recoverer wrote on May 23rd, 2011 at 5:37pm:Justin:
I considered the possible future factor, yet I still felt it was worthwhile to bring up what Courtney wrote. Howard Storm and Ned Dogherty wrote about positive changes they learned about as if they are very definitely are going to happen, because this is what divine will wants.
At least with Storm (i don't fully remember Dougherty's account right now), it seems like Guidance knew that he would reach more to the fundamentalist, religious types, and so the information had to be packaged in a certain way to some extent.
My experience with some fundamentalist, religious types is that they often have a more black and white mindset wherein they lack a subtly of perception and interpretation. If Storm had gone into depth about the relativity of future time-lines to a more detailed, complex, and in depth degree, perhaps this would have confused some of his readers or general audience?
Also, sometimes Guidance will stress something so we believe more strongly in it (even if it's only a probability), in order to help make it a reality. It's called "positive suggestion". Act or speak as if the change you (or they) want to see is already a reality, even though we're dealing with a fluid and to some extent dependent on the freewill choices and actions of people, future.
In any case, most NDE's dealing with the issue of the future state that what develops, report that it is often up to us and our collective and individual choices and ways of living.
Many psychic sources also state similar. The Divine can want something all It wants, but if we refuse to be on board, then such positive changes aren't necessarily going to happen. We are an active participants necessary in co-creating such futures.
That's the whole meaning of "freewill", and rarely does the Divine interfere in a direct manner to change how and what we choose. Instead, usually and most often Divine forces try to guide and influence to choose the wisest and most beneficial.
Storm was most likely seeing and recounting a probable future, and was told or interpreted in a manner most helpful to the audience he was going to reach out to. There is also the problem and question of misinterpretation and skewing of such fast vibratory info downloads. Besides the very issue of language, there is also the ever present factor of interpreter overlay and skewing which is so common.
For example, some of his info contradicts McKnights info and the info we (Becky & i) have received about probable future time lines.
Both above sources indicate that for about 700 years or so, though not immediately right after the collapse, we will be involved with technology like anti gravity craft, advanced space stations, etc. before we start to drop all technology and become totally intune with all consciousness and become the "H Plus" humans that Monroe saw for some point around the 3500 or so mark.
Yet, Storm saw us living like the Native Americans, but a even more spiritualized version, soon and long after the collapse and didn't see advanced, E.T. like, technology being involved with our near and further future.
Whose right? Two similar sources, or one different? Did Storm perceive everything 100 percent correctly? Does any source that we know of out there do that?
The only way truly around this issue (interpreter overlay skewing info received), imo so far, is to become a pure channel and living expression of PUL to the nth degree, and merge your consciousness with the All. But even then, when communicating with words, language acts as a barrier and skewing agent.
Quote: On the other hand I have received two messages that made the point that abductions have been done by unfriendly aliens. One said most. If what I received represents the truth, then it is hard to see how numerous Grey related abductions that serve a positive purpose fit in.
No doubt with the first message.
Now isn't the 2nd message curious when it said that "most" abductions are done by negative E.T.'s?
When, where, and who are the exceptions?
Again, you are assuming, and lumping all Greys into the same category with comments like the above. Brown clearly and repeatedly saw that this was not the case with these time travelers. That different groups from different times were interacting with humans. Clearly he saw that some Grey groups were more spiritually evolved than others.
Is it possible that some Grey groups, say further past ones, do more abductions with humans than say the latter, more evolved groups?
Is it possible that some supposedly "Grey" abductions were not performed by Greys to begin with, but people were given false memories by either the Reptilians or even the U.S. government?
Btw, not mentioned yet is that when it comes to abductions, a number of people have reported that abductions are not just being done by E.T.'s, but also by factions of black op government groups.
It is also commonly reported that like the Reptilians, the human groups doing abductions try to wipe out, manipulate, and/or generally alter a person's memory.
In a number of cases through deep and intensive hypnotherapy, it's been reported that a supposedly "E.T. abduction" was actually done by a human group, but the human group tried to implant a false memory/perception about it! Boy, doesn't it all become rather complex and twisted with all these various factors and factions involved in "abductions"??!!
So, let's not automatically assume that all "Grey abductions" were actually done by Greys, or that all Grey groups are created equal and all doing the same amount and type of abductions.
Perhaps, perhaps, and
this relates to your 2nd message, it's possible that some of the abductions that don't fit in the "most" involving "negative" E.T.'s, are done by a well intentioned, latter more evolved Grey group(s)?
Could the occasional abductions, by the latter, more evolved Grey groups be the exception to the rule you got a message about?
What other group would that apply to?