dont be so scared jdee god will take u before the end times happen which is known as the rapture only the wicked will be left behind to face the end days love dianna123

1. We can enjoy a little fear. That is understandable. It excites the nerves and sharpens the senses. Beyond a certain limit though, it becomes less fun and more unpleasant, and then requires our good management. We can also enjoy a laugh, gain a lighthearted lift, at someone else's minor missfortune. Often I have seen a fellow workman hit his thumb with a hammer, or turn about with a beam and hit another on the head. As long as no one is seriously injured then such little accidents can be funny, even uplifting and can put a sparkle in the day - when they happen to some else that is. And even when they happen to ourself they can be funny a little later, in retrospect. Of course when someone is seriously hurt or injured it is not funny at all. Most of us realise that, but some people don't; they are amused by awful things that happen to others. This unhealthy tendency can even creep into a person's "spirituality", to the extent that they feel uplifted, comforted, special, at the thought of others suffering at the consequences of their own wrongs, and themselves in comparison not having to suffer. Such an attitude is extreme and unhealthy. It is seen in certain people who think themselves amongst the best people just because they have stuck a certain label on themselves.    
   
2. Jesus Christ did not come to scare anyone, he came to teach us what is good for us. He brought good news. The news of love and forgiveness, and its potential for health, well being and human progress. In the Gospels we read where he made mention of the changes and cycles of life. The destruction of the old; its replacement with the new. This destruction and replacement is an ongoing, ever occurring process. It happens individually, socially, planetarily. The "rapture" or the "taking up" is happening now and everywhere to everyone, and always has been. Look at your own life and see how your old forms (values, priorities, thoughts, behaviours) crumble and fall apart as you progress through life and perceive and realise higher and better truths. You are not the same person you were 5 or 10 years ago. The old one is crumbling away, a new one is emerging. This happens even without our effort, as a result of life, error, consequence. But this change for better can be sped up, through being consciously practiced by the individual. Jesus taught us a system of rapid change and growth. He taught us the path of love, through Christ, the Spirit of Love for Earth. He taught that when one tunes one's heart with love, and breathes and lives in love for others, then rapid change occurs within the individual. The old character/buildings/forms/structure/values/thinking/behaviour crumble and fall away, and are replaced with new structures of light. This is the rapture, the taking up. It happens within.   

Dianna, there are many boards out in cyber space that cater to that belief system. It will be a hard row to hoe to change anyone's opinion on it here.

Dianna, fellow Christians, and others who might be interested,

As a long time Christian and having held office in ministry, I am familiar with many of the faces and interpretations of our religion. It is indeed a true and beautiful religion. It has a wonderful essence of love, a layered system of education and understanding, with a myriad of avenues through its layers to its essence. Within its vast fields it has a path of rapid progress suitable for everyone. The code of living and relating to others, as laid out in the Founder's words, is the code of goodwill and love and helpfulness for others. It is the code of true progress. There is no higher code available for man to live by, and there never will be. Its achievements for individuals and for the world as a whole, in the 2000 years since its introduction has been phenomenal, a true wonder. Christianity, when understood and realised, is not a belief system; it is the truth.      

But to know its essence and its truth, we must dive below the superficial layers. Christianity is firstly a religion of the heart. And that is all it need be. It is just love. And love's assistant, helpfulness. 

That warm feeling that wells up in our heart and wishes well for others, whoever they may be - that is love. That love we feel for your fellow man is not our love, it is not made or conjured or generated by our self. It is a living energy, a living spirit that moves through our heart when we tune our heart with it. That spirit's name is Christ; it is the Spirit of Love for Earth. It envelopes our planet and flows through any heart that tunes itself with it. Jesus came to teach us how to utilise this spirit, how to tune our hearts with love. The example of the life of Jesus, his helpfulness to others, his goodwill and love for all, provides for us an automatic tuning mechanism by which our hearts are tuned with love. We only have to think of Jesus and of his teachings of love and goodwill, and Christ the spirit of love begins to move within and through our heart. And love is our pathway home, it is the draw of God; the radiance of God, the offspring of God. Ask for anything in Jesus name, in the name of Christ - in the spirit of love for others - and the forces of destiny align with you.       

