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Reply #30 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:50am
 
Hi Lucy and Bets,

Glad you both have joined in the conversation!

I think it's really just a matter of semantics.  We all use different words to describe basically the same thing that infers the same or similar meaning.  Force field, light, energy, inner vision, inner being, etc. are all metaphors that help us to communicate our experiences to each other. 

They're also tools that help us focus our conscious intent.  In the prayer group I participate in I've said things like, "I'm sending or surrounding a person with love, light and healing energy." as a way to communicate my intent of a loving, caring action I'm taking to try to help another.  I don't think we need to get hung up on semantics or the metaphors we use, especially if they're helpful to us on an individual basis.

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Reply #31 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:38am
 
Kathy, I agree.  The semantics part gets in the way sometimes.  It can even mess me up to myself when I'm trying to concentrate, meditate, pray, set intention...then I just remind myself that it's the feeling that matters, not the perfect wording.

A cute/funny story...My daughter can sometimes get so P.O'd at something and can rub everyone the wrong way.  She's a Leo  Wink  And sometimes I literally can't be near her nor want to be in the same room with her.  I once had to literally tell her, "I'm sorry but I can't be around you right now,  not until your energy changes.  Once you get through whatever it is you're dealing with inside, then come back and we'll talk."  She replied that her energy was just fine, and she was in a great mood.  I told her that that's not what I was talking about.  She didn't understand, and I tried to explain it but I really wasn't sure how to do that.  I told her, "The energy I'm talking about is the thing that makes you feel what you're feeling, and it affects your mood, thinking, feelings, decisions, attitude, your choice of words, what you feel is most important at the moment, and it can make you feel like you always feel this way and always will.  It's the thing inside that controls the state of being you're in at the moment, but the kind that you're in right now isn't your normal, basic state, it's just something you're feeling at the moment."  It was the best I could do.  She came back later, perkier, and announced her energy was better.  I told her, "No, it's not."  I could tell she really wasn't sure how to figure it out, and all I could tell her was that when her energy changes, she'll know it.   She then spent a couple hours in her room, not because I sent her there but by her own choice to really just be alone with herself and think.  Finally later, she came to me and said, "Mom, I know what you mean now.  I felt so bad at what you were telling me because I could tell you didn't want me to be near you, but being alone the past couple hours made me change how I feel.  Now I totally feel different inside.  Now I can see that I didn't like who I was acting like before, but while I was acting that way I thought it was ok.  But that's not who I really am.  I'm sorry I was in such a bad mood and mean to everyone ealier."  I could tell her whole being was different, softer, calm, and her normal baseline self.  And I know, too, that we all have a range of our energy-being, but I needed my daughter to learn how to recognize when her behavior was out of line and to manage it herself. 

She had finally learned what I meant by her energy state of being and how it affects everything about a person at the moment.  It was the best lesson I could give her to literally teach and show her what I meant.  Just making her go to her room or telling her to knock it off and be nice wouldn't have taught her anything.
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Reply #32 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
Don, every time I read your account of your powerful and very dramatic experience it sends chills down my back.  I love hearing about people's life changing events.  I've had a few of my own.  Like yours, they were extremely powerful and dramatic experiences that sent me reeling in a life changing direction, even though in content they were different from yours. 

This is probably at least one of the experiences you're trying to distinguish between inner depth experiences and Spiritual ascent you mentioned previously.  I'd like to know a lot more about the Catholic mystical tradition and hope you will be able to find the time to go into more detail.

Based on your description of Spiritual ascent, that's probably where I'd categorize your experience and some of mine, if they truly can be classified.  Similar to some of my experiences, it was something that, 1) had an effect on your physical state of being in a very profound way. 2) You were "ripe" for this significant, life changing direction. 3)  The "cause" came from something perceived as outside of you as though the Holy Spirit descended upon you. 4) You were essentially "taken" to your inner depth of being, God within.  5) You recognized your "smallness" in a very humbling and awesome way.  There may be other similarities.  This is all I can think of at the moment, plus even though I'd love to sit here and ponder this longer, I need to get my attention focused elsewhere. 

Thanks for bringing this up!

Kathy
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Reply #33 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 10:41am
 
Hi Vicky,

I love that you take the time with your kids to really help them understand through their own experience. Your children are fortunate to have a mom who is not only willing, but capable.  So many kids don't have that advantage.  The environment a child grows up in really can make a difference in the adult they grow up to be.
 

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