Can anyone help me here, i have read from many Christians that we are nearing end times, one of the big signs being the arab spring. Also Saint Malachy's prophecy about the last Pope. Things like the Tribulation, Antichrist and rapture scare the heck out of me

Hello Jdee,
Christians come in all sorts. Don't let those funny ones disturb you. They can get a little side tracked at times. (I am a Christian too - have been for quite a while...) I hope it helps you for me to assure you there is nothing to fear, most especially about the supposed end of the world. Christianity is about love and helpfulness, not about scaring people by telling them the end of the world is coming. Right through history fear mongers of all persuasions have been saying the end of the world is coming, but wars, famines, plagues, catastrophes, have come and gone, millenniums have rolled over, dates with repeated digits have passed, comets have flown by, planets have lined up and unlined, astrological configurations have occurred, etc, etc, etc, and always the fear mongers were running about saying the end of the world is nigh. They are doing the same now just as they always have done. They love to pretend their forecasting the end of the world is attributed to their having more wisdom, foresight or virtue than others. But all they really have more of is emotional reactionism. Such emotionally reactive types, whether they be Christians, Atheists, Environmentalists, or others, like to scare other people and threaten them with the world coming to an end.

The fear mongers have always been with us, and probably always will be. There are plenty of them amongst us at present, and due to social changes through the 1900's and a current pc society that encourages them, they have wound up at the forefront of social directing. It was not long ago that those who walked about saying the world is ending were seen as loonies; now they own the media, run our education systems, and have infiltrated politics.

Don't let the fear mongers disturb you, ignore their rumours and gossip about the world ending - or that it might end if we don't buy funny light bulbs. We can smile politely at them and let them have their little fear fantasy. They can be a source of amusement that can bring a little humour to our days.

Rather than swinging with the emotionally reactive ones, we are better to cultivate a composed and reasonable approach to life, value facts, truth, and reason, and be kind to those around us - even to the fear mongers, bless their hearts.

        

jdee190 wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 5:33pm:



  Whether or not these "predictions" are true or not, is not really what's important here. 

What's important is that you learn how to deal with your fears.  One of the ways you can do this, is by learning experientially that what you are is NOT your body, that you are a consciousness that is eternal. 

   So, should anything happen that destroys your physical vehicle that you are temporarily using, YOU will still survive.

   If this is true, what is there to really fear then?   Bruce Moen teaches some effective tools and methods to figure out that the nonphysical exists and that your consciousness exists beyond your physical body.


   While many of these Christian predictions are off (in my experience of seeing/knowing psychically), there are more reliable and verified type psychic sources which do talk about  Earth changes, though none of these ever say it's the "end of the world". 

Rather these sources say that our civilization structure will collapse under the weight of it's destructiveness and that there will be some pretty significant geological, solar, and cosmic changes, and a number of sources have said this has happened many times in the past.   Well, humanity is still here despite these past civilization collapses and Earth changes, and if you could see into the future probabilities, you would see that these coming collapses are Phoenix type events. 

  Out of the ashes of the old and decayed, will humanity rise to heights it hasn't collectively seen in many thousands and thousands of years. 

This degree of collective spiritual development is greatly to be desired, and i for one welcome whatever will facilitate these kind of positive, long term developements.

   Can you imagine a world, a still basically physical world, our Earth, wherein all the humans alive treat each other with kindness, respect, and everyone experiences a peace and inner joy.  A world free of all the inhumanity that we daily enact towards each other. 

This is what is probably coming, but in order for this to happen, all the corrupt power structures, the world banking system, the military complexes, all the greedy, selfish, fear based institutions and groups etc. all have to be brought low, and all has to start afresh with no destructive and materialistic chains around the neck of humanity.

  Just simply a rebirth, a regeneration.  Yeshua (Jesus) did speak of these coming developments, but unfortunately, like with many of his messages, they have been twisted.

  I recommend communicating with him directly about this and any other subject, as my own experience has taught me that he is one of the most knowledgeable, aware, clearly perceiving, and wise Beings out there.   It's because he is truly pure Love incarnate and personified (and nothing expands perception and awareness like attunement to PUL).   (Some of the earth changes info that i have received, have been from him). 

As far as I'm concerned Dawkins and Hawking stating that the afterlife doesn't exist is similar to a fish in a pond stating that the top of Mount Everest doesn't exist. How would a fish know about what exists at the top of Mound Everest?

I believe it is completely irresponsible and "IGNORANT" for them to scare people with their intellect-based nonsense. I doubt that either of them is humble enough to question their limited way of questioning things. People with high IQs sometimes become so impressed with themselves that they can't question their beliefs. Instead, they use their intellects to fortify their false beliefs. As far as they are concerned there is no way somebody could know better than they know. They'll find out soon enough and have some regrets.

