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Bardo
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Re: Questions about belief systems
Reply #30 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 2:19pm
 
It amazes me how hard we work to create doubt in ourselves about what we innately know to be true.
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Reply #31 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 6:07pm
 
Bardo wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 2:19pm:
It amazes me how hard we work to create doubt in ourselves about what we innately know to be true.


Agreed there!

When you're in a negative state of mind it can be very hard to shake it off, I know this from experience and I struggle with this from time to time.

I'm not talking about afterlife matters with what I experience but it's the same thing overall.

Every person I have seen since researching afterlife stuff who has been opposing to it has clearly had problems with their state of mind, there's been a few on this board since I've been here and also a lot more when I have looked back through the posts before I was here.

There's also the people who have made their mind up already and only oppose it because it offends their currently held beliefs. I've not come across anyone like this on this board so far.

If you want to look at investigating the afterlife or anything else for that matter then you should leave your opinions and negativity at the door before you walk through it. It's the only way that you can be truly objective, above all this is for your own good than anything else.

P.S. If you want to say that NDE's, "ghosts" etc. are not evidence of the afterlife then it would be very helpful to your cause and credibility if you tell us what they really are rather than saying what they aren't. So far no one has been able to do this. 

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Reply #32 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 9:14pm
 
And, I propose there is another group of people. People whose minds simply can't allow them to face the reality of a situation so they hold onto any/all methods by which to avoid knowing the truth of things around them.

As a former child abuse advocate I have seen it time and time and time again. Parents and other adults sometimes absolutely refuse to believe the truth of the situation because they are incapable or unwilling to handle it. The most heartbreaking discussion I ever had was with a mother of a six year old girl who had been violated in the most awful way. Her mother could not stop focusing on her own heartache and confusion to even consider the possibility that her precious, defenseless child needed her love and support. I witnessed this exchange for months and this woman simply did not have anything to give her child who needed a loving, supportive and understanding mother more than anything in that moment. Not in that case, but I have seen mothers deny the truth even in the face of inrefutable physical evidence. The human brain is designed to protect and will go to great measures to do so at almost any cost.

It's disheartening and unfair to give the impression of superiority simply because other people have not reached the same level of understanding. Is it not true that everyone is our teacher and everyone is our student? (I think that's a Chinese proverb, but I'm tired so I could be mistaken).

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mj
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Re: Questions about belief systems
Reply #33 - Jan 31st, 2012 at 2:00am
 
I and others find it unsurprising that we don't have "scientific" proof of an afterlife or the survival of consciousness beyond the survival of the body.  After all, "science" only concerns itself with the physical.  If your entire universe is contained within a small box, there is no way you can prove the existence of the much larger box outside your small box since only things within your small box exist and are valid as far as you are concerned.  Tom Campbell said it much more eloquently in "My Big Toe".
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