows (from page 221 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember):

In July of 1997, I had another contact involving Super Conscious Beings. I was shown past deaths and suffering of family members and some of my pets. I was told that in the reliving of these deaths, I was being prepared for more death and more loss, and I was told that I had to accept this because this would be a part of my life. I then looked up into the sky and saw what would happen in our future:

A slit or hole will appear in the night sky and it will be surrounded by a fuzzy haze. Out of the slit will come two waves of hundreds of alien craft to attack us. The type of slit-like hole in space surrounded by the fuzzy haze will signify that these craft are from another dimension…

…They will attack Israel first, followed by Northern Europe and then the United States, but it will happen so quickly that it will not be possible to save Israel or Northern Europe. There will be pockets of survivors, but the countries will be devastated. Our military will engage them over the United States and we will destroy more of them than we thought possible. However, more people will die than survive.

From page 222 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember:

It would be another two years before I would have another vision. This vision occurred in April of 2004:

We will go to war with a humanoid alien race. It will be a worldwide war. Many people will be shipped out to fight in various parts of the world. The only way to know if loved ones are alive will be to see if their names are absent from the death lists.

I was shown that the aliens would have molted skin with rough textured complexions. They will be very aggressive toward humans. The war will seem hopeless, but we will have no other choice but to fight to defend our planet. Humans would be marginalized and will be nothing more than numbers…just bodies and fodder in the fight against these aliens.

From page 224 of I Forgot What I Wasn’t Supposed to Remember:

It was the despondency on her face (a female Grey alien with slightly different features than Greys usually have) and in her eyes that I cannot get out of my mind. The look in her eyes was as if she were a tortured soul crying out to save humanity. Crying for us, abductees, to save humanity."

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Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:24pm
 
Perhaps related, I had a dream last night that I have yet to interpret. There were teenagers who lived in a large room with a number of beds. They had sex with each other freely and also with adults who came to visit. A young man who has been involved with what they do tried to warn the teenagers that they should be weary of the older people they have sex with. Without knowing it they have sex with unfriendly aliens. The aliens ended up being the result of human technology. Then I saw a large ship floating through the air.

I'm not certain what this means, but it seems to me that young people are too permissive when it comes to sex. Too much of an "everything is okay" attitude. This causes them to be located in their lower chakras too much. The technology part might be about technology in the form of various forms of media promoting sex in a way that isn't balanced and healthy. Some sources say that Reptilians use things such as porn to lower the energy levels of this World.

So when Justin speaks about what people can do, perhaps one thing they can do is stop being "SLAVES" to the various devices that cause their energy levels to go down. Another example is greed-based produced food that has chemicals that effect energy levels in a negative way.

Regarding how I interpreted the symbols my dream included, I've found that it becomes possible to receive more information through dreams if you have some flexibility with how information is presented. If one insists that dream creators be very linear, one limits how the dream creators can pass on information.

Some of the parts of the dream I described above let me know that it wasn't the result of the random meanderings of my sub-conscious mind. For example, the ship image was presented to me in a way where I knew that a conscious being was showing it to me. 
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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 2:55pm
 
Thanks for the further information.  Talking about the future is tricky because of the unpredictable nature of same.  However, the probabilities that Becky and i have been given glimpses of, parallel what Rosalind A. McKnight received in her guidance sessions--that it will be some time, generations yet, before a full scale attack will happen. 

  There are many E.T. groups which are spiritually attuned, aware, and also technologically advanced, which are keeping an eye on the Reptilian group, and making sure they don't attack before we are ready for it.  It's like there is an understanding between them.  "You are not allowed to directly attack until the humans can effectively fight against you.  If you attack before then, there will be severe consequences."   The Reptilians experience fear, they are not stupid and will not bring that upon themselves. 

