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Reply #45 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 5:28pm
 
Beau wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 4:04pm:
There are Street Preachers who say virtually no gets to Heaven. Should I believe them? I think not. A saint is still a human being given to exaggeration at times.


This gave me a laugh, those street preachers are ridiculous!
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Reply #46 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 3:31pm
 
Why would these things happen though if catholicism wasnt the truth?

The mary appiritions brought messages of 'only catholicism is the truth'  'pray the rosary daily'  'visions of hell'.

It frightens me alot, im going on holiday next monday and i want it cleared up!
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Reply #47 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 4:33pm
 
If you believe it is the truth then the apparitions you see will most likely be telling you what you expect. I don't put much stock in a religious person telling me that their religion is the ONLY one, but someone who isn't religious at all who has an experience such as a visit from an apparition...well that I'm more inclined to listen to.
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Reply #48 - Oct 6th, 2011 at 6:20am
 
Don't take this the wrong way, JDee, but you are clearly not open to understanding that miraculous events and healings are found all over the world and in different religions (although those found in christianity are among the best documented and widely available).  Miracles and healings do not always come from without, but from within ordinary people.  It is the power of thought bound with conviction to create realities that defy the odds.  This power is within you, but only if you discover it yourself.

The idea that miracles were not synonymous with holiness was well known to Jewish rabbis.  Warnings in the old testament caution not to assume that wondrous events signal a divine origin.

I gave you a reference to various miracles cited in Judaism, and also mentioned that there are many many stories of healings and miracles found in Buddhist and Hindu shrines, with many visitors making long pilgramages, yet you seem to not understand, and keep asking the same question.

My guess is that you have been preached to, and had fear instilled in you, and that until you understand that you have your own blocks/fear to overcome and do the research yourself, you will never get the answer you seek.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you keep writing the same question, despite very good responses.

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Reply #49 - Oct 6th, 2011 at 12:24pm
 
I have not took it the wrong way Doc! It actually helped me more than any other.

I prefer the answers I recieve here, they represent God as loving and caring.

In contrast I have asked about it on religion forums and they quote Bible/Quran and give me frightening answers such as the miracles are the Antichrist trying to decieve people and God will punish them with eternal Hell.

Really, what a great God that is? And they expect me to love him? NO CHANCE.

Oh well i will try to enjoy my holiday lol
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Reply #50 - Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:24am
 
One thing I dont get about the Mary appiritions though is that in every onde she appears as a pale white northern european.

Would the actual virgin mary not have been a dark Palestinian?
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Reply #51 - Oct 7th, 2011 at 6:53am
 
Beau wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 4:33pm:
If you believe it is the truth then the apparitions you see will most likely be telling you what you expect. I don't put much stock in a religious person telling me that their religion is the ONLY one, but someone who isn't religious at all who has an experience such as a visit from an apparition...well that I'm more inclined to listen to.


I understand what you mean but many of the appiritions happened to children and mary came out of nowhere.

Lourdes and Fatima happened with children and she appeared to them MANY times.

Saint Bernadette, the one who seen Mary at Lourdes, died over 100 years ago and her body is incorrupt and has not decayed one bit, surely not a coincidence?
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