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Nov 18th, 2011 at 3:49pm
 
Hi,

We shouldn't be into all this for the special effects, but I had to write about this one anyway.  I hope someone will tell me what's happening and if it might lead to something more obviously meaningful --

I've owned a teapot for thirty-five years that the potter told me was special.  It's ceramic, glazed in off-white with dashes of mossy greens and tans. The dashes are about the size of fathers so I nicknamed it "Feathers" --cutesy eh. It's roundish like a plump hen.

Early yesterday morning it was on a different place in the kitchen and I was sitting sort of meditating. A very early ray of sun beamed onto "Feathers" and as I watched, it began to glow. It became like translucent bright gold and had so much light in it that other items around it reflected its glow!
My forehead area became hot and felt like it was swelling up! I felt suspended but didn't leave my body.

Now if I look at the teapot my 'third eye' area seems almost magnetized by it and I feel very happy inside, even though the teapot hasn't glowed since.

Do you know what caused this?  Can it happen again?
Any ideas are very welcome.

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Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 8:58pm
 
Perhaps it is one of those instances of God and Nature giving you a little help along the way.
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My forehead area became hot and felt like it was swelling up! I felt suspended but didn't leave my body.

Greetings Betson.

   After reading this, I did some research and found a webpage that mentions this occurrence with opening of the third eye:
http://www.meditationiseasy.com/mCorner/techniques/trataka.htm

   Here is an excerpt from that webpage that explains what may have caused the heat in your forehead:
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Though I have taken care in explaining this meditation technique of Trataka  by telling you just that which is sufficient for you ; I still feel that you should be aware of the sensitiveness of this meditation and about some precautions which you should follow while trying this.

When you meditate on Agya Chakra, you meditate on a part of your subtle body. It may happen that when you meditate on your third eye, you feel that the center of your forehead is heating up. When it happens it indicates that the third eye is attracting energy of the Kundalini. Though this heating is not harmful, you should be very careful. There may be a feeling of hotness with itching on third eye area. As and when it happens stop immediately. As a layman who does not know the intricacy of this Kundalini and its various paths, it s better to limit oneself to the process of meditation only i.e. achieving a still and thought-free state of existence.

Please don't indulge in this meditation too deeply if you start feeling too much hot sensation on your third eye area. Few things should be used only in moderation if we do not have the capacity to handle their larger implication.

So be happy and be meditative. Try third eye meditation without giving any thought to  Kundalini awakening. Just do what has been told and you will be in meditation. The awakening of Kundalini is a concept of yogis who are full time dedicated to this subject. We, as a common men and women of twenty first century, neither have he time nor the patience which is required for Kundalini awakening.  Nevertheless, if you do want to know more and experiment on this, please consult a yogic expert who can personally guide you. As far as meditation is concerned what I have told you is enough.


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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 10:46am
 
Thank you so much, Ralph!

You just saved me alot of trouble!  I had no idea that "Feathers" could be associated with kundalini. I've had some earlier experiences with that force and do not care to repeat them.

Crossbow, your comment on God and nature working together has given me alot to think about.  I am going to set a goal to seek out more examples of golden light and beauty in nature.
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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 12:20pm
 
