Consider the below affirmation that Dude wrote.

"I am surrounded by benevolent spirit guides of the highest vibration of love and light who assist me in all ways to evolve to higher states of consciousness"

Whether or not this is true isn't based on making an affirmation.  The availability of such guides is more a matter of how much a person applies himself and makes himself available for service that isn't about sitting at the front of audience, having fans and earning money. Friendly guides don't have to show up just because we affirm that they are there.

I figure there are some people who said an affirmation that served the purpose of allowing them to channel a positive being, and then they ended up channeling a deceptive being. Perhaps there are occasions when benevolent beings hope that we will use our discrimination.

What if benevolent beings don't believe it would be purposeful to have a particular person be their voice piece for numerous people? Perhaps they don't believe it would be appropriate for a person to charge people $200.00 an hour for words that come from benevolent beings. (I chose $200.00 because this is what Paul Selig charges.) If a person is stubborn about it and continues to try to channel despite the above factors, perhaps he might end up channeling somebody other than a benevolent being. Perhaps benevolent beings allow overly eager and nondicriminating people to channel deceptive beings so they'll unfortunately learn the hard way. Read Joe Fischer's "Siren Calls of Hungry Ghosts" to see how often people are deceived by the beings they channel.

If benevolent guides are always there, then an affirmation isn't needed.

Whatever the case, I wouldn't play a tape that makes the kind of affirmation being discussed because I believe there is much more to being a good match for a benevolent spirit guide than repeating an affirmation. I say this after considering the numerous reasons for which I have been able to connect with benevolent spirit beings.

There are occasions when affirmations are "a part" of a person manifesting intent.

I believe it is important to remember that it is possible to have thoughts without truly understanding what they mean, or without being defined by them in some way.

One of the reasons I was able to make contact is because I've voluteered my self for a certain kind of spirit work. My volunteering was based on an understanding of what is needed, not on repeating thoughts that have no depth. Because I have the understanding I have, there in no need to repeat thoughts that can seem to be related, even if they lack depth.

The fact of how one person can tell another that he (or she) loves this other person without meaning it, shows how shallow words can be.

I agree that we need to negate limiting beliefs, but repeating the opposite won't do the trick.

A lady who was a member of the guru-based group I used to belong to comes to mind. She used to tell people how much she loves the guru we saw.  She seemed assertive and this was for a good reason. She had doubts about the guru that she didn't want to acknowledge so she affirmed the opposite. Eventually she allowed herself to see how she really felt about the guru and left him.

I Am Dude wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 8:13pm:


  I did not have time to proof read my post and yes there are too many are's in there. 

  It should read, "affirmations can help, but only as long as the different levels OF you are actually supporting same in other ways." 

  Basically, i agree with both you and Albert here.  I've used affirmations, i know they can help, and they have helped me, but to some extent they are just another prop. 

  I find most of my growth occurs spontaneously, often in facing daily challenges, stresses, and choosing constructively in such situations.  Particularly often in emotional tests with my partner, jobs, and health (or lack thereof) experiences.

  I use to be really into crystals and gemstones, as well, to a lesser extent affirmations, and while they are apples and oranges in comparison, they are still both props and both can definitely help, again if there is the real inner desire and support on the various levels of self supporting. 

  Sometimes affirmations can be unhelpful or rather, just a waste of time and energy.   

For an example, one might think that such an affirmation like, "my body is strong, healthy and completely balanced" might be a great one.  Perhaps they are already fairly healthy, but want more health etc.

  Yet, it could be that that same person's higher self, decides that what might facilitate the most spiritual growth for their personality self is to experience a debilitating illness of some kind.  In such a case, isn't the soon to be sick person kind of wasting their time and energy when saying such affirmations, when in 4 months their body will be come majority imbalanced for spiritual growth purposes? 

Sometimes there is a lack of humility in more specific affirmations--sometimes these would be more constructive if they were turned into prayers such as, "not my will be done, but the will of the Creative forces."  or, "lead me Creative forces, show me the way." or "Please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most spiritually helpful for me and my influence on the Whole to become aware of." 