    Becky had two separate dreams, spaced apart with considerable time, but which were connected and in both dreams, she was in the same future body.  In that future time, there was the full on war going on between us and the hindering, negative intentioned group.  Even then, it was like we were given a heads up by the spiritually mature E.T. groups, for she saw herself and other humans in various kinds of training--especially psychic, communication, and manipulation of matter.  There were many E.T. groups involved with humanity at the time.

   I think sometimes people receive info in symbolic form, and they interpret it too literally.  In a very real sense, we are being attacked now, and the "war" is very real, but the war is going on energetically and spiritually.  It's a war of influencing perception, belief systems, and influencing human decisions, feelings, and actions. 

  What Kay Wilson may have been shown, is the Reptilians instigating and influencing humans to go to war with each other, rather than them directly attacking us themselves.  There are some sources which state that there are deals and communications between the Reptilians and aspects of the shadow U.S. government, for example.  These deals and communications are based on certain humans wanting certain technology and  information, for themselves.   In turn, they promise cooperation, E.T. secrecy/cover up, and favors for the Reptilians.

  If our own government, or rather shadow elements of same, would commit acts and atrocities like 9/11 on it's own civilians for material gain, pushing for war to make money and grab resources, etc, then why wouldn't they sell out their fellow humans to a group they are afraid of to begin with?

  My sense is that there is a lot more going on than meets the eye.  What need is there for the Reptilians to directly attack us, when they can effectively manipulate us and our decisions to that of destructive intent and action?   If many of the people in this world, who have the most material influence and power, are either directly or indirectly influenced by this group, then they can cause a lot of problems for humanity without having to risk their own necks (direct and severe consequences from the collective E.T. groups that look out for us).
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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 3:18pm
 
   Interesting dream Albert.  It does seem like the Reptilians are involved with influencing human choice and behavior in any way that tends to limit or weaken our consciousness.  Sex is definitely one of those areas.  Occasional sex between two people who are deeply connected and love each other on many levels, is one thing, but random, indiscriminate sex based more on lust, insecurity, etc. can really slow down our vibratory patterns and thus keep us stuck spiritually.

   One doesn't even have to necessarily partake in the act.  If you are going around, constantly lusting after and thinking about sex with others, this can also keep your vibratory levels slowed down and stuck.   Also, like you said, porn and masturbation is another way.

  It's like, to become a more pure channel of Light in this world, you really have to break free of so many earthly physical and emotional attachments.  It really takes an intense dedication of self to a greater cause, and constant purification of self.

  This is the meaning, i think, behind the teaching, "Be in the world, but not OF it."   We are constantly bombarded with limiting and slow vibratory patterns when we are involved with this world in a direct way, and it's like we have to regenerate and transmute the world within us, in order to become more free and aware.   Knowing how difficult this process is for self (& others), is one of the reasons why i question the claims of so many self or other proclaimed "enlightened" teachers.
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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 3:42pm
 
Justin:

When it comes to Kay Wilson, I have both of her books and it seems to me that she was told that Alien invasion is a possibility during her lifetime.  Mark Aubrey seems to suggest the same even though he was told that friendly aliens are watching the unfriendly aliens.

When it comes to information I received, if I consider it literally, invasions could happen during my lifetime.

There are people who have had dreams of invasions happening during their lifetime.

For me, what Rosalind Mcknight wrote isn't enough to cancel out what I said above.

Could Becky's future life mean a later part of this life? Could it be another stage of her life rather than another life?


Here are a couple of links where people speak of dreams where an alien invasion takes place.

http://www.greatdreams.com/alien.htm

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1454703/pg1 ;
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Reply #8 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 7:30pm
 
  Hi Albert,

Re: Kay Wilson and Mark Aubrey--i can't say how accurate their information is, and how "high level" they are.  It feels like there is truth in their works, but particularly in Kay's case, the information is all over the place, kind of dis jointed, and there are a lot of gaps.  Plus, i haven't met them in person, and haven't been able to tune more fully into them. 

