What is your views on this?

And does is not prove the existance of satan?

jdee190 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:



Jdee. Read "Remarkable Healings" 1997 by Dr.S Modi M.D. It's a Hamptons Roads book, the same publishers that Moen uses. It's not a Christian book, more a new age book. Dr.Modi, a medical practitioner who specializes in psychiatry, uses hypnosis in her private practice to retrieve earthbound souls trapped in the patient, and also releasement into the light of demonic entities.

According to Dr.Modi these earthbounds and demonics, plus other types of spirits, were causing many physical and mental illnesses in her patients, reflecting back onto their families and friends. She also retrieved soul fragments that were lost to the patients during traumas in their childhood and later adult life. She says that the demonics capture many of these soul fragments and use them as a cord-link back to their original soul-owner. They use this link to create more problems for that person.

Dr.Modi also engages in past-life regression therapy as she finds it goes hand in hand with her retrieval work. This is a groundbreaking book that surpasses any book on retrieval work anywhere and by anyone. I was totally blown away by the information in this book. All the information in this book is taken from her patients case files. The book is 631 pages long. Here's a snippet from the end.

  "Over the years, I worked with different patients coming from different cultures, religious beliefs, and educational backgrounds. Under hypnosis, amazingly, most of them gave a similar description of the universe, its structure, and the beings who inhabit it.

  My patients, under hypnosis, say that there is a huge light. In this light resides a supreme being they call "God." They describe this supreme being as a mountain of light, a pyramid of light or an ocean of light and love. They call him "the one," "the all," "the whole," "the God," "all there is," etc.

  Next to this supreme being there are other large souls whom they call Godheads, masters, or oversouls. They recognize these beings as religious figures in different religions around the world. Next to them are angels and other beings of the light. Patients say that from God descend the Godheads, also called masters or oversouls. and from them, humans and all other souls descend. The Godheads, angels, and beings of other worlds also reside all around God.

My patients describe seeing many silver cords coming out of God and going to humans and all other beings throughout the creation through the Godheads. Patients describe God as a powerhouse to whom all living beings in the whole creation are connected with the silver cords.

  Hypnotized patients report that between lives, we humans also reside in the light, where we go through some type of learning and developmental process. In this we seem to be partially aware of who we are and what we are doing. We go through the cycle of birth, life, death, and back to the light(heaven)again and again to learn lessons and grow spiritually. toward our final aim to go back and reunite with the supreme being, God.

  Many of the patients, under hypnosis, also recall their creation and what happened in the light after they were created. They say there was a conflict and a being of the light left and took many light beings with it. According to my patients, these beings are really Satan and his demons, who are working on the earth opposite the purposes of the light. They thwart the light. To mu surprise, even demons recall and give similar information after their transformation into the light.

  Amazingly, my patients, regardless of whether they are religious, agnostic, or atheist, have repeatedly given similar accounts of the reality of the spiritual world as they see and remember it under hypnosis. I wondered if they recalling and describing the truth, or were they all suffering from the same delusion." ...'Remarkable Healings" by Dr.Modi.

What also blew me away was when the demons were going through the transformation to the light, many describe all the methods they use on us humans, and this is vast. They also say that they have many humans, physical and earthbound, in their employ.

They also explain the reason why this powerful light being left the light, took a lot of angels with him, tricked a lot into joining him with false promises of power, etc. When the demons reported seeing the retrieval angels that came for them, they recognized some of the angels and even had names for these angelic helpers.      

 

    

Hi Albert

I actually agree with you on this.

This is kind of a tangent, but I think before we can understand some of this stuff, we first need to understand how the mind works, and that is indeed a work in progress!

Some of this has to do with what ideas we accept as being underlying truths.

Before Newton came up with the idea of gravity, apples still fell to the earth. Did people ask WHY they fell instead of floating? I don't know. But gravity did not exist before Newton invented it. That is because gravity is an idea that explains something. True, apples fell down before Newton, but gravity did not exist before Newton.

I think you hae to understand what I just wrote before you can have a serious discussion about this other stuff. This tells you something important about how the mind works.

Supposedly Emily Rose was possessed by Lucifer, Judas Iscariot, Nero, Cain, Hitler and Fleischmann (a disgraced 16th century Franklin Priest).  I find this really hard to believe. Perhaps people are as off-base when they claim that a person is possessed by Satan.

If one wants to find out who a person is troubled by, perhaps it is best to not have pre-conceived ideas.

Thanks, is there also exorcisms in other religions? Such as Islam?

So these 'demons' or whatever possesses people on earth live? Are they Satans helpers to decieve people on earth so they become non christian and go to hell?

recoverer wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 6:26pm:



So what Jesus taught in the New Testament to his disciples and others about Satan and the Devil, even mentioning that he saw him(lucifer)fall from heaven like lightning, must be a load of bullshit according to you!

I have posted these two family exorcisms before:

(1) My Uncle George was a Pentecostal minister.  One day, he received a frantic call to deal with a possession case.  For some reason I don't recall, he had to take his wife (Ruth) and young son Eldon (age 3--now a psychiatrist) with him.  Aunt Ruth and my young sousin waited outside the lady's home in the car.  The moment George successfully completed her exorcism, little Eldon started to scream relentlessly and uncontrollably.  It seemed that the expelled entity was now trying to possess little4 Eldon.  Soon his eyes rolled up until only the whites were visible.  He was in a deep trance.  Young Eldon knew nothing about possession and exorcism.  Uncle George and Aunt Ruth fervently prayed for Eldon's deliverance, but this took a long time.  Finally, he was free: the screaming stopped and his eyeballs reappeared.  Eldon told me that all he can now recall of this incident is a vision of being safely cradled in the loving arms of Jesus. 

(2) When my brother Doug (now a doctor) was 16, he and I were watching Hockey Night in Canada and badgering our poor mother for more hotdogs and icecream.   Suddenly Doug seemed to drift into a trance.  He told me that God had given him the name and location of E, who was demon-possessed, and God expected Doug to perform the exorcism.  Doug had never talked liked this or performed an exorcism; so his message did not compute.  I jokingly said something like this: "OK, don't be late!"   He left quietly on what would be a 7 1/2 mile bus ride on a cold February night to a downtown coffee house in Winnipeg, Canada. 

When he arrived at the coffee house, nothing seemed unusual and he began to doubt his "message."  But that changed when a stranger walked up to him and said, oddly, "You're here on a special mission, aren't you?"  Shortly thereafter, E showed up outside with a gang of thugs who were challenging people to a fight who wanted to enter the coffee house.  Doug felt prompted to approach E and say, "E, God has shown me that you are possessed and has sent me to exorcise you."  This struck E and his gang as hilarious, and he challenged, "OK, bring it on!"  Now Doug had no idea what to do.  So he merely closed his eyes in prayer and lightly touched E on the forehead.  At this, E fell to the floor like a rock, and began writhing like a serpent.  After a couple of minutes of this, he became quiet amd meekly said, "Thank you!"  E's gang was so scared they converted to Christianity on the spot, but their conversions didn't seem to last. 

I met E but couldn't bring myself to ask him about his exorcism.  E later wrote a book on spirituality and became a Canadian media figure.  I could direct readers to seeing him perform on a website, but will instead protect his privacy.  My brother Doug (who will fly in from Colorado tomorrow to visit me) is now too frightened to even discuss this incident.