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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2012 at 10:17am
 
The best way to beat cancer is to eat 100% non processed, organic foods. Limiting your ORGANIC red meat intake and eating tons of ORGANIC fruits and vegetables. In fact, almost all cancer is directly related to poor lifestyle choices.
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 2:34am
 
Actually, I believe people got cancer back in the day when everything was organic....
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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 4:51am
 
True, people worked in uncontrolled conditions being exposed to all kinds of cancer causing factory and other pollutants. Prior to and in addition to this people smoked.... A LOT. Smoking was VERY VERY popular. Plenty of things have always been around even since cave man days that put humans at an increased risk for cancer.

It's a known fact that if a person controls every aspect of they're life including exposure to pollutants and keeps a healthy diet and exercise, they are unlikely to develop cancer until a much older age.

It's also a known fact that due to processed foods cancer has risen dramatically.
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 5:14am
 
Interesting how she offers the idea that the fear is a part of cultural conditioning. Probably means we think the fear is a normal state.

I haven't watched the second one yet.

Her website indicates that a doc presented some of the results showing the cancer was gone, but I don't recall ever hearing about this else where. There is more detail on her website.
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 8:40am
 
Hey as a similar thought line, what do you think of this about Wayne Dyer being treated by John of God for leukemia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VzCy5B_1QpM

hmm interesting not sure what to think...
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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 3:08pm
 
I am grateful for the reminder of the difference between an answer and a solution. I often forget. The following tirade is not directed at Focus 27. It is directed towards a certain kind of sanctimonious ignorance I have often heard on this topic:

Focus27 wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 10:17am:
The best way to beat cancer is to eat 100% non processed, organic foods. Limiting your ORGANIC red meat intake and eating tons of ORGANIC fruits and vegetables. In fact, almost all cancer is directly related to poor lifestyle choices.


Easy, isn't it? All I have to do is eat 'ORGANIC.' Except that it's expensive and I simply can't afford it. I presently have difficulty buying junk to eat. And there are LOTS of people in my position. I guess we're all idiots...'poor lifestyle choice' and all that.

I could stop paying child support but jail would be a 'poor lifestyle choice' and besides, they don't serve 'ORGANIC' food in prison. I'll pay my child support and die of cancer. Such is life in C1, aka The Real World, where not everyone has a good job, is well off, can shovel 'tons' of nice 'ORGANIC' food into their mouths, where the working poor are grateful to eat junk. Being poor means making hard choices. And making hard choices teaches you that solutions are rarely simple.

Btw, when did cancer stop being a disease and become (mostly) a choice?

Ok, rant over. Sorry Focus 27, not picking on YOU. Just what you wrote (which again, I've heard many times before).


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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2012 at 5:12pm
 
Wayne Dyer sincrely but cruelly offers dangerous simplistic answers to bafflingly complex mysteries.  He reminds me of some healing evangelists of a bygone era who blamed the victims for their lack of real faith when they weren't healed.  Prayer, attitude, even diet can make a difference in our health.  But the impicit blame and resulting guilt felt by those for whom these tired bromides just don't work is cruel indeed.  Don't get me wrong: I have seen faith work miracles.  But even powerful faith must be exercised with a sense of mystery.  We must know what we don't know.
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2012 at 12:56pm
 
  Speaking as one whose beloved Mother died from cancer when he was still living in the family house:  Some of her poor lifestyle choices as far as crappy diet, lack of exercise, and smoking, no doubt did a number on her body and was part of what allowed cancer to develop within same.  This is not as a "judgment" against her, but rather a statement of fact--Like ever attracts and begets Like. 

   To be sure, eating as healthy as one can, CAN help with the healing of cancer and of most ills in many peoples cases, but there are other important variables besides diet.  Such as various environmental pollutions one may not even be aware of, attitude, stress,  some genetic predispotioning, etc

  No doubt in my Mom's case, a radically different and much healthier diet and general health lifestyle would have helped her greatly since she was a kind, loving, and positive minded person.  To some extent, she knew better as far as her health practices (or lackthereof) went, but had various outside pressures and stresses which made it hard for her to choose and apply more wisely. 

  To Rob:  Eating healthier is generally more expensive, but it doesn't HAVE to be about eating all organic or what not.  For example, take Lentils, even if i buy "organic" Lentils, i pay about 1.69 a POUND.  Lentils are one of the healthiest and fastest cooking legumes around.  Combine that with regular or organic Brown Rice which one can buy in bulk for anywhere from 1 dollar a POUND to 3 dollars a pound on average, and you have a very nice complete protein with plenty of nutrition otherwise.

  Those same Lentils (or grains, like Wheat), if you soak and sprout them, then become less a legume or grain food (starch and protein), but more of a healthy, living Vegetable source of food.  A good balance can be had by using both methods. 

  Those living near natural areas can also hunt and forage some.

  One can look for small local farms and see if some are willing to set up a barter with them.  Donate an hour or two of physical labor and get a couple of cartons of great tasting and healthier eggs. 

  There are ways, to some extent, around the issue of eating more healthy even when more poor.  Unfortunately, much of this doesn't apply to people in very impoverished nations in places like Africa, Center and South America, Haitii, China, etc

  But i suspect it may apply to you--especially for one who lives in New Hampshire. 

