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Reply #105 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 8:48am
 
Lucy wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:58am:
Maybe a better discussion would involve figuring out why unmarried men in positions of religious authority are attracted to children...mainly boys? or is that just what makes it shocking..



It is the path of the least resistance and easily hidden... they are repressed homosexuals with no other safe outlet. One of the Borgia popes who set off Martin Luther had wild parties in which he had naked little boys pop out of cakes... the sickness has ancient roots.

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Reply #106 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 11:22am
 
Lucy wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:58am:
I brought up the priests in the Catholic clergy scandal because I don't understand why Sai Baba should be singled out for a behavior that is much more widespread. I don't doubt the complaints of the victims. I don't doubt that people at the top knew. This mirrors what has happened in the Catholic Church. Cardinal Brnard Law was scuttled off to Rome just as the legal heat was about to be put his way. Is the Pope not involved?

Maybe a better discussion would involve figuring out why unmarried men in positions of religious authority are attracted to children...mainly boys? or is that just what makes it shocking..

Tonight our local radio talk guru, Dan Rea, was talking about what happened with some parishoners whose physical church buildings were closed and sold to pay damages in the aftermath of the lawsuits. What did they do for Easter? Some had services in other buildings and without a priest.  People are moving on. I wonder how the people around Sai Baba will move on.


"unmarried men"...Hmmmm - good point. I dont understand that anyway. Maybe its because of my love for ying/yang that I cant understand that aspect of the religion, but why exactly do they have to stay unwed?
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Reply #107 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 12:53pm
 
Nanner, The theory is that being unmarried enables one's total attention and energies to be directed towards spiritual matters. It is also a life that provides the opportunity to subjugate or transpose the sexual energies. Unfortunately some fail the test, some even rebound from it in perverted directions. It is a difficult life trial no doubt. And as Seraphis mentioned, there are ancient roots. And ancient inter-personal ties. Strong bonds and shared/mutual mental-emotional constructions are carried by souls from life to life - what the Hindus call Karmic bonds - and these have great repetitive power so that old unfinished relationship lessons and tasks come around again and can be put right, or at least improved a little each time round. Ancient Greece, Rome, Sparta, Arabia, India, China, Africa and other ancient societies have had their debauched periods and subcultures.  
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Reply #108 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 2:02pm
 
Nanner wrote on Apr 29th, 2011 at 11:22am:
Lucy wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:58am:
I brought up the priests in the Catholic clergy scandal because I don't understand why Sai Baba should be singled out for a behavior that is much more widespread. I don't doubt the complaints of the victims. I don't doubt that people at the top knew. This mirrors what has happened in the Catholic Church. Cardinal Brnard Law was scuttled off to Rome just as the legal heat was about to be put his way. Is the Pope not involved?

Maybe a better discussion would involve figuring out why unmarried men in positions of religious authority are attracted to children...mainly boys? or is that just what makes it shocking..

Tonight our local radio talk guru, Dan Rea, was talking about what happened with some parishoners whose physical church buildings were closed and sold to pay damages in the aftermath of the lawsuits. What did they do for Easter? Some had services in other buildings and without a priest.  People are moving on. I wonder how the people around Sai Baba will move on.


"unmarried men"...Hmmmm - good point. I dont understand that anyway. Maybe its because of my love for ying/yang that I cant understand that aspect of the religion, but why exactly do they have to stay unwed?
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It had to do with inheritance... the church was losing too much money and property to the heirs of the priests.

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Reply #109 - Apr 29th, 2011 at 2:16pm
 
That makes the most sense to me, Seraphis.
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Reply #110 - Apr 30th, 2011 at 7:10am
 
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It had to do with inheritance


That is interesting. So much ado was made in the history I read about emulating the pop-start monk ascetics that I failed to consider that aspect.

That is interesting because I think the tradition of marriage exists in part in order to protect the property. This goes far beyond the arranged marriages of the nobility over the course of history, but that is one good example of marriage existing to protect property.

Still in play, too, as you can learn if you ever have the "pleasure" of sitting in probate court and listening to the content of the cases (in US or at least in MA, divorce, inheritance, child custody and support are handled in probate court). It's all about the money.

(That's a cultural level. Probate is a cultural level that affects the individual. I'm not saying people don't really think they love each other when they marry, and some sctually do. That's the personal level.)
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