Seraphis1 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2011 at 1:48pm:An interesting sidebar is that America with a population of +/-300,000,000 if that statistic holds up we should have at least 30 living transcendent beings in our midsts...
I know that Ralph Waldo Emerson was one of them and I think Helen Keller made the cut... but they are deceased.
Oddly enough Bruce Moen went through the aperture...he did it with the help of Monroe... can he do it at will I wonder....???!!!
I find it interesting that when Bob Monroe asked his I/There aka the guidance level part of himself, if he could meet the most mature person living in his time-space reference, he was led to a person who was some 1800 years or so "old" (but looked to be somewhere from the age of 30 to 50), occidental in origin, and apparently already known about in some way.
The really interesting part is the "not recycled" like the rest of us part wherein this person was living one super long continuous in physical lifetime, and also btw doesn't need to sleep or eat at all "Oh, i gave those up years ago." (also the perfectly balanced/merged between masculine and feminine is interesting too, hence the name label of "He/She").
If Bob's account is more true than not, and my intuition and guidance tells me that it is, then I suspect if there is such a thing as "enlightenment", full self or God realization, etc...
...then such a person as "He/She" would truly be an example of that.
Along with Bob's account, i also find it interesting that there are some references in Cayce's work and in Rosiland McKnight's work stating that dying happens from living in an illusionary manner and there are some hints that if a person dispensed with all illusion and purely lived that which is reality then a person would experience
neither aging nor death. More so interesting is the info in the Cayce work that states that Yeshua while he
let himself die temporarily (for 3 days), did recreate or resurrect a body of sorts, one that could interact with others and perceive in a physical like manner.
Rosiland's guidance makes statements like that even before the crucifixion that Yeshua was so spiritually intune, he could fully phase into his "spiritual body", and thus was the reason of why he was known to have disappeared in crowds. In other words, he had full control over all physical energies and reactions.
So i tend to remain a bit skeptical of people and sources telling me that this or that person was enlightened or fully realized when the fact that they have died and/or are aging etc. contradicts some very good sources of nonphysical type info.
I find it quite interesting and telling that almost all of the people that have claimed enlightenment for themselves have either died or continue to age, get sick, and have basic material needs like any other person--like the need to eat, sleep, etc.
But as you may happen be able to tell, i'm not at all skeptical of the reality of enlightenment, and i believe it's a process and capacity open to all.
But I don't think it's well understood and i think there are very, very, very few humans within our historical reference who have completed the full enlightenment. Chances are, if a person died and stayed dead, then they didn't realize complete enlightenment like a He/She or a Yeshua.
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