Bets,

I had a long period of internal confusion/blockage when I could not communicate with God or even find my sense of conscience, and my heart was closed, my prayers felt lonely and useless, and I had no sense of being answered in the usual way that answer occurred in the past. But during that long and unpleasant time a strange pattern emerged that I had never experienced before. Nature started talking to me with overt signs, omens and the like and I could understand their meaning. Because God (I think many here prefer higher self) could not get through to me the usual direct way because of my blockage, a round about way was utilised. I hope I don't bore you by telling you one of the first events. I stepped outside to go to work in the morning and as I opened the car door I looked up and saw a crow hovering stationary on the wind directly above me. Then it flew away to a place about a hundred yards up the road and hovered there. I casually noticed it because it is unusual for a crow to hover; then I dismissed the interest and got in my car to drive to work. A hundred yards up the road I realised I had flat tyre and got out to change it. I couldn't feel the recess underneath car frame in which the jack rests and I got frustrated so laying on my back I foolishly raised the low set car by pushing up with both hands and put my head underneath to look for the recess. My arms weakened and the car dropped on my head, resting on my forehead and pinning me there. The pain and pressure was immense and I felt my skull would soon break under the pressure. I live on a lonely country road and I imagined a neighbour would come along later and find my dead body laying on the road with its head crushed under the car. I was looking directly upward through the trees and I realised I was looking up to exactly where the crow had flown to and hovered. I knew I must get the car off my forehead or die. I pressed up with all my strength and got my head out, which was only sore, cut and bruised. I knew deep inside me that the crow had been telling me about what was going to happen. Over the next couple of years such signs and omens of nature via the birds, insects, animals, plants, trees, etc, became common place. I could sometimes do my prayer, which felt as if no one was listening or answering, and then walk outside and immediately see an answer in nature. Some of the signs/omens were most revealing and deep in their teachings. As I have begun to recover from my dark night of the soul so nature has spoken to me less and my communications are returning to being more direct. I have since learnt that every creature, plant, aspect of the elements and feature of nature not only carries a teaching but is a living teaching of a truth/message and has a greater purpose. And not only that, and this is the most amazing part, I have learnt that everything in nature is just an outer end of something much greater, like each creature or feature is the end of a staff or the imprint of its end and each feature has behind it a "staff" of energy or further part of itself that extends up through the layers of the "cosmos" towards the feature's origin from where it comes. As I came to better realise this my eyes got adjusted to it and I could see it - not just with mind's eye but with real eyes. I have since seen some truly amazing sights behind the scenes, layered and layered. I have learnt that behind little things like insects, birds, shadows and sun beams, clouds, etc, to big things like mountains, trees, forests, the planet, elements, stars, etc, are great energies and workings and messages that are small and great. I hope this inspires some readers to look more closely at things and to have faith that God is within and behind all things.          
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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 5:44pm
 
Dear Betson Smiley
I think You were purified in meditation. It is the kind of kundalini and it brings happiness and warm inside.
And much better seeing of the third eye.

Try to look on plants and see them in pink or golden little rays.
When the heart is open and consciousness  grows Things like that happens.

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Reply #6 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:56pm
 
Smiley

Crossbow and olinerum,  your comments lead into the future as ways to develop from this experience. I really appreciate that, since sometimes  these experiences (not the retrievals) feel like they stand alone, separate from life.  At least I often don't see where they are leading, if they are leading....

Regarding the pink and gold 'auras' (?) of plants, ole,
This time of year some very lush, tall grasses have very fine  pink  seedheads that wave in the breeze. They are very fascinating, so much so that they can almost hypnotize.  Maybe we stare at them because we unconsciously recognize their pink color, even if we don't yet consciously see plants' pink rays?

So now I'm putting on a coat and heading outdoors  Smiley
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Reply #7 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:45pm
 
Betson
Try to meditate with your  physical eyes open.  When You feel nice calm inside You point the eyes at the plant but staring througt it. 
It's technic of seeing the aura.

Plants emit pink, blue, purple, gold colors, which look like  short little hairs protruding off them.
Simply lovely Smiley

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I have to tell that I just love to read some of Your posts.
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Reply #8 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 4:06am
 
Thank you Ole and Bets. We work together. 

What Olinerum said is true.
I will add something to Ole's suggestion of how to see auras around grass.
I will add a little more detail to assist people in understanding of how to activate the second sight.

This post will explain how to see into other dimensions.
It is how I was taught. It is not easy, requires practice. It is an effort of both mind and eyes, and it may require some supportive understandings on dimensions, space, structure and matter, but we will see how we go. 

There is no better training tool for exercising second sight ability than grass swaying in the breeze. I used it, along with other tools of course - ants, leaves, crowds of people, and other broad vision expanses of many movements, but I have found that grass is best. If it is not available then use trees, ants, crowds or whatever scene is available.