Regarding the Book of revelations, some Biblical scholars believe that it pertains to what was going on during the time period when it was written. John, the author of Revelations, had to write in a symbolic way so the Romans wouldn't be able to figure out what he was tyring to communicate to the Christians from the time period.  For example, the seven heads of the dragon refer to seven hills in Rome and seven kings.  The ten horns refer to ten future kings and ten provinces of the Roman Empire.

The antichrist that is referred to with the number 666 is actually Emperor Nero Caesar. In Hebrew, Nero Caesar’s name was Nrwn Qsr – n,e,r,o,n; q,s,r. Archaeological findings show that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero’s name provides the value of 666. Some Biblical manuscripts read 616. The difference between 666 and 616 isn’t the result of an accident, because the two aren’t similar in appearance in the original Greek. However, a strong case can be made that John (the author of Revelation), a Jew, used Hebrew in order to spell Nero’s name and resultantly came up with 616. It is hard to believe that it is just mere coincidence that whether you use 666 or 616 it is reasonable to conclude that Revelation 13:18 refers to Nero.

Going by the spirit messages I have received about Earth changes we'll go through some difficult times and then the World will become a very positive place.

Hello, me again.

I'd like to add that somebody like Hawking might claim that he isn't afraid of the fact that he will some day die. Yeah, yeah, I also went through such a period of denial. I closed myself off from the part of myself that was concerned about my mortality. Fortunately, I reached the point where I allowed myself to be aware of my suppressed concern. After many experiences I am now certaint that the afterlife exists. Thank goodness I decided to find out because it sure makes a difference!

Jdee,

Let me clarify my previous post,

What I am saying is not that I disagree or am against science itself but I don't like how some of it is done. They are not totally at fault either imho as the media are as much to blame for jumping on what they say to publish a story to garner more attention for themselves. They love nothing more than to cause people misery, I'm certain of this.

What I mean about the way some science is done is dishonesty, they don't like to admit that they could be wrong or that they simply don't know something. Some religious practices work the same too, which is why some people go from being churchgoers to atheists.

Science is like a religion to me because of the way people follow it and they won't take anything other than that seriously. They don't realise that they are just taking someone else's word for what they BELIEVE in, sheep is what they are. So tbh it's the followers who are more to blame than the scientists. It reminds me of religion.

I was a bit harsh on Hawking in my last post as the thing he said not long ago was him expressing his opinion, which he is more than entitled to do but the media blow it out of proportion and it all seems that he is the bad guy, he's not I do respect him, who wouldn't after what he has lived with for so long?

However, I won't apologise for saying this about Richard Dawkins. He is in the same league as Harold Camping and  any other nutjob out there in the public eye imo. He loves the sound of his own voice too much for me and I have met many people like this in my short life. They seem to think they are above other people and their opinions are better than everyone else's, they're not. To me everyone is equal bar murderers, rapists etc.

It doesn't matter if you are the wealthiest man in the world or the poorest, it's what's inside that counts. Also just because someone who is in the public eye is said to be intelligent due to their "work" doesn't make it so. Intelligence is so much more than that.

Intelligence can't be measured, it is widely accepted that it can but no it can't.

Just because someone is good at one thing doesn't mean they're good at something else, I know a lot about fixing cars but that doesn't mean I can go and operate on somebody or work at NASA, does it?

Dawkins should change his surname to cranium and start using the shorter version of his forename  .

Please don't take my posts as an attack at you for asking questions, there's nothing wrong with them, they are perfectly reasonable.

In another post I mentioned self belief, what I meant was see yourself as equal, even to the so called elite, then you will start to see the world for how it really is, from your own point of view and not someone else's. You're still young but be patient and it will start to come in time, I wasn't like this from birth or even at your age, it takes time.

Andy

Recoverer,

You are right there as someone in his position does know that people will believe him even though it's just his opinion and nothing more.

Yes he should be more careful in what he says but on the other hand the media don't help the situation, also the people who believe it when they don't like it should know better really.

Just my take on it and tbh I go easy on him due to his predicament, it's not a good situation to be in you must admit?

Andy

jdee190 wrote on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 3:54pm:


  I can't really help you with this, and neither can anyone else here.  You need to have your own expereinces.

  I can tell you that i've had experiences, which while they did not prove to me that i'm eternal, since i haven't experienced eternity consciously, or if i have, i've forgotten it, i've had experiences which have shown me that my consciousness existed before this life. 

  I've had verified "past life" info and experience.   So, i imagine that if my consciousness has survived the life and death of other bodies, then chances are most likely it will survive this life and death, and probably is or at least comes close to being "eternal".