Thank you Kathy for pointing that out.  Along the lines of what you said.  One of my sort of role models in primitive living and emergency preparation is a guy named Cody Lundin.  He is one of those somewhat rare people who walks the walk and talks the talk completely.

   He, like many others trained in his "field", often mention that dealing with emergencies, extreme situations, basic survival etc. is primarily a psychological and mental thing in many ways. 

  You can never be fully prepared for such things, but as Kathy said, some pre-preparation can help not only physically but also a lot psychologically.  Fear and panic are more harmful in these scenarios than even a lack of food and shelter oft times. 

  It is not my intent to create fear in others, but to help with some measure of psychological and physical preparation.  I believe this is one of the reasons why many reputable sources that many here at Afterlife site are familiar with, personally respect and are drawn to--people and sources like Bob Monroe, Bruce Moen, Rosiland McKnight, Edgar Cayce, etc have broached the issue of "Earth Change's" and/or civilization collapse.

   These were and are sources, i strongly intuit, that were largely in touch with more expanded and constructive levels of guidance and in a sense, perhaps it was more guidance speaking through them about these things rather than just their personality wants, desires, knowledge, etc. 

  I don't know the exact "year" that this will start in earnest as far as modern, convenient necessities ceasing, but more and more, i'm feeling sooner, and sooner rather than later.  I've only now, myself, started to really prepare in any kind of material way for these kind of scenarios, and that's with being aware for many years of such potentials and having been giving many messages in many various different ways. 

  And for me, it has nothing to do with the specific date of 12/21/12 and the Mayan calendar, though I do think we can generally relate Galactic-Solar-Earth cycles to it to some extent as outer "markers" of general time frames.  This important 'outer marker' Galactic Solar Earth alignment has been brewing since about 1980 and will be fully completed by 2016 or so.   

  Many of us here at the Afterlife site know that death is a false word and nothing to be afraid of, and so, if i'm going to publicly bring up something like massive civilization changes and collapses, it would be at a place like this where the majority can handle it and will not become overly fearful when someone does talk about such things. 

  It is also my intuition that many here at this site can help others during these times and so, such potential helper types need to be even more prepared before hand then the many we cannot reach or prepare before hand.

  Ultimately, i see a VERY positive future unfolding despite some initial challenges and suffering.  But friggin look at the world right now, look around and see and feel how much suffering is going on around you RIGHT NOW.  Much physical suffering yes, but what about the degree of emotional and spiritual suffering?   

The Earth changes ultimately mean an end to this hamster wheel of holistic suffering we are on as a collective.  Is that not something to look forward to?   Sometimes to grow and really change a lot, you first have to go through a crucible of fire, but when you come out of that fire, you are changed--better, stronger, happier, more at peace. 

  This is that individual, microcosm process, simply becoming the collective and macro, and it is so and will happen to help co-create a Unity among us suffering stubborn and willful humans who so disrespect each other and the very Earth we live upon, day in and day out. 

  Such a collective positive change COULD happen without extreme outer catalysts, since more and more are waking up and starting to care more about each other and the Earth in a more universal and unconditional way, except that our larger society is in a strangle hold by a .1 percent of population who REALLY LIKES the way things are now, and who greatly fear any change to their lifestyles of unbelievable greed, power lust, material control, and domination of the Earth and earthly forces.  These are the truly insane ones, and yet they are in the positions of most material power and influence in this world.

It is THESE which need to be taken out in order for this healing process to fully complete in reasonable time.  This is why there will be extreme outer catalysts--in order to break their strangle hold on our global society.  As technology advances and grows, so does their ability to influence and control the masses, for they have the majority money and influence the politics, laws, etc more than any common person or even group can.

  They cannot be taken out by force by us, even if we were willing to start a bloody revolution, and many of us aren't inclined because we are spiritually centered, because they have whole brain washed military's and super advanced technology at their beck and call.  They can know anything about anyone's life through their technology, if one is part of the grid at all.

  What can remove them from the equation are powerful outer catalysts beyond their control, such as the forces of nature. 

  The good news is that in the future, as this collective healing takes place, we finally will have learned from our past and our mistakes, and we will not allow such individuals and systems to arise in power and force again--at least not for a long, long time. 

  If such above beliefs and perceptions make me crazy and unbalanced, then i'm gladly insane, for i would and will do anything non violent to help that positive future unfold.  At whatever cost or so called sacrifice to self.  I say so called, because i do not view self as just me, but all people, all Creation i know is self, and so there is no real sacrifice involved.