   Rosalind's information and work, feels particularly high level to me--i'm not saying it's infallible, but Cosmic Journey's is one of the most expanded and truth ringing works i have yet to come across.  Plus, i met Rosie in person a couple of times, and was able to tune into her and she felt like a rather mature and wise person. A lot of her guidance sessions involved specific purification and expanding practices prior to her receiving information or having certain experiences.  It's like her guidance took special care, to make sure the info would come through as clear as possible.  She was even told to fast at one point.  They put her through the holistic ringer of speeding up her vibratory rates, balancing her energies, etc. and she was a very willing and cooperative student for the most part.

  Re: Beckys' other dreams--i'm not sure.  In the dreams, she saw her body, and she looked rather different than she does now.  She was shorter, more slender, had darker hair and had blue eyes instead of brown like she does now.   She also knew that it was in the future, well after the bulk of the Earth changes.  Things were rather different on many levels.  For one, there was constant contact and communication, and public interaction with many different E.T. groups, but there was a lot less people.  It was like Earth was one big melting pot, or sort of a "Cosmic America" at this point.   However, she did nto receive a specific year, so we don't know how exactly far in the future it was. 

  Our technology was much more advanced, we had flying ships like E.T.'s had.  We were much more involved with space and space exploration at this point.  Again, things seemed further in the future. 

  But, beyond all this, i just know on a very deep, intuitive knowing level, that the collective Light attuned E.T. groups, and the Co Creator Beings, will not allow direct attack anytime soon.  It would simply be a massacre plain and simple.  There is nothing that we, as humans, could do to stop or effectively counter balance such a direct attack.   Our technology, though more advanced than the public is aware, is still not enough to fight against the sheer technology and numbers of the Reptilians.  We would be easily and totally wiped out. 

  Surely, one is under estimating those Light attuned collective E.T. groups, the Co-Creator Beings, and other very powerful Consciousnesses, and over estimating the Reptilians to think that they cannot be stopped or halted till the proper time.   The former respect freewill up to a point, but they will not allow genocide of an entire planet!

  Perhaps the Reptilians focus on sending certain thoughts and information to sensitives, such as imminent invasion, to increase fear levels? 

  To think that sending/feeling Love towards an invading Reptilian who is in physical form, will somehow repel them, is very naive.  It would no more repel them then feeling Love towards a fellow human who is intent on murdering and/or torturing others (a serial killer for instance).  Physicality, being in a body, has an insulating affect on energetics like that.   Yes, if a Reptilian was visiting one nonphysically, then feeling Love could and probably would repel them on that nonphysical level.

  So, what could we humans do in such a scenario?  Not much but hide.  How effective would be trying to hide when a number of people are implanted, and they are both rather psychic and have advanced technology?  In other words, they probably could find most people with ease. 

  Again, it feels like certain messages are meant to be taken more symbolically rather than so literally.  Becky's recent dream could be taken literally in certain ways, and yet, to me, it's clear that it contains definite symbolic representation.   Reptilians will not be literally slitting people's throats in the near future. 

  Do i know for 100 percent certain that there will be no direct invasions in the near future?  No, i do not.  But if i was a betting man, i would place bets on direct attack/invasion happening at least a few hundred years from now.  It just intuitively feels a lot more accurate.
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Reply #9 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 7:56pm
 
Maybe it's a matter of not getting to the point where we aren't worth protecting.
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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 10:07pm
 
  If that is the case, and we are or become not worth helping, then what point is there in trying to help and raise awareness?   If the Creative Forces don't care enough to intervene during times of extremity, then why should we? 

   My feeling is that we are quite loved, and that there are high expectations and hopes for us and that we are protected and will continue to be.  We will not be judged solely by a few bad apples who lead us into wars and materialism out of their sickness and greed for more power and influence. 

We will be going through challenges, the "Earth changes", but that is not due to the Reptilians--it's part of the Divine plan to help get humanity on the right paths again--more in touch with and respectful of the Earth, more concerned about and cooperative with each other.
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