What happens to people who commit suicide? I heard from Browne that they are forced to come back. Is this true?

Might this simply be Sylvia Browne's belief system at work here?
I only point this out because Bob Monroe stated in his 'knowns' that (paraphrasing) 'you have the right to check out on this life without any judgement from any source that matters' (or words to that effect). So what other people believe will be irrelevant to you based on either your belief system or actual knowns, and you won't go through any experience of purgatory if that doesn't exist for you in your personal reality?
So are we ultimately responsible for our choices on that, but there's no comeback?
Just a thought.

Best wishes,
David.

Forced to come back has a guilt-ridden ring to it, and also a 'how dare you' tone to it. It's the experiences that are "holy" not the body/vehicle. A friend chose the way of the rope almost a month ago and found the emotions of the ones here harder to deal with than his choice. I focused in on him and told him I had no idea he had a rough time. As with others I gave him a sort of a map of the astral, an overview of the different areas. He winked out and came back with a thanks before moving on his path. So much for fire and brimstone.

Don, don't we all at some point get to/have to work through the problems we couldn't solve or couldn't bear? 

The evidence I have received is that my daughter who committed suicide is much happier than she was in this life and doing well in the afterlife.  I'm sure that evidence would never satisfy you.  But that doesn't matter.

Sources that seem genuine to me state that suicide isn't a good idea. It isn't a matter of punishment. Rather, your state of mind doesn't automatically become better simply because you move on to the spirit world.

If a person commits suicide because of physical pain,  well, some sources say that our souls choose to experience physical pain for a while because in some way it helps us grow. Perhaps we learn about endurance. If a person in pain commits suicide he might deprive himself of a valuable soul lesson.

"In fact, a suicide is dealt with immediately by the Other Side. The soul is literally forced back into life, with no rest period."

"We see that God loves us enough to provide the best school possible, and forces us to complete our lessons, so that we can graduate and fulfill our own dreams of becoming more like Him and Her." -

Source: http://www.novus.org/home/theotherside.cfm

I find it amusing that "love" and "force" are both used in a one sentence!

Don't you all think it is time to stand up and rebel against the Universe as well as the powers to be (so obvious there are centralized powers - decentralization is just a cover-up to make the powers to be appear more empathetic and fair)?

serenesam wrote on May 23^rd, 2011 at 6:20am:


  You're basing your response on the assumption that Sylvia Browne is correct in her perceptions and beliefs. 

  I for one, don't make that assumption.  I don't find Browne to be all that credible.  Everyone has some psychic ability and intuition to some degree or another.  A true "psychic" is someone who consistently has accurate hits, meaning they have honed their ability, learned to develop clarity and discrimination, and have repeating verifications in a consistent sense both in number and over span of time.   

  There are relatively few people that i know of, which demonstrated this in a very public kind of way.  One example is Edgar Cayce. 

  Browne does not have a good track record for the most part.  Very occasionally, she will get something right, but most people can do that occasionally in the psychic area.  But most people are not in the public spotlight.

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  I have become quite critical of certain national governments, and have come to the awareness that these ideally should be overhauled because they have become far too corrupt and imbalanced. 

However, regarding the nonphysical and the PTB in relation to same, it is a totally different reality and execution of order and structure. 

  Most happens on a "Like attracts and begets Like basis", and because deep down within the core of our consciousness, we remember our Sourceness which is fundamentally and purely positive and loving in nature. 

  When we do things contrary to that fundamental core nature within us, which is often in a physical life, often after the physical life we become aware of the "wrongness" of same. 

   If we are more stuck than not, gentle reminders are given. 

  But no one is literally forced to do anything in the nonphysical by Beings of Light.  Counseled yes, given suggestions yes, given help with planning another life yes, but this is all from the motivation of PUL from within these various Helpers and levels of same. 

  Some people so dislike "authority" in this life, that they transfer these feelings and dislikes to Beings of much more awareness and spiritual maturity in the nonphysical. 

Not only is this "short sighted", but it's an overly materialistic perspective of this process and lacks the awareness of the Divine and the degree that the Divine and those attuned to same, respect freewill.

  If these Divine forces didn't respect freewill, do you think this world we now are fully aware of, would be the way it is? 

If they were of a forceful and controlling nature, the Earth would not be the extreme, polarized, and suffering place it is. 

  It is that way because we are allowed to do pretty much anything we want.  We are learning, so ever slowly, by trial and error, what leads to inner joy and what leads away from it.

  But, what's not well understood by some, mostly immature consciousnesses, is that there are always consequences to our choosing and co-creating. 

These do not come as punishments from outside ourselves, but from the inner awareness because of that original Divine connection and Beingness, that something we did to another or to self was in error and needs to be rectified and balanced if we want to be happier and at peace with ourselves.  This is called our "conscience", that still small voice within that so many in the Earth choose to ignore often.   

  What is the currency of the nonphysical?  Degree of both conscious awareness in general and especially of love (connectedness) and the feeling experience of joy. 

The more spiritually mature one becomes, the more one experiences and "accumulates" these "currencies". 

What's the true currency in this physical world?  It's not really money in it's various material forms.  It also is that same above currency. 

  Deep down, we all, or most of us, want more and more of that currency.  In fact, most of us deep down want to reach the zenith of what we can accumulate in that currency. 

  That is full conscious remerging with our Source/Creative-Creator nature and consciousness.  This includes certain developments.  Full conscious awareness of all consciousness within this Universe--this has been called knowledge and awareness of The Oneness.  The ability to leave this Universe to become a full Co-Creator of other beings, realities, worlds, etc. etc.   Above all, the awareness and ability to experience Love and at peaceness and all the pleasure/joy/contentment associated with these, to the fullest extent. 

  Paper tigers railing against illusionary/distorted perceptions. 

I say none of us has enough information to judge another person/soul one way or the other.  Better to just concentrate on making your own careful deliberate choices, and send only PUL to everyone else, regardless of their choice. 

And anyway, once we start down the road of "this happens or that happens if you commit suicide", then you have to define suicide itself.  What of someone who refuses more cancer treatment after a long battle?  What of the elderly choosing hospice at the end of their life? For that matter, what of people who smoke (suicide) drink heavily (suicide) don't wear their seatbelts (suicide)?

That's why I say don't judge people for their choices.