This shows awareness and humility that the personality self doesn't necessarily know what's best for itself and is willing to be led by sources more intune than the personality level (these can be within or without, in a sense).
 
  I find more open ended and spiritually oriented affirmations tend to be more universally helpful.  For example, often when i meditate, i say something to myself like, "I deeply desire and ask to communicate with and attune to only the most spiritually helpful, loving, aware consciousnesses.  I deeply desire and ask for their help, direction and guidance." 

   This helps me to connect to these, but what helps even more in the experience and remembering of love.  I use the two in combination.  This, i know, assures that i will get guidance from only that level. 

  It's possible that i could state such an affirmation, but then later have some unloving thoughts and feelings and with not attuning to PUL, i could tune more into less constructive and aware levels even though i stated the affirmation before.  Stating such an affirmation should not lull me into a false sense of security or belief of, "i can't be influenced by unhelpful sources", when if i did have negative, limiting thoughts or feelings, it certainly can tune me into non PUL attuned sources and levels quite quickly, automatically,  and unconsciously on my part.   It would be helpful to still keep a sense of discrimination, testing, and feeling out.

  It's all about balance Vincent.  Too much focus on, and power given to, affirmations can lead to the lazy man's approach to spiritual growth.  There are no short cuts in spiritual growth, but there are helpful props and tools which can facilitate awareness some.  It's what you do and choose with the awareness that really matters and determines the actual growth. 

 

Affirmative. Glad to read some pretty darn good and balanced posts on the subject.

Dude,
"What you focus your attention on, you bring to yourself/create."

The attention is focused on the forum and more words. You're welcome all.

Experiences on this big rock basically follow the same flow as the basic ones the beings have in the place monroe dubbed as home. The fluffsters focus on sound and vision, both which are repeating in loops.  Here there are way more varied experiences available, they do indeed repeat until mastered, and we're eased into the complexity by the living concept of being a child. The result of all these repeating experiences is that each step walked around the various concepts we're here to gain knowledge about act as affirmations and sparks of hope - mastering that which at one time may have been deemed impossible, figuring out more than dreamt possible even just one year ago - that we're getting there, wherever and whenever that is.

Dude said: "A moment ago I stated the affirmation, "My chakras are in perfect health and alignment."  Instantly I became aware of the energy flowing through them, and experienced state of great well being and peace inside that flowed with the energy through my circuit.  Just from one affirmation.  One thought.  What you focus your attention on, you bring to yourself/create."

Recoverer responds: "Maybe it was a matter of your higher self/spirit guidance becoming aware of your intent when you made an affirmation, and they responded accordingly. There have been occassions when I showed the intent to get rid of a blockage and without making an affirmation received help.

Programming ourselves with a repeated thought and showing intent isn't the same thing.

The power of magic is often thought of as being unreal.  Quite the opposite is true, and there are and have been mages, shamans, and healers throughout history for very good reasons.

Intent tied to belief causes manifestation of the result into our reality.  The spoken word, tied into intent and belief is a most potent Talisman.  It moves with breath or prana (as the Hindus called it), and is grounded to our physical bodies with the vibration of our vocal cords. 

Dave-MBS, a most enlightened soul who is in the afterlife now, would talk on this very forum about binding your intent, to words, and to an object in the physical world.   By doing so, he would say you have created a "three-legged" spell.  So you state an intent (affirmation), you believe it, and feel the belief while relaxed, and then ground it to the real world through an action (drinking a vial of liquid, or writing down the affirmation and then committing it to fire/flame)   

Very powerful, when you impress your subconscious connection to the universe with these things.  You focus your intent in a strong way.

So yeah, affirmations are useful, powerful, not robotic (unless you allow them to be), and one more tool to express yourself.  When tied to meditation, belief and right action, they are a useful tool at that.

Matthew

Dude,

it would be interesting to know if the effect of listening to taped affirmations would vary depending on whether oneself is the speaker or someone else is the speaker. Have you any findings regarding that?

Spooky