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Re: What are Aspects of Self?
Reply #15 - Jun 25th, 2011 at 8:01am
 
betson, thanks for the Explorer Tape link. I 've listened to tape #4 and # 29
about Aspects. At the same time interesting, both tapes are difficult to understand
and get out solid info from. If anyone has a condensation of those tapes
I would be most grateful, as re-listening to the tapes wears me down.

I got the advice to look up Seth material too, which is on my to-do list.

I wonder if anyone else has any other sources for Aspect of Self info.

I start to wonder if my view of Aspects have turned into a belief, which locks me.
It's strange that Monroe never wrote anything about Aspects of Self in his books.
Maybe even TMI doesn't have a definition of what Aspects of Self are?
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Re: What are Aspects of Self?
Reply #16 - Jun 26th, 2011 at 11:13pm
 
Pauli,

I wouldn't so much focus on the image of a soul, as a well-defined piece of matter like a scupture, from which pieces can split off to the effect that the bigger piece of it is now incomplete and the smaller part is "lost".

The best to benefit from the aspect-model is to look at it psychologically, as traits, beliefs and habits together with suppression and incongruencies.

I once in a meditation had a very uncomfortable (to say at the least) experience. It was like I was torn apart, torn into pieces, causing the greatest amount of fear, the fear of death, extinction. But I'm still here, and this taught me something: I, as a physical person, exist as a lumped-together conglomerate of conditioned parts. It is the very core of meditation to become aware of it, and to go deeper and explore what is behind this surface.

In this sense, I echo Doc's statement. But Beau's is true as well I find. In my retrieval experiences I, too, had the impression that they had much to do with myself. I'm not certain if I actually retrieved aspects of myself, but nevertheless, through this work I became more aware of how my own mind is conditioned through my life here on the earth.

Seen from a far distance from physical life there is no reason to be concerned about "missing" aspects. We usually just don't have this perspective on a regular basis, unfortunately.

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Reply #17 - Jun 27th, 2011 at 3:36am
 
spooky2 wrote on Jun 26th, 2011 at 11:13pm:
I once in a meditation had a very uncomfortable (to say at the least) experience. It was like I was torn apart, torn into pieces, causing the greatest amount of fear, the fear of death, extinction. But I'm still here, and this taught me something: I, as a physical person, exist as a lumped-together conglomerate of conditioned parts. It is the very core of meditation to become aware of it, and to go deeper and explore what is behind this surface.


  I had a somewhat similar experience.  I remembered a very vivid dream wherein i was outside meditating while looking at the Sun.  As i looked at the Sun, but also went deeper inside myself during the meditation, i felt myself merging with the Sun.

   At first it was downright almost scary because i felt myself expand so much that in a way it felt like i was being torn to pieces so to speak.  There was primarily the fear of the loss of self/individual self awareness.

  Rather it was that i was expanding so much and so quickly.  In the dream, i decided to just go with the flow, and to my pleasant surprise realized mentally the above expanding process, and realized i still had a sense of self awareness, but was just a much more expanded awareness than the "previous" self.   With that, there was intense feelings of a lot of joy , at peaceness, and sense of great power (power to co-create i guess).

  (i think the dream was both a learning and preparatory message/experience)

   
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Reply #18 - Jun 28th, 2011 at 4:40am
 
The best to benefit from the aspect-model is to look at it psychologically, as traits, beliefs and habits together with suppression and incongruencies.

Fascinating, and well put. When I first read Bruce's take on it I thought it was something to apply personally and then to perhaps to work with other people to use it as the most tailored tool for them.

But having read other authors take on aspects, it all gets a little complicated. Should we really bring together other aspects of ourselves from this life and other lifetimes, or is it better to let them go. Why did they go in the first place?

It seems as if lots of experience of this type of exploration is the only way to discern between aspects of self/others and their purpose/nature.
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Reply #19 - Jun 29th, 2011 at 9:03pm
 
From my own experiences, and from much what I've read, to become aware of aspects of one's self is a byproduct of meditation (and every practice similar to meditation). One might view scenes in which there is one person who the viewer suddenly identifies as him/herself (and might call it a past-life), or is engaged in a retrieval with lots of emotions, showing some parallels to his/her own life, or one finds oneself confronted with memories or imaginations of/concerning the own present life, showing typical examples of specific roles. All these are, of course, problematic, as they are a challenge to our ego.
   Curiously, meditation and similar practices do have effects which are seemingly the exact opposite, like the experience Justin told of; I, too, had an experience which started at night with an immense feeling of expansion. I had become free of any worries, concerns, anxieties etc. The next day I saw my surrounding as truely MY surrounding, being a part of me. This experience is one which could be characterized as integrative, while the other is one of explicative, which naturally brings about the possibility of exclusive tendencies.

   The second, integrative experience is traditionally called Samadhi (India) or Satori (Japan) (in my case a minor one); from what I've heard, in these traditions this enhanced awareness of these opposites is known as common during/after every meditational work, until the mystical step has been taken whereafter these opposites are seen through and no longer are recognized as opposites, but appearances of one and the same.

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