Dive below the superficial layers of our religion, below the fences and rails that line the races, below the prongs and corners designed to hedge and corral those who can see no deeper than the surface of things. Look not so much at the structure but at where these structures prompt your feet to step. Peel back the layers of paint that form the image of Christianity that you see, and look behind the scenes at the living essence underneath.

Seek to access and understand Christianity through your heart, and this wonderful religion will come to life for you. And you will see that the teachings of Jesus - the way of love - is not a belief system at all, but is the true and only way to God.     

Beau,

If it is a belief system, one would have to believe in it. That's the beauty of it. One does not have to believe in it. One only has to be exposed to its story and its teachings, and it begins to work its effect upon the individual.

It is unlike other religions. It is not a belief system. It is a formulae, a designed method of accelerated human progress. Compare the BC social values, human relations, and individual & collective consciousness of pagan Europe to India and China. Where did Europe stand then in comparison to those two great civilisations? After 2000 years of Christianity in Europe, compare Europe again to India and China. Are your eyes open or closed? 

The beauty of Christianity is that you don't have to believe in it. If you know of it, if you are exposed to its story and its teachings, you progress, your spirituality is accelerated. Even if you don't know of it, but others near you do, it has its effect upon your soul. All over the world are Atheists, Agnostics, Adherents to other religions, whose souls are accelerating for no other reason than the presence of Christianity on the planet. 

You don't have to identify yourself as a Christian Beau. You are riding its wave anyway, absorbing its truths, reaping its benefits. Within it you live and move and have your being, whether you like it or not. It is for the soul what oxygen is for the body. You can deny it, but you are still breathing it, and living and growing because of it.

Kind regards,

crossbow



   

Beau,

I love your reply. It makes me laugh so heartily, but I am not laughing at you, but at the a big joke that I can see and wish that I could share with you. And I love your fire. I wish I could show you what I have seen, and take you out and about with me, so that you can see for yourself that what I have written is true, but I cannot. You have your life; I have mine.

Do you think I am the believing type? Do you think I would adhere to an unknown conviction? Do you think I cannot differentiate between belief and knowledge? Have you read a previous post where I stated what I can do? Do you think I am lying or deluded? I speak not from belief. And not because I have been informed. I speak from knowledge; from pure unadulterated experience. For me my lives pass by like the days of the week do for you. My body is like today's suit of cloths is for you. I look back through my lives like the chapters of a book. To me it is one long life, with trips home inbetween. I leave my body as I am required to do so, in sleep, in meditation, when walking, talking. I can stretch, reach, re-locate, scan, travel. I visit the places where truth can be seen. I have met with people and life forms who are behind the effects as seen from Earth. And I have visited the places where history is seen and heard. I have visited ancient libraries where Earth's great writings are kept, and read the ancient writings, viewed the ancient pictures. My eyes can see right through what looks solid to you. And yes, you are right, it is like a hologram. Your eyes can do so too, if you knew how to make them do it. From one place on earth I can look right through and round this planet, watch it breathe and pulse, and see out in space as well, and through the layers and the frequencies. I tell you this to plant a seed of thought, and that seed of thought is this: I am not who I am and can do what I do because I believe in things. To the contrary, if I were a believer, then I could not do what I can do. I only observe things as they are. Before I know, I do not even hold a preference. What is, is all I value. That is how I do what I do.

Do you believe me? Careful. Do you believe a person can do what I can do? Or do you disbelieve me? Think, what sort of a forum community is this? Again, do you disbelieve me?

Now, what about this forum community. I read you don't like belief systems. Yet I see you are enmeshed in beliefs of your own. You believe in Bruce Moen and Robert Monroe, and in what they have told you about reality. You believe in more than you know. That is why you cannot do what I can do. 

Crossbow said: "Do you think I am the believing type? Do you think I would adhere to an unknown conviction?"

Recoverer responds: "Remember when you judged Justin and I to be vegetarian fundamentalists? If you could see into our hearts you would know that we aren't vegetarians for the reasons you stated. Therefore, I believe you are capable of having beliefs because your statements about us weren't based on experience.

I doubt that Jesus would rebuke Justin and I as you did because he probably understands why we are vegetarians.

jdee190 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 5:33pm:



How come you are on the Bruce Moen afterlive forum and you believe Christian believesystems? Did you read his books about the afterlife? proof enough it seems to me.
Why are youy afraid of other peoples believesystems? Why don't you ask your Higher Self for the proper answer.?  Seems very strange this for me, your fear.
Iris