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Feb 8th, 2012 at 2:49pm
 
Hi all,

Today is my spouse's birthday (the first since my mother-in-law passed away last Fall). I made a memorial album for our family and placed it on the media center approximately four inches from the back edge. I went to the kitchen to answer the phone and when I returned the album was upside down UNDER the tv cords. It didn't break (the front is glass) and I don't understand how it had any room to turn upside down even if it did fall (which I'm sure it didn't).

In life, my MIL did not like me and rarely spoke to me. She avoided calling the house just to not have to sometimes making her husband call to get information or calling my spouse at work/on cell phone. However, if anyone in the family is "open" to the idea of an afterlife and afterlife connection, it's me. I never resented her for basically ignoring me throughout our relationship, but it did hurt quite a bit. I still acknowledged her and remembered her special days and allowed the children to visit anytime they wanted. I would never retaliate against someone's meanness (my point is I would still relay any message I received from her). I think she knows this (now, if not in life) and may be trying to get through.

I've been keeping a journal by the bed and asking her to let me know if she has something to say to me or anyone else in the family that I can pass on. So far, I haven't had any dreams or "waking" communications. Did she visit today to acknowledge the memorial album to say "Happy Birthday" or am I just looking for coincidences?

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Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2012 at 5:48pm
 
Hi mjd,

As you're probably aware, these experiences can only really be validated by the experiencer.

I can only offer my opinion and from what I have experienced this kind of thing does happen, even to people who aren't open to it, I wasn't before I had these things happen to me.

From what you have said I would say that the chances of the album moving 4 inches and then falling underneath the wires by itself landing upside down are close to zero. The only way that this can happen is if your stand is not level, if this was the case I'm sure the other things on the stand would have gone for a walk too.

Perhaps your MIL is trying to make amends with you now?

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Reply #2 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 10:24am
 
Hi Andy,

Thanks for your response. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

Well, the stand is level and nothing on it has moved in the time I've owned save some dust particles but they tend to like to go everywhere. (smile).

We went out to dinner last night and it was behind the cabinet again upon our return. This is a solid wood media stand so the chances of it falling because someone bumped it are practically nil. Besides, it had enough room to fall over without falling behind the cabinet. I picked it up again and placed it back on top.

Last night I had a dream that my mother-in-law called me to ask for ideas on what to get for her husband. I was polite and told her I would think of some ideas and email them to her (she didn't email, but my FIL does so she could get access to it). A few days later a large package arrived in the mail addressed to me. It was a wall stencil and included a printout of the email suggestions I sent her.


I thought that was strange (in the dream) because she rarely spoke to me in life. During our visits she would walk out the room if I tried to engage in small talk with her and it reached a point where nobody in his family speaks to me now. I recall feeling a bit confused by the gesture while I was dreaming, but accepted it at face value.

I've had a few discussions with other people in similar situations (mother-in-law disliked/hated them and passed away in 2011) and none of them seem to understand why I don't hate her or even dislike her. It has put a strain on my marriage because I choose not to go for visits (since nobody will speak to me except for his father making mean comments to me every now and again), but I don't see the value in "returning the favor" to to speak.

This morning I said aloud that I am open and receptive to hearing anything she wants to say (even if it's to tell me why she disliked me so much) and I'd be happy to have her help in healing our famil(ies), if possible. I am not sure if I'm being selfish in that I would prefer my marriage not to fall apart because my sister-in-law is carrying on the gossiping and animosity toward me. More than anything, though, I really would just like for all of us (me, my immediate family and my spouse's family) to just have some inner-peace about all this. Life is too short (relatively speaking) and way too much time has been wasted on nonsense.

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Reply #3 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:28am
 
Hi MJ,

I think you're doing the right things.  You're open to receiving, sending out the message/intent that you want contact/communication.  Then all you can do is just pay attention to anything new that comes into your awareness.  Noticing the details of things around you is one aspect, and there's also noticing your own energy and feelings and thoughts. 

I agree with Andy that only you can validate and trust your experience.  The album moving the way it did definitely sounds like a sign, especially if you trust your sense of logic about how it couldn't possibly have accidentally moved on its own. 

Sometimes we put more work into deducing whether something is possible or not, instead of allowing a sense of possibility open up inside of our belief system and identity.  It's kind of like love.  If you want to find and have love in your life, like an intimate relationship, then you have to have "room" for it inside you.  For a lot of us that means shifting something deep inside at the core which allows us to have that relationship when it happens to pop into our lives.  Otherwise, the possibility for the relationship could be right in front of us but we'd push it away because we're not ready to have it. 