When i was 4 years old, and asked what i wanted to be when i grew up, being so aware of all the suffering around me and the state of the world, it broke my little heart to feel and i told my parents that i wanted to be a "doctor" to everyone everywhere and that i would always be there for anyone, for i literally cared about each and every person on this Earth. 

  This hasn't changed since then, except for a short time, i forgot about my deepest ideal, intentions, and desires.  I tell you all this, so that you can understand where i'm coming from with this, and the passion that motivates me.

eric wrote on Feb 7^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:


Ahh...Eric the half a bee.

Eric,
I notice you don't justify yourself or explain your position; you just state your decision taken. So you are comfortable with posters saying the world as we know it is coming to a violent and bloody end, that world wide destruction, death and suffering is coming soon, and dedicating threads and many posts to putting out that message. (which is fair enough) But if someone else questions those posts, if someone suggests that such posters who forecast such world wide destruction are going on like "nutcases", and points out that there have been many in the past who forecast the end of the world in 2000, 1986, 1000, etc, then you think such criticisms should be deleted, that such counter opinions disallowed. No debate, no counter argument - just delete the post; ban the concept.

On your own Eric, you are not much; unfortunately there are millions like you. And in your millions, each doing your little part, you are a problem - the greatest problem the free world has. You are like termites nibbling away at freedom's house. Collectively you seek to ban every activity, opinion, idea, even word, that you don't personally like; you destroy debate, ban expression of thought, stifle freedom and subsequently stifle human growth. 


Some thoughts others might consider:
Human virtue cannot be coerced out of an individual.
Intelligence and virtue are not imparted to people by restricting their expression; rather, intelligence and virtue are enabled to emerge by freedom of expression.
Suppressing people's speech, debate, opinion, expression, improves no one.

Only the known criminal needs to be restricted, and only in actions. Words are only people's thoughts dressed in sound and letters, so what, no one can be hurt by reading words upon a forum site. The text on the computer screen is inanimate, it has no pulse, it has no teeth or claws, it cannot hurt. There is no need to restrict any one's opinion.


Bruce and others,
Human intelligence and virtue can overcome all counter argument, and do not need to restrict their opposition's speech.

Only the doubtful need to restrict the opinions and speech of others.

Let all players play upon the field, let all contestants contest in the arena. Let falseness, rudeness, foulness, hatefulness, contest with truth, courtesy, and virtue. Let wrongness battle rightness, goodness battle badness, truth battle falseness, in open unrestricted battle. And see who is last standing. I have faith it will be truth; I know it will be truth.

Personally, I have no fear of pitting truth against any foe, no matter how foul. And truth does not need to censor or handicap its opponents. But falseness always seeks to.

I have just re-read:
1. "Revised posting guidelines and banning policy"
2. "Who's responsible for forum content?"

Most of the posting guidelines are vague and subjective and can be applied an any direction according to ones judgement. What is considered mocking, bullying, abusive, racist, offensive, proselytizing, demeaning, etc, are registered differently for everyone. And some people don't demand other's speech be banned when they read something that offends their sensibilities.

Personally I find a lot on this website to be offensive to me, but I let most of it go because I believe people have a right to offend - as long as they don't mind others offending back. I have had a shot back here and there, but generally I let things go. For instance, being a Christian who appreciates the work of the Church, and being proud of my Western heritage, I find the frequent comments on this forum that put down organised Christianity/religion and Western culture, while elevating what I might term Moenism and Monroeism, and complimenting Eastern wisdom, is a bit tiresome and even offensive. But I put up with my religion, race and culture being frequently backhanded because I believe others have a right to do that, and I should be strong enough to take it. I should also be able and free to return the counter argument if I so choose, and dish out a little offence. Offence is part of life; I accept that; so should we all. I have been likened to the Norwegian killer/terrorist Andre Brevik for my defence of Christian living. That's not pleasant, but life's not pleasant, so why should I expect a public internet forum to be pleasant. Unpleasantness is part of life. I can take it, so can anyone who only needs to realise they can take it.   

Let's not be weak and easily offended; and when we are offended, let's not call for other people's speech to be restricted. Lets only call for their speech and our speech to be free.

And let's not give way to the weak and the easily offended, or we will lose everything we have. For the weak and the easily offended - and those who pretend and play to be - are the most restrictive and oppressive people of all, especially towards those who try not to offend them, because their weakness is in their comparison to others, and their offendedness is in their own natures, therefore piece by piece they will take take take away all aptitude in those who try to appease them, until there is no comparison. 