Sit and gaze at the gently swaying grass. If it is a still day it doesn't matter; you will see it is not as still as you think.
Centre yourself in the head. Back of the eyes. You the core.
Pure awareness/observation.
Gaze out through the eyes. Do not be in the eyes, but back from the eyes. Gaze through them gently, like they are windows.
Eyes stationary. Eyes do not follow any movement or look at the detail of any particular thing.
Do not limit focus to the central vision.
Activate/be aware of full field vision evenly, out to the periphery of the vision field; from left to right, and from top to bottom peripheries.
Do not focus any more upon one place in the vision field than upon another. Exercise whole field vision.
With full field vision activated:
Do not fall back into detail vision / central vision.
Maintain full field vision to peripheries. And focus/notice only movement (not detail) across the full field vision.
Getting to this stage in itself is likely to take much practice and time.
Be gentle, persistent, and regular. And patient.
When you can tune strongly into only movement focus, you will see the grass moving everywhere across your full field of vision. Any insects, birds or any and all movement, even the slightest, will be noticeable. 
But don't look at any individual movement - don't move eyes to focus on the detail of any single particular movement - keep all movements happening evenly, from left to right, from up and down, from near and far, all movements are in equal focus.
But when you practice also let yourself occasionally focus on particular movements so that you lose the full field movement vision and have to gain it back again. This is good exercise, and the contrast between the two types of focus - detail and movement - will become apparent.
Practice this until it is easy.
When movement focus is strong then colours may change or disappear. Details may disappear. Ignore this. Just retain movement focus.
The patterns of the movements will become visible, as will the connectedness and relationship of moving things. The dance of the grass, leaves, trees; the pathways of ants and other insects, and of birds, animals and people if you are watching them.
Now the movements of near and far are both in equal focus/notice to you, the three dimensional world is now flat to you - as long as you retain full field movement focus. There is up and down, and left and right, but there is no depth to your vision, for the near and far movements are equally visible/noticeable as if on a flat screen.
The third dimension that you normally view is now flat, is now two dimensional. It has no depth; no to and fro.
While retaining this flat screen movement focus, while keeping far movement and near movement in equal focus, like equal distance from you, flat, now pierce or reach through the flatness with your mind in a to and fro direction - but keep the normal three dimensional scene movement focused and flat.
In this way, the depth dimension of normal third dimensional vision is kept flat, as if it is on a flat screen, while the mind/intent reaches through the screen in a to and fro fashion - this is the mind reaching in another dimension of depth that is not normally perceived.
Now, while keeping the eyes maintained on their flat movement focus, let the eyes (at the same time) also "go with" the effort of the mind/intent as it reaches through the flat scene and perceives the extra dimension of depth.
The lenses will tingle, even hurt a little, as the eyes hold the three dimensional scene flat while straining to pierce it with the new dimension of depth that the eyes have never perceived before. The structure and cells of the eyes are making a new effort, not made before.
Be gentle with your eyes, pressing only a little further with each practice session.
When the eyes learn to follow the second type of depth that the mind's effort is making then the eyes will see into another dimension. Scenes will be seen that are not of the familiar three dimensional world.

This exercise is how the eyes see into the fourth dimension; by flattening one dimension of depth and looking through the flatness at another dimension of depth.
It makes the third dimension two dimensional, so the fourth dimension becomes three dimensional. 
It is a method of enabling the mind to comprehend an extra dimension, which is hard to do when we retain comprehension of three dimensions. So we scale it down. And the eyes have the mechanical ability to follow the mind's effort.    
By visually flattening the dimension of depth, then while holding it flat, we can introduce another perception of depth that pierces it, so then we can look through the dimensions like peeling back screens or turning the pages of a book. Flattening, piercing, flattening, piercing.

This is how I have been able to see wonderful things behind the scenes. And see and learn wonderful things about life and nature. Almost too wonderful to describe. So beautiful and awe inspiring that I have cried and been overwhelmed.

I was taught the method mainly by two persons, one a human assistant whom I would meet when I went out of body, the other a type of overseer nature spirit who oversaw a forest where I used to live twenty years ago, but moreover I was shown it and learned it by the grace of God. I don't deserve it, for I am just a normal man with many faults and weaknesses; it is mainly due to some lucky decisions I made along the way.