  Much of the above applies to me.  I make only 10.15 an hour and right now can only work part time (and i'm getting paid the same as when i use to work for the same place 4 yrs ago!).  I don't have much money to spend. 

  I well know the frustration of trying to eat and live a healthier life since this is a HUGE part of my path this time around due to karma and self neglect in other lives and physical necessity in this life (sure, i could suffer daily with the immensely uncomfortable and painful hives i use to many times a day in the past or have the blaring red and scaly psoriasis on my face...). 

  But you make it sound like it is impossible...

  What is apparent to me though, is the sad state of the matter that many people i've observed could eat and live much healither lifestyles than they do, but just don't want to put in the necessary work, research, discipline, and change necessary to do so.  I see this much more often than the really poor people who deeply desiire and work towards greater health on all levels of their Being. (i've met some of the latter, but they are a definite minority around me at least)

   Attitude and beliefs must change first in many cases.  One such limitation is having the belief or feeling of how impossible it is to eat and have a much healthier lifestyle.  As long as one holds that in the mind and heart, it WILL be impossible. 

  my rant concluded

 
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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:00pm
 
Rob et al,
There is certainly a correlation between health and the ability to provide yourself with good quality food. This is well documented world-wide. It does not negate the value of eating well within your means, and of using ingenuity to maximize your food quality. Then there is the matter of time. Most folks who are working hard just to get by probably don't have time to barter for organic food.
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Reply #10 - Jan 12th, 2012 at 5:06pm
 
Justin,

"What is apparent to me though, is the sad state of the matter that many people i've observed could eat and live much healither lifestyles than they do, but just don't want to put in the necessary work, research, discipline, and change necessary to do so." 

Oh, so I don't eat organic because I'm lazy, ignorant, undisciplined, and unwilling to live on a diet of beans and rice. Nice. By the way, I live in a small town. To get to anywhere requires a lot of money for gas. The nearest egg farm is 20 miles away. The gas alone would make bartering for a couple dozen eggs a ridiculous cost proposition, assuming they would barter for labor which isn't likely for liability reasons. Not to mention someone else with equal zeal would object with the moral and spiritual claims of a vegan diet (with which I also sympathize).

I am quite aware of the benefits of an organic diet. It was the myopic ignorance of self-righteousness that my 'rant' was directed at. I didn't need a patronizing lecture about beans, rice and bartering, let alone how ignorant and lazy I am.

Rob

PS: I'm not at all offended. I'm just pushing back. I still luv ya  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 12:14am
 
I've learned some useful things from Wayne Dyer and he's helped me to be more open minded and more humble as well as see things around me from a different perspective although I still don't agree with everything he says and he sometimes does offer answers that are way too simple to be a full solution.
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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 4:51am
 
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The best way to beat cancer is to eat 100% non processed, organic foods.


And this still doesn't line up with what Moorjani is saying about her cancer.
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Reply #13 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 11:21am
 
  Hi Rob,

  That line that you quoted from me was in no way directed to you personally and individually;  as far as this forum goes it was a very impersonal and generalized statement and if you quoted more of it it would have included a part of, "I've observed". and later "Those around me at least." which was referencing to my inphysical interactions with those physically around me. 

  For an example: I work in home with families, or rather their children.  It is frustrating especially for me when one is working with a child with moderate autism, whom you know his autistic symptoms could greatly be helped if he didn't have such a crappy, junk food filled diet but had a very healthy one with some added supplements. 

  The family involved, can afford to feed him better, but it is easier and more convenient to give him what he wants because he is unusually stubborn/fixed and the foods he likes are very quick and easy to prepare. 

  Re: you, well i don't know you all that well, but i do not have the sense of you being lazy or ignorant (quite the opposite really)--besides, you explained your situation some and i understand that it's unusually tough for you right now. 

  However, i do not agree with the defeatist attitude you so loudly projected in a public space about this issue.  When one asks for help from the purely Creative forces and does so with the intent to improve self as to have a better effect on the Whole--amazing things can and will happen. 

There are no "barriers" or limitations for such powerful and Source attuned forces, except our limiting mind sets and attitudes.  They can help us manifest much, that we might not be able to do on our own.  Heck, if we get ourselves spiritually intune enough, we can experience what Yeshua did, "I have food you don't know about." when asked why he wasn't eating physical food.    Not that this easy by any means--i'm just mentioning it as another possibility. 

  Anyways, i hope things work out for your spiritual best, whatever that entails. 
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2012 at 11:53am
 
Lucy wrote on Jan 13th, 2012 at 4:51am:
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The best way to beat cancer is to eat 100% non processed, organic foods.


And this still doesn't line up with what Moorjani is saying about her cancer.


  I think it depends on the individual.  I met an older lady at a holistic health conference who had had cancer and she said she healed herself primarily by radically changing her diet--with a huge focus on raw veggies, green super food drinks, and fresh fruits. 

  With Anita it seemed like a more purely energetic/consciousness shift and opening up, which healed her physical body.

  In either case though, the Creative forces are involved and Like attracts and begets Like--Creative energies beget Creative energies. 
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