Beyond common courtesies, appeasing the weak and the easily offended by restricting ourselves from offending them, is not an advancement of our society; it is our degradation, our backsliding. We should not limp before the lame to make them feel better with themselves, but we should stand tall and walk right, while giving them practical assistance as required, so they might stand tall and walk as right as they are able. 

What is a half-a-bee? I guess name calling is okay, along with condescension and abuse.  But hey, anything for free speech.

crossbow wrote on Feb 8^th, 2012 at 2:35am:

I felt that the post in question violated the forum guidelines.  Specifically, the post in question simply insulted another poster without offering any grounds for intelligent discussion or debate. 

Quote:

I'm comfortable with people saying just about anything as long as it is in a civil manner that encourages discussion, debate, and overall learning.

I think "Earth Changes" and "2012" are all a bunch of nonsense, but I'm not going to go around calling someone who disagrees a nutcase.  Doing so would not encourage free discussion.

Quote:

...Er... well, I really don't know if I can take any of this seriously.  In case you were being serious, I certainly don't aim to promote censorship and stifle freedom.  I was only reporting a post that indicated an internet troll.  In case you aren't aware, an internet troll makes useless, negative posts that bring about unnecessary drama. 

To top all of this off, the poster requested that this be a no-reply thread.  Seeing replies to a no-reply thread is adorable, but it is unreasonable to expect the original poster to pay attention to a thread that he didn't expect to generate discussion.

If society was governed by Erics, the word nutcase would be banned and those who use it would be silenced. Imagine how many other words, phrases and manners of speech would be banned with it - supposedly to promote constructive conversation and protect people from being insulted. As if the poor delicate dears need to be cosily oppressed for their own good.   


If society was governed by Crossbows, everyone could speak as creatively as they pleased; no one would be silenced. Manners and courtesies would be taught but not enforced.   


Heisenberg69,
The issue, according to the green lobby is that the world's temperature is rising to dangerous levels due to too much human produced carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and the polar icecaps are melting causing the seas to rise which will flood the lands and the planet is going to die. That is what is being indoctrinated into school children and adults. 

People on this site are frequently saying they don't accept belief systems, but only accept individual experience and first hand truth. Yet you are saying that you are running with the crowd, believing something because others believe it, who no doubt just like you, believe it because others believe it. And people think they are using their intellects to do that, think they are dealing with facts - no that is just belief, with no thinking involved. The most vicious parasitic belief of all, which destroys the potential of its host, is the host's mistaken belief that it has no beliefs, for that is belief and denial combined. The only protection from it is to be able to differentiate between belief and known fact. Most people don't have a clue how to do this. Instead they think that a fact is a wide spread belief. Most people in the religion of global warming treat scientists like fundamentalist religous people treat their priests and imams. They just believe what they say and do as they're told.       

Perhaps you might start a thread in the Off Topic section titled The Global Warming Debate. Then amongst yourselves you might be able to separate facts from belief. 

crossbow wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
 

I think you're inflating things beyond proportion just a little bit.  Censorship and freedom are very interesting and all and I'm sure it's an important issue in communist countries, but this is an internet forum.  Bruce has put certain rules in place.  I reported the post in question because I felt it violated those rules.  Bruce must have agreed since he removed the post in question, as well as another post that I didn't report.

I guess that's the post puzzling thing about all this racket-- I didn't remove the post.  Bruce did, and this is his forum.  You should bring your... uh... censorship concerns to him. 

I can't help but wonder if those upset by this incident are freedom fighters in a foreign land, battling an oppressive regime and stopping by the Afterlife Knowledge conversation board in between ambushes.  Removal of the "nutcase" post, with all its gems of wisdom and subtle intelligence, surely hit a few nerves.

crossbow wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 11:59pm:

Listen, this has been fun and all.  "Termite nibbling away at freedom"?  I've got to find a bumper sticker like that and put it on my car.  That's hilarious. 

And like I said, I understand why you'd be upset.  The removed post, with it's Shakespearian poetry and mastery of the English language ("Get a life" was my favorite), was truly a work of art.  To see it go is heart-rending for everyone involved.

But as fun as it's been, I think I'm going to wash my hands of this thread.  I used to stay involved in stuff like this, but then I turned 12, ya know?  Good luck with the whole freedom thing.

  I have not reported any posts/comments, nor will i, but i respectfully ask those in or inclined to pissing contests to take it elsewhere--especially since i did ask in the beginning to please not respond to this thread to begin with.