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Nonphysical Beings on Skype?
Oct 28th, 2011 at 12:41pm
 
To All Techno Types

My friend, Carolene Heart, was recently doing a session from here in Florida with a client in a European country via Skype Video Chat.  At several points during the session Carolene was in communication (telepathic) with nonphysical beings who were near here client.  At times she was interacting with them, sometimes getting information, sometimes retrieving aspects.  During some of these times Carolene could see the nonphysicals on the Skype Video Chat screen on her computer screen.

Assuming that Carolene saw what she said she saw, and I personally have no doubt, how can such images of nonphysicals appear on a Skype Video Chat screen?

Instead of discussing whether or not Carolene actually saw this I'd like to see posts that analyze what might be called the "technology of Consciousness."  What are the implications for what Consciousness IS and how it FUNCTIONS?  What must be true of the inner workings of Consciousness for Carolene, a gifted psychic and medium, to see these images on a computer monitor screen during a session with a client?

I am fascinated by this event and interested in software that can record Skype Video Chat screens to see if the images of nonphysical beings shop up on recordings.

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Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 2:55pm
 
Bruce:

Maybe it was a matter of what her mind perceived. Something such as her higher self caused her to see what other people might not see.

One time I was watching a television show and an actor turned a machete so the wide part rather than the thin edge could be seen, and I saw a reflection within this flat part that was of a person I used to know.

The first time I made contact with my disk in a way where I was conscious of doing so, while awake in an expanded state of consciousness, I looked at my digital clock  and the top dot of the colon was moving around. I believe my disk caused me to perceive in such a way.

I don't remember the specifics, but remember when you found out about Joshua while traveling on a plane? Didn't you see his name rather than what was actually written?
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Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 3:18pm
 
Hi Bruce,

I agree that Carolene may have seen it nonphysically, with her own consciousness that is, but not necessarily that she saw what appeared on the screen.  Perhaps to her own interpretation, it seemed like she saw it on the screen.  The only way to know if it "appeared on the actual screen" as you say, would be if Carolene had hit the button that lets her take a photo during the Skype chat.  Did she do that? 

To answer your questions, the implications of what consciousness IS and how it FUNCTIONS is that our consciousness is us, our spirit energy and it is always able to expand, interact, communicate within whatever realm we are focused in.  Because Carolene was working on Skype, that is where her consciousness was focused.  If, for instance, she was writing a letter by hand, by candle light, a much different setting...her consciousness would still work within that setting and bring information to her awareness in whatever way she could perceive.  It makes no difference what kind of technology is used because we are ever-adapting beings.  I always say that my Guidance always knows what I'm thinking, feeling, or doing and communicates with me through whatever means can get my attention in those focuses, because that's where I'm focusing my conscious awareness at the moment. 

Bruce, I think that answered your second question about what must be true of the inner workings of Carolene's consciousness.  By the way, she's no different or more gifted than any of the rest of us.  She is just more aware than others of her own ability and awareness.  But we all have the same abilities of consciousness. 

I too wish Skype had a video recording function.  But remember, whether it could have recorded it or not doesn't change anything about a person's ability to perceive.  If the video was recorded and the image didn't show up, it doesn't change what she experienced...it would just be very interesting if it had shown up. 

To answer your other question, how can such images of nonphysicals appear on a Skype video chat screen...I would say that they can appear because they have figured out how to help make it so.  I think part of it may be due to our own consciousness perceiving and then having an experience of SEEING it there, and that would maybe add to the actual creating it as so.  Then you take into account that nonphysicals can also impress their energy onto things, as we know, such as appearing in a photograph or on tape, and many other forms of technology. 

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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:05pm
 
Bruce,

"[...]images of nonphysical beings shop up on recordings."

Are the ads on the forum getting to you?

I've seen very weird things and been a bit curious about how and why some projections I saw were on tv-screens. Been a computer guy since childhood but less and less impressed by the tool which is technology. It works out for carolene, but generally I find the more tech dependent people get they seem to lose touch with non-physical attributes.
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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:19pm
 
Vicky said: "I always say that my Guidance always knows what I'm thinking, feeling, or doing and communicates with me through whatever means can get my attention in those focuses, because that's where I'm focusing my conscious awareness at the moment."

Recoverer responds: "Related to the above, I believe that guidance can have quite a comprehensive viewpoint. For example, one morning I was meditating, I heard a voice say, "Get ready for an earthquake," and then an earthquake took place.

Yesterday morning I was meditating, I heard a voice say, "I'm sorry," and then an earthquake took place.

One time I was driving and I heard voice tell me to take a look at something behind me I wasn't aware of, I looked, and received an answer to a question I had.

One time I was walking in the office I work in, I was shown a stop sign, I stopped, and then a lady came barreling around the corner. If I would not have stopped we would've had a collision and she has a bad back.

One morning I was meditating and I experienced myself in my car slamming my car brakes while my car was on a particular part of a freeway I commute on. This nonphysical experience ended just before I made contact with the car in front of me. That morning when I drove to work and was on the above part of the freeway I didn't drive in the fast lane as I usually do because I figured my experience might be a warning. A four car accident took place in the fast lane right in the  area I was warned about.

I've had other experiences that have shown me that my guidance knows about things in this World that I don't know about.

 

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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:35pm
 
recoverer wrote on Oct 28th, 2011 at 4:19pm:
I've had other experiences that have shown me that my guidance knows about things in this World that I don't know about.



