Lights of Love wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:28pm:Oliver, the Bible outlines the history of people. Except for traditions, culture, etc. people thousands of years ago are not much different than people in today's world. Don't you watch the news?
Reading sources such as the website you linked to is just plain unreliable. If you are truly interested in the Bible pm Don (Berserk2) as he has dedicated his life to Bible studies and has far more credentials than anyone who would publish a website such as the one in that link.
The Bible clearly states that these deeds in the Bible have been done by God, not by the people.
The web source may be unreliable, but you can look it up in any common Bible version. Is the Bible then also unreliable? Would it help if I give you Bible quotations? If it would help the case, I can give you some.
How about this for a starter:
NKJV Dt 32:42 Quote:"I will make My arrows drunk with blood,
And My sword shall devour flesh,
With the blood of the slain and the captives,
From the heads of the leaders of the enemy."
The problem here is: What sort of God was that who did all these things that are described in the Bible OT? Certainly not the PUL God that we believe in now.
Did the people in those times then only "think" it was God who did that, when in fact it was Satan?
Or did the people just ascribe to God all those deeds where those deeds were either done by people or by natural forces?
Is and was this God of the OT the one and same God of the NT, the God of Jesus?
If these narrative stories of the OT are to be taken literally, which I guess they are, then this would indicate a very cruel God, not an all-loving God at all.
Btw, Don backed out of those type of questions from me in another thread already, and why PM when it can be openly discussed in the forum, since it is of wider interest to many here?
And I don't care about credentials, I care about answers. If an uneducated beggar in the streets can give me a satisfying answer, I regard him higher than a professor of religious studies who can't.
So here is the challenge, don't back out, answer in your own words - or admit defeat in the debate, as in good old theological tradition.