I also think you're doing the right thing regarding your in-laws, and no it's not selfish to want peace in your marriage and your family.  I am assuming your hubby is on your side?  I hope so.  When I was married I had some similar issues with my in-laws.  They didn't ignore me, but they treated me badly if I didn't act like them and do and say and be what they wanted and expected me to be.  So we had a lot of that weirdness going on that no one wanted to really admit was going on.  Unfortunately my husband never took my side or stood up for me.  We're divorced.  When his father died I sent out the message that I was open for him to contact me if he wanted, even though we didn't like each other in life.  I did get something happen right then, but can't say for sure if it was about him or my intent.  Just then in the car, I heard a woman's voice speaking rapidly.  I couldn't understand a word she said, and thought my daughter in the back seat was playing something on her phone or Ipod or whatever.  She wasn't.  I asked the kids what that voice was, and they said they didn't hear a voice.  My daughter thought I was nuts.  My son was in the front seat and he said all he heard just then was a loud hissing sound coming from my side of the car, inside the car.  Neither I nor my daughter heard that.  My daughter said we were both nuts because she didn't hear anything at all!

I think whatever it was was directly related to my message and intention, although I have no idea what it meant or who the woman would have been.  I've never had any other sign coming from him, nor felt his presence or anything like that. 
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Reply #4 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:55am
 
Hi Vicky,

Thanks for your post. I've had enough "weird" experiences to know nothing is impossible so I don't really question the "possibility" of something happening. Given the circumstances of my childhood and the things I could see and hear that others couldn't probably led me to seeking my degree in Mathematics. I liked the idea of having a CONCRETE way to explain how something is derived. Wink

Unfortunately, my spouse is having a hard time right now. His sister has more influence than was ever shown earlier in the marriage and has been doing anything/everything possible to wedge between us. Until recently, they did not impact our marriage. Nonetheless, I am continuing to be responsible and receptive and loving toward him and the marriage (although, internally, I'm just exhausted from it all). It's been difficult, but I remind myself that I am the foundation of our family and my personal pain is far less important than the values and example I want to set for our children. Some days are harder than others, but I always try to find a way to pick myself up and stay strong and focused on "conscious awareness" of my responsibility. If I give up or give in or shut down I have, in effect, emotionally abandoned the two little people who depend on me to understand the world. I lived that childhood. As long as I have life in my body I will never, ever, put either of them through that.

Thanks for sharing your experience with your FIL and a possible visitation in the car. Wow. I am glad nobody has ever come to me in the car. I'm not that good a driver with no distractions. lol Seriously, though, I have heard that sometimes they have a difficult time getting through in a way we can understand and will keep trying until they can reach a frequency we can receive. I'm sure you know what I mean. Remember that movie "Oh, God" with George Burns? I still laugh when I think about his voice coming through the radio station. I am sure you aren't crazy and not worried about your daughter saying that. All kids think their parents are crazy. It's part of their job description (My little one told me it's her job to torment me Wink.

Thanks again for replying. It really does help me to know I'm not ready for a rubber room when others share their experiences with things to which most of the world doesn't seem willing to open themselves.

Kind regards,
mj

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Reply #5 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:24pm
 
I hear ya!  Growing up I was constantly told I was dreaming, imaginging, lying, etc.  No one believed all the weird stuff that happened to me.  My kids are teens so my daughter telling me I'm nuts is part of our playfulness together.  Actually, I hear I'm such a dork or a geek more than I'm nuts.   Smiley

About what I said about shifting inside you to make room for change...It doesn't have as much to do with believing or having had experiences, as it has to do with shifting your state of consciousness.  We tend to constantly ground ourselves, which means to keep our conscious state at a certain foundation or level where we feel most comfortable given our day-to-day existence.  This constant shift isn't something we feel or notice, it just happens.  I believe that this is why we can one moment see a ghost and think, "Oh my, I'm seeing a ghost!" and then the next moment it's "gone".  The ghost might not have literally gone anywhere.  You shifted states of consciousness without realizing nor intending to, and to your conscious awareness the ghost is the one who left, when it fact it was you. 

Even with strong belief in ghosts and strong desire to want to see them, we cannot help but make these transitions in consciousness.  So with the example of the experience with the album moving, you wondered if you were just making coincidences.  That kind of thinking denotes that you were unsure whether to fully accept that the album moved on its own or if that wasn't possible.  And it denotes that there is such a thing as coincidences. 

Throw out your assumption about coincidences and the general definition of what that means, and believe and trust that there are no coincidences, that everything in your conscious awareness happens because it's supposed to be there.  If you treat it as a sign from your mother in law, even you aren't certain and can't be certain if it really was, then you're at least taking a step in the right direction of allowing more experience to happen to you.  But if you get yourself stuck in trying to debunk whether it was possible for the album to move, when clearly it sounds like it wasn't possible for it to just happen on its own, then you're giving focus to the wrong thing. 