Yes!  Those are excellent examples of what I mean. 
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Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 5:03pm
 
consider the fact that this so-called "physical" world here is a dream world.
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Reply #7 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 7:46pm
 
There are a lot of screen recorder (including for skype itself I guess) software which allow to record video (and audio too). I would recommend to setup such equipment. Video files can be reedited to remove unwanted sections, and achieved results - can be published for example via youtube.

It does not surprises me, that nonphysicality can interact with skype-similar software. Signal that goes through is: a) received by the webcam (local noise interference patterns), b) coded-and-transmited via internet, which allows to "adjust" the video artifacts related to encoding/transmission process. The last thing is the level of adaptability of human perception to semi-signals to a level that allows to perceive "specific" meaning. I agree, that some pictures are the result of brain illusions, but at the same time - I point, that perceiving (recognizing) such illusions in a particular way - is inspired.

A lot about non-physicality is also about non-locality (person does not looks like a person, but rather like a "cloud"...) and networking (...of connections). "Pictures" and "voices" are the results of interactions between sophisticated networks. We, the "I'am a person" - get only a simplified summary of that (-;

Give me a few minutes to see what will be the simplest way.

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I'm not sure yet whether this records bi-directional (both videos). If not - your friend would have to record the video and send you then via skype.

But... if these pictures emerge during coding/transmission protocol - she would have to record her video stream, and then send you back as a file.
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Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 7:58pm
 
My feeling is that the spirit World came before the physical World so beings in the spirit World have ways of interacting with what is referred to as physical matter.

When I think of the way I help with retrievals, there might be some limitations. Or perhaps it isn't practical for a higher level being to extend itself to this World and lower realms. It is more practical for people who are incarnated in this World to take care of certain responsibilities.

Also, when I think of how I communicate with spirit beings there are some limitations.
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Reply #9 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 8:00pm
 
Or maybe dream Worlds are realer than we think. If everything ultimately comes from source, is anything completely unreal? Smiley


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Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2011 at 8:34pm
 
...and answering to your second question.

"Coherence" is something, that describes co-operating patterns. For example - recently on wiki I found, that they diminished the Frequency Following Response for binaural beats. But on the other hand - layered binaural beats - are coherent patterns and noise reshaping carriers. Maybe FFR is not signifficant at all, but coherence is, and coherent sounds drive coherent neural responses.

Coherence is a word used for consciousness. If the "noise" describes random traffic of, let say "the E/M field" (emotional/mental), coherence describes the emergence of patterns within it. Coherence may emerge on different levels of signal organization, not only in frequency/amplitude terms, but also complexity, like the old analog TV screen with less vivid picture and a lot of noise on it.

Now - I would distinguish here two things. Coherence does not have to be connected to specific specialization. If people see vivid images or hear sounds or allow their "human instrument" to produce or re-transmit energetical phenomenons - this are the "specializations", in which coherence may be or may not be involved. Coherence produces quality, like between noise and pattern or fabulary and documentary. Specialization produces perception or creation, pattern recognition or pattern production or both at the same time, to get the final result - contextual and local "meaning".

From "outside" - consciousness seems to be reshaped pattern of intention. From "inside" - living experience. The only conflict between - is on the mental level, but the mental mind is not the core of us, isn't it?

In short terms (-;

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Reply #11 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 8:01am
 
Planet: That Pendulum video is gorgeous. Thanks for posting the link.
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Reply #12 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 9:24am
 
There is an astral plane where all the cartoon characters are! I suppose that sounds crazy.   
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Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 10:08am
 
I think this is a very interesting thread.   

I look on it as our basic state is that of mind/consciousness.  When we are in the physical plane, our spiritual senses, begin to conform to the agreed on plane we are in (sight, taste, smell, hearing, touch).  We construct "bodies" from the womb which interact with the plane we are in.  And, I fell that as we are immersed in our new home in the physical, we take it that these senses and perception are what is "real," as they are common and reproducible. 

Yet all the interpretation of sensory data occurs on our primary plane, the plane of the mind/consciousness.  Do I see the color red the same as you do?  Think about it for a moment.  We agree that physical phenomenon have reproducible traits, but I don't really "see" the color red, my consciousness receives data and perceives it.  For all I know, some of you, are truly seeing something quite different when you "see" the color red.

If consciousness is our primary or true state, and we are willingly encased in the physical world, using physical senses, then what does this tell us about Carolene's experience?  Somehow, she found the extra physicals first on a mental plane, through non-physical perception.  Before she saw them on Skype, she knew they surrounded the person.  How is this?  Because she formed a mental image, and in that image she saw them.  She interacted with the nonphysicals.  Next, because of the correlation of real time sensory data with an open channel of non-physical real time data, the two images were merged in her interpretive mind.  Once she knew, with deep conviction what her nonphysical sense "saw," she had opened up another channel of a data stream for her mind to use. 

I liken this as watching a movie with the sound on your computer turned off, and then suddenly turning the sound switch on, and beginning to "hear" what is being said.  In her mind, the extra-physicals were found and contacted.  As this contact or data stream strengthened, she was then able to "see" them in real time - perhaps without anyone else being able to do the same (unless another person tuned in with their minds first). 

If mind is primary, and sensory data is not just coming in from our five earthly senses, then we must account for the integration of extra-sensory data.

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Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2011 at 2:20pm
 
  Well said Matthew, and in a holistic manner.
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