Just Me wrote on Apr 8^th, 2012 at 10:27pm:


Mjd, I read and take in EVERYTHING everyone writes on here, sorry if it looks if I have ignored yot but I havent. If you look at most of my threads I write a post thanking everyone as I access this website on a phone the majority of the time and it is a struggle to reply to a lot of comments, low and behold even one.

I believe that Jdee is asking questions because she "is" willing to consider new viewpoints. However, sometimes it takes time to overcome a way of thinking that is troublesome.

recoverer wrote on Apr 9^th, 2012 at 12:40pm:


EXACTLY this

MJD:

It seems to me that Jdee has been sharing her inner dialogue with us. Sometimes inner dialogue takes place in way that is different than how forum conversations take place.

I believe it is good that Jdee has shared some of the things that cause her to wonder if hell exists, because when she did so she shared some of the specific things that have troubled her. A big part of overcoming thought patterns that trouble us is bringing them out in the open so they can be examined. A person needs to do so in a way that feels right for he or she.

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Hi Jdee,

Then, I extend my apologies. I did not realize you were so young and it probably does explain why you seem unwilling or unable to receive information that doesn't fit into your world view. I am sincerely sorry if I offended you.

The point I was trying to make is that it's a bit frustrating when someone (not just you, people, in general) asks a question, people take the time to reply and it doesn't seem to have any impact. Most information (in life) probably should be filtered out, but sometimes your questions give the impression you just want a different answer than you've already received.

Remember, I told you that I grew up Catholic? In fact, I was ex-communicated from the Catholic church because I spoke up about my abuse. I went to Catholic schools all the way through college (Kindergarten + 16 years of unadulterated brainwashing). I completely empathize and sympathize with how and why you have these fears. I am not discounting your fears and anxieties and without seeing you in person, I suspect there is nothing wrong with you other than the indoctrination of Catholicism. Have you ever checked out FactNet?

Jdee, you can ask a million questions, but until you are ready to release your fears and accept that it does not have to be that way, it will continue to control you. I am not just saying that as an ex-Catholic, but a person diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I understand the unrelenting stress of constant fear and NOTHING helped until I took back my power and accepted that I could live the rest of my life afraid of my own shadow or do something different so I wouldn't be. For me, I had no choice. I was thrown out of the church for speaking up about my abuse and I floundered to other churches trying to find someone with the "right" answer. Guess what? As cliche' as it sounds, the answer was inside me. No book, person, church, religion, doctrine, ritual, etc. had the perfectly right answer. I simply had to learn the right answer is whatever resonates in my life and does not harm anyone else. My "right" may not be your "right" or DocM's "right" or Recoverer's "right" and that's okay. It ONLY has to be right for you and you will know when that happens.

I am not trying to be mean or dismissive. I want you to trust your own inner voice and follow where you are lead. Your own subconscious will never lead you astray and all the answers you seek will come at the right time when you are ready (just as they do for all of us). Open your heart, open your mind, open to PUL and prepare yourself. As the Desiderata tells us "The Universe is unfolding exactly as it should."

Kind regards,
mj

I have mentioned more than once that I felt Jdee is suffering from anxiety and fear which goes beyond fear of death. In my experience these fears find a way to express themselves, both physical and emotional, and are not responsive to too much intellectual reasoning. He has acknowledged as much in past posts. Many long-time respondents on this board have spent many long posts trying to work with Jdee on his fears. Much attention has been paid. Jdee, has anything that any of us on this board said been of use to you in your search for peace?

Bardo wrote on Apr 10^th, 2012 at 10:00am:


Bardo, one of the things this board has given me is knowledge of George Anderson. The medium who is a practising Catholic.

His book We Dont Die helped me somewhat.

Hi Jdee,

Your posts really tug at my heart strings... to be so young and have so much fear to cope with.  From reading your posts, I also think deep down inside you are very strong and courageous.

The only antidote to fear is courage. I know it's easier said than done, but each time you are confronted with a fear try your best to pinpoint the fear, muster up your courage to accept the worst and then let it go.  The more you face your fears the easier it will be to overcome them.  If you do this, one day you will have the most wonderful realization of what you've accomplished... emotional freedom that will give you an amazing sense of well-being. 

Kathy