I'm not saying you're reacting wrong, I'm just showing the mistakes I've made and what has held me back for so long.  I'm contiually struggling with making progress to push myself out of just having strange experiences that I'm still not sure about, into having more definitive and helpful experiences that will actually propel my spiritual growth.  I think we have to work on it all the time.  For instance, since my dad's death I've had several visits and signs from him.  I truly believe this.  But for a while now I haven't been focused on that, and subsequently haven't felt any signs or contact from him.  A skeptic would say that that's because we experience what we want to believe.  I don't believe that.  I just think that it's a two-way street of communication.  Also, my dad could be trying to get my attention but if I'm not thinking about him or paying attention, then I'm missing out on those experiences. 

My advice is to send out another invitation for your mother in law to contact you.  In fact, ask her if she's the one who moved the album!  Then see what kind of experiences happens next that's out of the ordinary.  No matter how much experience and belief you already have, it always helps to have more validation. 

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Reply #6 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
Hi Vicky,

Ah, yes. I wasn't as brave as you obviously were. I never talked to my parents about my visions, premonitions or dreams. I kept a journal hidden in the deep section of a wall in an unfinished storage room where I wrote down that kind of stuff. I was already being abused by the time I started Kindergarten and knew my mother wasn't trustworthy (although, I didn't know that was the word for it at that time).

Imagine have a mother who is a therapist? I was told I was crazy and she KNEW because it was her job. I would calmly ask "What exactly is *crazy*?" which would send her into a violent rage. She even tried to have me committed a couple of times. The intake workers always ended up encouraging her to seek help because most parents would kill to have an honor roll, non-drinker, non-drug user, not sexually active child. <shrugs>

I can wait for the teenage years. I've already decided Wink that I'm going to move my children into my neighbor's house during those years. Ha Ha. We are older parents so they can already run rings around us. It's a joy, though. I am much more patient and laugh a lot more (like the time they wanted it to "snow" in the house and opened two bags of flour...of course, this was AFTER I just cleaned and mopped, never before, right? Wink I'm glad you can laugh with your kids. That's great.

Ah! I do understand what you're saying. I think I tend to think aloud about it being a coincidence but knowing it's not. My spouse is a non-believer and I told him his mom came to say "Happy Birthday" and he just rolled his eyes. He is used to me being this way though because I always have been (and, he's witnessed the disappearing scars and other things happening to me physically, not to mention all the foretelling dreams he knows about). Plus, I am more on the natural side of health care after being harmed by modern medicine. So, he's used to me using organic, natural and other "uncommon" ways of feeding and caring for the kids. I guess I'm just the "loony relative" everyone has. lol

I will continue to try to invite her to come if she chooses. I never had a discussion with her about religion (or much of anything else), but I suspect she was not a believer in this kind of thing. I am excited about the idea though because he told me she discussed seeing some friends on the other side when she was in Hospice. Fortunately, they were able to get her released and she was surrounded by family and friends when she passed at home. I'm not privy to any of those conversations, but I would not be surprised to learn she had many more sightings as she grew closer to the making her transition. I will work on remaining in the consciousness (you are right. It's so natural to just shift quickly) and keep at it. I really just want her to know that I do love her and wish only the best for her and the family. I'm happy she is no longer in pain. I'm sorry we weren't able to connect in this lifetime as I had hoped. I don't know if that's because I have always felt like an orphan in my own family or because I just want everyone to get along. Either way, it didn't happen while she was here. Maybe, she will be willing from the other side. I'll need you for backup through this. I've never had a full-fledged "visit" yet. Wink

Kind regards,
mj
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Reply #7 - Feb 9th, 2012 at 7:06pm
 
  Hi Mjd,

  I don't know what your experience means, but i just thought it funny and interesting that both of our spouses share the same b-day, Feb 8th. 

  Oh those stubborn Aquarian indicated types!   Wink
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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 10:01am
 
Hi there Justin aka Vasya,

How funny is that? If yours is anything like my Aquarian, I bet you are laughing most the time. Mine is a crack-up.

Tell her "Happy Belated Birthday!" for me, please.

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Reply #9 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 11:31am
 
Okay, I know this does not meet the level of interesting experience that you all have described to me, but this is unique for me and it comes as I am ramping up my meditation and mindfulness training. My full tube of toothpaste is missing! That may not sound strange, but it is. I used it yesterday morning and then went to work. I was the last to use it, and we all went away to work and school. Last night I could not find it....anywhere. Wife and kids never touched or saw it. Not in drawers, trash under anything, in anything. Not in the laundry, bathtub, shower, dresser...in short, the F'ing thing is gone. I distinctly remember putting the cap back on it and laying it on the counter (don't ask me why I remember doing that so clearly). This morning I put my kids on the hunt and they looked everywhere, in every room in the house.  Nothing so far.  Weird. If I had to pick an entity who would enjoy this kind of prank it would by my sister who passed two years ago. Its very much like her.
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Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 11:53am
 
Bardo wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 11:31am:
I distinctly remember putting the cap back on it and laying it on the counter (don't ask me why I remember doing that so clearly).