It is not seeing by clairvoyance, or imaginative or interpretive seeing; it is not "sensing" or seeing with the "mind's eye"; it is real actual focusing and seeing into other dimensions with the physical eyes. It is focusing the eyes fourth dimensionally.

As far as I know, this is the first time this method of focusing the eyes into other dimensions has been written down and presented publicly. I expect it will become more widely known and practiced in the future. Second sight focus is not an airy-fairy thing; it is a biological and technical fact. Science must one day discover that the human eyes can focus fourth dimensionally. Replication devices will be developed, as the development of the camera replicated the eye's three dimensional vision. What I have seen, everyone will see. 

There is more to this method of manipulating second sight focus, such as special breathing, and shifting of certain energies around with the breath, and understanding the structural relationship of the dimensions, but what I have written about it here is enough for now.

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There is also another method of activating second sight by which the upper centres (crown, head, throat, heart) are charged with virtuous energies and the energies come together and join up, like a sort of chemical/energetic reaction, and the second vision then happens naturally without it having to be directly manipulate as I have explained above. I have experienced this one too. The vision it enables and the scenes it reveals are beyond comprehension until experienced. The bodies/layers all resonate together like a great harmonic chord; the mind eye and physical eyes join together as one; there are no barriers, everything can be seen through to the next thing, to the next, to the next, and all at once; and there is no restriction of distance or size, everything near and far, great and small, from the littlest thing to the universe, and all dimensions are laid open and visible. Then our presence mixes with all we see, so the vision is also touching/being/knowing. I experienced this one time in prayer when my heart was aching with thankfulness to God for the beauties of nature and life, and I breathed a certain way and made a certain mental effort inside myself, and then my centres joined up and energies came together from the crown and through the heart and then it happened. What I saw and learnt was amazing and massive. After several minutes it became too much and I realised my brain could be burnt or damaged from the energies so I prayed to God to let me down. I was brought gently down to a normal state. But I was changed. This type of vision can result from what Jesus taught us in the Gospels.   

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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 4:28am
 
Thank you, not just for myself of course.

For those of us who wear glasses, should we keep them on through these steps?
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Reply #10 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 5:06am
 
Re. glasses: I have always taken my reading glasses off. I have found it best if my full field of vision is available right to the periphery so if the frames interfere with peripheral vision or are within the visual field then I would be inclined to remove them, unless I needed them to see reasonably well and to see the movement, then I would get glasses with wide lenses so the frames were outside of my field of vision.

(he he, like Elton John used to wear Shocked )

But you might be fine with the glasses you have. Play about with it. Experiment.    
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Reply #11 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 2:13pm
 
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This exercise is how the eyes see into the fourth dimension; by flattening one dimension of depth and looking through the flatness at another dimension of depth.
It makes the third dimension two dimensional, so the fourth dimension becomes three dimensional.
It is a method of enabling the mind to comprehend an extra dimension, which is hard to do when we retain comprehension of three dimensions. So we scale it down. And the eyes have the mechanical ability to follow the mind's effort.   

Greetings crossbow.


   When I read this it brought back some memories. I have accomplished this while doing mirror meditations in the past. I also accomplished this during the meditation I had around ten years ago in the backyard of my previous home.

   I was meditating on the trees over my hammock when the three dimensional world became two dimensional and I felt my consciousness shift awareness to a different vibration. I had the strongest feeling that I was moving into a state of mind that resonated better with the Deva kingdom. The trees were so much more majestic looking and swaying as if in harmony with each other.

   I didn't receive any verbal type message, but rather an impression on my mind that the trees were conversing with me as best they could to tell me that they appreciated my effort in contacting them and that they were sad that very few humans make this kind of effort. I sensed happiness from the trees and stayed in that state of mind for about a half hour. Then I faded back to this level of awareness. It was one of the most enjoyable days of my life.

