Recently the issue of communicating with spirits has come up on this forum. I have found that we are able to communicate with spirits in a manner that is more reality based than when we communicate with people.

When we communicate with people we usually go by what we see and hear. We go by nervous system input.

Communicating with spirits is different. Because we tend to focus on the perception of a physical body when we communicate with people, we don't fully experience a person's underlying reality. Spirits on the other hand don't have anything to share with us other than their true underlying reality. Therefore, when we communicate with them we are more inclined to experience what their nature is actually about.

When I communicate with a friendly spirit being I don't usally see a visual image of this being. Rather, I feel this being as it actually exists. I feel love, deep peace and expansiveness. When such a being shares information I receive a part of this being's knowledge.

If I go by what my human-based mind looks for when it tries to verify whether I'm communicating with another being, I don't get much from a spirit being.

If I forget about such an inapplicable approach and connect with a spirit being in the way that spirit beings do so, then I receive a means of verification that is much more significant than seeing an image of a person's body that not only doesn't accurately represent what that person's body is, it also doesn't represent what that person's spirit is. The same is true when my ears receive the sound waves that are created when that person speaks. The same is true for the sense of touch I feel when that person's body touches my body.

Yes an interesting topic.  I think what you're talking about is the same as Bruce saying "heart intelligence".  We get a more clear channel when shifting awareness to the "heart" or energy center. 

For quite a while now I've been learning how to what I call "scan" people.  I can do it with places, objects, anything.  But the same concept is used as you describe, tuning into a person thru feeling/sensing and because the physical sense is removed, this communication is direct and pure.  What I've found is that what I see/notice in the person thru physical senses greatly differs from what I picked up nonphysically, and the nonphysical senses are always hits, always verified, so I know it's real.  I know I can trust it. 

MJ, you sound similar to me.  I too notice people's energy long before I notice their outward appearance.

MJD:

Thank you for sharing your experience. I don't think of myself as a person who senses people empathically, but I believe I do so more than I am fully conscious of. For example, there have been occasions when I met some bad vibes people, and right away I could sense this. On some occasions they were at odds with me right away because their negative way of being was opposed to my way of being. Later on I found that there was something negative about them.

I believe I need to pay more attention to sensing what people are about. I get the impression that I don't do so as much as you.

On a somwhat related note, sometimes I'm too open with strangers. I relate to them as if there shouldn't be any barriers between us. Sometimes they don't appreciate this.

Just Me wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 7:46pm:


MJ,

How have you come to distinguish this?  Did it take many experiences for you to learn this, or was there some way that you were able to notice something specifically which signified it? 

I too have had this happen to me, and it takes me a while before I can distinguish and separate what's mine and what's someone elses.  I still have trouble with it, so I'm curious if you have some pointers for me.  My experience hasn't been like an illness, as yours was.  That is pretty extreme!  My experiences seem to be more about emotions and feelings.

Vicky wrote on Jan 26^th, 2012 at 9:16pm:


Hi Vicky,

I had to laugh out loud at this question! Believe it or not, I drafted the exact same question to you and decided to delete it.

I don't have a special process for it. I just have to take "inventory" of my own stuff and if I can't connect the dots I know it's not mine. Nothing scientific at all! lol

The scariest experience I had was not being able to walk. I woke up to get ready for work and I fell flat on my face. I tried to get up but couldn't make my feet work. I had no idea what was wrong because I was fine when I went to bed. It took about four days for me to "recover" and during that time I was in excruciating pain with no known cause (to me). About two months later I learned that a family member had surgery on both feet during that time. I have also developed burns, welts, scars and other signs of injury when I haven't been hurt (later confirmed to be someone else's). All of those have been no contact types.

I also can feel things if I touch someone. My brother is not very talkative. One day, he was visiting us and we were laying on my bed watching a movie together. I reached across to rub his hand just as a gesture of I'm glad you're here (he just returned from Afghanistan a few weeks prior). I immediately drew back because I could feel every ache and pain he was experiencing. I asked him if he was okay and he just kind of nodded. I told him he could talk to me about anything and I would be willing to listen. He never told me what happened to him during the war and I didn't press him on it. Yet, for several minutes I had the actual physical experience of his experiences. I try very hard not to get close to people or touch anyone because it still shocks me when it happens. It's unnerving to say the least!

Until a few years ago I was not aware of any of these types of things. I knew I was experiencing them, but I certainly didn't know there was a name for it or that other people could possibly understand. I still have never told anyone in my non-internet life. Of course my spouse knows because we've been together so long, but nobody else. Where would I even begin with something like this? 

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful and offer practical advice. I'll keep you posted should I have any revelations.

Kind regards,
mj

I love when we talk about spirits... almost everyone seems to agree that we have "good" spirits and "evil spirits"

Just what are these evil spirits? Are they possibly another form of being... such as demons? Or are they just spirits of intelligent life in general that decided they enjoy hurting others?

These evil spirits... tortured souls that are stuck in a reality of needing to hurt others?

Hows does one become one of these spirits?

Will I become an evil spirit when I die?

I think these are all valid and interesting questions. I enjoy pushing peoples buttons of course, but do I really want to hurt anyone? And, in the end "evil spirits" are always toted as wanting to hurt but being unable to hurt you unless you "allow" them... so what point is there of them existing then?

I mean, I really don't want to be an evil spirit unless I can have a grotesque demon body of incredible power and really have some fun with it......

Just saying.....

My point is still there. If being evil doesn't entail really cool Japanese Anime style grotesque body and strong powers and cool combat with the hero, I just don't see the point. I would be all over that L.A. Blue girl

I don't agree with the below. Say a little girl is forced to be a prostitute. I don't care what culture or galaxy a person comes from, it is a very negative thing when a little girl is forced to be a prostitute. The same is true with a lot of things such as when a husband beats his wife. It is not relative.

Sometimes people get into this moral relativism business because they want to be more loving and therefore non-judgmental.  It is fine to be non-judgmental, but another very significant part of love is compassion. When we listen to our hearts intellect based moral relativism gets thrown out the window. It is quite easy to see whether the action that is taking place is good or bad. If somebody such as a little girl is harmed, and we listen to our heart and consider her welfare, there is no way we can deny that something bad is happening to her.

Last night I watched "The Pianist."  The movie is based on a true story. What happened to the Jewish people in the "true" story the movie was based on was horrible. It is okay for our souls to recognize when something unjust is done.

Some people might wonder why I speak against somebody such as Neale Donald Walsch. One of the reasons is that he makes God sound like a dimwit who doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong. I don't mean that God is judgmental, but certainly God understands when the evil actions of some cause others to suffer. Certainly God cares about when people are harmed, just as any loving person or being would care. I believe Walsch is poisoning people's mind with his moral relativistic BS.


heisenberg69 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 5:31am:

I meant "The Pianist," not "The Piano Player."

I believe it's BS for a guy to claim that he channels God when he doesn't.


Volu wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 4:18pm:

heisenberg69:

I don't want to make the mistake of putting myself in a trap where I am not being able to determine what is appropriate on a moment to moment basis. Therefore, I view a situation according to what is happening now, rather than according to what happened at another time and place.

recoverer wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 7:25pm:


Exactly- from a perspective embedded within a particular time and place. Nothing wrong with that we all do it.

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