Hi Bardo,

I can help with some of your mystery, but I haven't a clue who took your toothpaste or why.   Smiley

Here's my take....The reason you remember your last experience with the toothpaste so clearly is because this is one way your nonphysical senses of perception work.  Because the incident of the missing toothpaste is so weird and has your attention, it caused you to intentionally or unintentionally send out the signal "This is weird.  I know it should be here.  What was my last experience using the toothpaste?"  Without even consciously thinking that, that's basically what's being sent out in your energy.  Your nonphysical senses of perception are immediately hot on the trail of answering that request, and immediately bring to your conscious mind the very strong and clear memory (sometimes even visually in your mind's eye) exactly answering your request.  The whole concept simply is that your focus of attention on the details of your last memory of the toothpaste is SO strong that it's clear as day in your memory now. 

Another thing, if this is a paranormal experience you can send out the message, "I want my toothpaste back.  I'll go do something else and when I come back it better be here."  Just to be playful.  It might turn up where you expect it, or it might turn up somewhere else. 

Anyway, Bardo, it's very strange to lose your toothpaste!!  If it wasn't a prank by your sister or someone else nonphysical, maybe you're going through some weird changes and creating poltergeist activity.    Smiley

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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:01pm
 
There are a couple of interviews that Bob Olson has that purport to help one learn to communicate with the other side better. One at the top of the page, and one with van Praagh further down. I'm not a van Praagh fan but he might say something that opens a door for you. or he might not.

http://www.afterlifetv.com/page/2/

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Vicky a dork might be um low on the totem pole, but I thought a geek was a good thing, a compliment. Nuts is universal.
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Lucy wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:01pm:
Vicky a dork might be um low on the totem pole, but I thought a geek was a good thing, a compliment. Nuts is universal.


Yeah I take it as a compliment.  I'm proud to be the big geek that I am.  Being dorky too, well I chalk it up to having a wide personality range.   Wink

ps--I like Van Praagh's demeanor, but I can't say that I've necessarily learned much from him.  I believe he's got real ability but it's frustrating to me when the big one's can't teach because it comes so natural to them.  I like John Edward and I can identify with him a lot and like how he teaches/explains how it works, in his books that is.  He's got a couple good ones out there I've read.
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Reply #13 - Feb 10th, 2012 at 3:06pm
 
  Will do, thanks Mj--and same to you and your partner.   Oh, she definitely cracks me up sometimes.  She is also one of my best inphysical teachers--helps me to grow via friction and challenge and vice versa no doubt. 

  We are very psychically connected, might as well have been born Twins, and that can be both very nice and also very challenging at other times--especially when one of us is off kilter. 

   Sounds like things might be tough for you, but in a different and more consistently tough way in your relationship.  But it's often the challenges and the testing stuff which helps us to grow the most spiritually.  Making peace with that awareness is really difficult, but very rewarding.

  I hope things work out for your highest good and deepest happiness.
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Bardo wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 11:31am:
Okay, I know this does not meet the level of interesting experience that you all have described to me, but this is unique for me and it comes as I am ramping up my meditation and mindfulness training. My full tube of toothpaste is missing! That may not sound strange, but it is. I used it yesterday morning and then went to work. I was the last to use it, and we all went away to work and school. Last night I could not find it....anywhere. Wife and kids never touched or saw it. Not in drawers, trash under anything, in anything. Not in the laundry, bathtub, shower, dresser...in short, the F'ing thing is gone. I distinctly remember putting the cap back on it and laying it on the counter (don't ask me why I remember doing that so clearly). This morning I put my kids on the hunt and they looked everywhere, in every room in the house.  Nothing so far.  Weird. If I had to pick an entity who would enjoy this kind of prank it would by my sister who passed two years ago. Its very much like her.


Hi Bardo,

Notwithstanding anything paranormal...I have a theory.

I am the oldest of four children and we all have the same first and middle initials. My mother ALWAYS called me by one of my siblings' or one of her siblings' names. One day I asked her why she couldn't remember my name since I was the firstborn. She replied "Having children makes your mind go bad." I thought she was kidding. However, now that I am a parent I can attest to the validity of that statement. Wink

Seriously, though, I agree with Vicky. Just ask for it back. If "someone" took it, they will most likely return it.

Good luck!
mj
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