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Reply #12 - Nov 23rd, 2011 at 12:00pm
 
Hi Ralph,
You described that experience clearly. Yes, the tree can be seen to move in harmony with each other. That harmony is what I referred to by the patterns of the movements. Normal vision doesn't show the harmonies and patterns; the movements just look erratic and uncordinated, and not many movements either.

Cats see like it all the time. That is why they often meow uncomfortably when they look out a car window when its going along. The landscape turns fluid to their vision. If the landscape is flat they see it as a great swirling whirlpool beside the car as wide as from the car to the horizon, and another whirlpool on the other side. It makes them feel scared and sick and like the world is going runny and illogical. If the landscape is not flat they see the near things going back past the car and things further away like mountains they see as travelling forward with the car, like the world is bending or shearing apart. My cat showed me this many years ago. He meowed while in the car and told me the world had gone watery and was swirling around and trees were running in all directions. I said, what are you talking about you silly cat, and he said, take a look, and threw me a telepathic picture and I saw what he was seeing. Then I focused with full field movement vision to see it for myself and saw he was right, there really was a whirlpool beside us and the trees really were running in all directions. I tried to explain to him that it was an optical illusion caused when cat vision moves along in a car but he couldn't grasp the concept and preferred to get down on the floor where he couldn't see it.          

You might try it when you are a passenger in a car or bus. Don't look out the side when driving of course.

When one gets strong at the movement vision the sense/feel of it becomes known, and then one can use it where there is no movement such as indoors looking at stationary things.


      
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Reply #13 - Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:17pm
 
Those are wonderful experiences, or states, or gifts -- thank you for sharing them !

I'm having trouble finding the tall grasses to practice such vision on, since I live in the woods.  We don't mow but they don't grow  Smiley  I hadn't thought to watch the tree limbs.

Have we ever had a thread here on such communications with animals?!  It seems like maybe comments have been made in passing but not much full discussions.  Maybe it's hard to talk about. Like so much of the non-physical realms, either you do or you don't have such experiences, and the Don'ts can't believe the Do's. But with a title that can be googled maybe more would share from that realm also.  I just talked myself into it....
Please also see "Our animals and altered states."  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Nov 27th, 2011 at 5:08am
 
Not really gifts Bets. I prefer to say I made some "lucky decisions" in some past lives and the results came about in this life. One result was being born with a strong sense of my own presence in my head, and this gave me potential to learn how to leave the body and do some other things. I don't know about next life - maybe I'll be normal again.

By the way Bets, I played around with different glasses and frames and they don't seem to make a lot of difference, so I wouldn't be bothered by them.

Yes, trees are fine. Any scene is fine for exercising full field movement focus. You will be surprised at how much movement is happening in your field of vision once you learn to isolate it.

Practice full field vision anywhere you can, be aware of peripheral vision, after a while you will get the "feel" of it, and it can become a habit, like default setting when focusing on central detail is not required. A very good time to do it is when walking. There is still central attention but there is awareness of full field too. Be aware of central and peripheral vision and the full field will fill in between the two.   

There are many beneficial effects and potentials from this full field vision when you get it. I won't list them because that would be a book. See if you notice any of them yourself.

But remember the full field movement focus is not the second sight, just a stage towards it.  First stage is the movement focus, with full field view. Then while doing that comes the flattening of the scene / elimination of dimension of depth. Then while holding the full field flatness, pierce/reach through the middle of the flattened scene with mind and eyes together. This new depth of vision is not 3D depth because that is flattened, but is 4D depth. I will not say what you will see first, that is for you to discover. 
 
The stages are thin as paper but when the method is viewed as expanded then the stages are seen thicker. I have magnified the thickness of the veil to describe the penetrative stages.   

Ole might be seeing auras easily without being aware of the breakdown of stages; just slipping through the stages because the veil is so thin. Ole, is your method something like I am describing here?

Back in 1980s & early '90s I told my teacher that I only wanted to learn such skills if I also learnt all the detail of how and why they work, so that I could explain the workings of these things to others and how to do them step by step. I made this a condition of my learning. That is why I can explain the detail and the workings of everything I can do.   


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