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Reply #15 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 2:59pm
 
Hi all,

I'm sorry to bring this up again when you say signs, what kind of signs have people experienced from their loved ones who have passed over? I may have had a couple over the past few days, well me and my two cats had one and my partner had the other.

Mine was friday night, I was feeling down and was a bit annoyed at some people so I couldn't pick myself up and I don't think anyone could get through to me if you know what I mean  Wink, I am hot headed by the way if this helps. We went to bed but my partner had forgot her insulin which is in the fridge and asked me to get it for her, I did and when I walked from the kitchen to the living room my partners jacket (which was on my sons folded up playpen against a wall) "fell off" right before my eyes and the cats. When I say fell off it was pulled off as it was draped over it and couldn't possibly fall off on it's own and also the manner of how it happened, the other clue was both of my cats who were resting at the time away from this were staring wild eyed at the area, I've never seen them like this before.

On sunday morning my partner got up before I did and went downstairs, shortly after she came running back up and said one of his toys is on the floor out of his toy box, the toy is a winnie the pooh (which dances when you shake a wand at it) it has a motor in it so it is quite heavy, the reason I'm describing the toy is because the two cats were the only physical beings in the room but they couldn't possibly have done this, due to the weight and also there was another toy resting on this and they would have had to knock this toy on the floor to get to it, this wasn't on the floor it was in the toy box. The T.V stand is next to the box but they couldn't have got it this way as they would have knocked the toy on the floor. I also offered the toy up to one of the cats and he backed off from it which he wouldn't have done if he had done it, I know this from past experience.

Also I have felt my sons presence around me now and again, normally sitting next to me on the sofa and the cats do act very strange at times, again it is unusual for them to be like this, we have had them, one which is a bengal cat for 5 years and a tabby cat for four years which I am very close to so I know when they are down, scared etc.

We also have a dog which is acting different, she won't leave us alone but she is due to have puppies in 2 weeks so I've put it down to this but it could be the same thing as the cats.

Tbh, I'm sharing my experiences here more than needing advice as I know that experiencing something for yourself is an entirely different thing than telling people about them. But I would like to know of other peoples experiences particularly if they are similar to mine but any would be good to hear.

P.S sorry if Iv'e put too much info and bored you all lol. I just wanted to point out that I know my animals, as some people have them and don't know theirs like I know mine.

Thanks, Andy
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Reply #16 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 3:03pm
 
  Hi Andy, sometimes i read posts like yours on here and i just don't know what to say.

  But i don't want that silence to be considered apathy or indifference. 

  I feel happy that you are finding out that your son is ok and that you are finding out that you are being communicated to.  I think much will open up for you in the future in this area. 

  This inphysical life is such a tough journey sometimes, but i've found out that it's all worth it in the end from the bigger picture.  I hope that if you haven't come to that knowing yet, that you will, because it can help one deal better with such painful experiences like the one you related. 

P.S., i just read your recent reply.  Just wanted to share that it's my intuition that cats often can sense or see nonphysical eneriges, and often do react to them when a nonphysical consciousness is particularly focusing in physical for a bit.
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Reply #17 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 5:16pm
 
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  Hi Andy, sometimes i read posts like yours on here and i just don't know what to say.

  But i don't want that silence to be considered apathy or indifference. 
Hi Justin,
I understand, a lot of people feel the same as you and I would if it happened to someone else, thank you for replying though.

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  I feel happy that you are finding out that your son is ok and that you are finding out that you are being communicated to.  I think much will open up for you in the future in this area. 

  This inphysical life is such a tough journey sometimes, but i've found out that it's all worth it in the end from the bigger picture.  I hope that if you haven't come to that knowing yet, that you will, because it can help one deal better with such painful experiences like the one you related. 


At the moment the best way I can describe how I feel is, I miss my son being here physically and the things we used to do with him, on the other hand, I know he is still around, as I type this he is next to me again on the sofa and this has been the longest time I have felt him there, so I can't really miss him if he is still here, if that makes sense? Having said that I wish that none of this had happened and (no offence) I'm not posting about my new insights on here but that's how it is now and I'm sure I will get answers when the time is right.

At the moment I am getting enough from him which is helping me get through this and I honestly don't know where I would be without it. I don't feel ready to go any further yet so to speak but I will in time.

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P.S., i just read your recent reply.  Just wanted to share that it's my intuition that cats often can sense or see nonphysical eneriges, and often do react to them when a nonphysical consciousness is particularly focusing in physical for a bit.
That does explain their behaviour, I know this is off topic, is that a British Short Hair in your picture? The reason we have the Bengal cat is, my partner wanted a cat and we saw an advertisment for the British Short Hairs in our local paper, so we phoned for an appointment at the breeders to look at them, they are a lovely looking animal but my partner then saw the Bengal and we both agreed on getting him instead. He cost me a lot of money which tbh I didn't really have at the time but I just had to have him and haven't regretted it since, it's things like this that have made me think that some things are meant to be.

There are many other occasions in my life that have made me think this way, the main one is me and my partner being together but that's another story.

Thanks Andy.
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Reply #18 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 6:27pm
 
Hi Andy,

Your sharing hasn't been too much or boring.  I love hearing other people's experiences and thoughts.

I think it's cool about the jacket and the Pooh toy, although I might be a little freaked out if that happened to me. 

Recently I'd been thinking of my dad and had been asking him to physically move something to give me a sign of his presence.  A few days later a journal fell off my bookcase.  It was "impossible" for the journal to fall off naturally because of the way it was stacked on the shelf and nothing happened to cause it.  So I'm assuming it was in response to my asking, although it wasn't impressive as far as proof, so I dropped the whole subject and was no longer interested in that.

I much rather enjoy when I feel someone's presence in the room or with me.  Even without any physical proof, that's the best kind of experience, I think.  Like you said of feeling your son there, it's the feeling that is the best part of the experience. 

Consequently, I had also been asking to see my dad appear to me, but that has not happened yet.  But both my mom and my brother (mom lives here in Colorado, but my brother lives in Virginia) have seen a presence like a mist in their house.  My brother isn't sure what to believe, but my mom believes it was my dad.  I wonder why I haven't experienced that too.

And by the way, I definitely understand and believe about cats being able to sense things.
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Reply #19 - Apr 13th, 2011 at 12:36am
 
  Hi Andy,

Thank you for the reply.  Yes that does make sense. I've also experienced the transition of someone i was very close to, so from experience it makes sense.

  I'm not sure what breed my cat is.  An ex roommate decided one day to drop her off at our place as a "present" after finding her hanging out homeless.
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Reply #20 - Apr 13th, 2011 at 6:00am
 
I guess it is difficult to get people to talk about experiences like yours. That is why some people write books. Once you start looking, you may find there are more books out there than you previously could imagine.

The book Lakeman mentioned sounds very interesting and if you go to the guy's website you will find you can read the first part of the book for free, so to speak, but it just made me want to read the whole thing.

A couple of books that came to mind right away were Miraculous Moments by Elissa Al-Chokhachy. She's a hospice nurse who compiled stories such as yours into a book.  Another was a book called I think 41 Signs of Hope by Dave Kane. Dave Kane's 18 yr old son was killed in what is called the Station Nightclub Fire about 8 years ago in RI. The son's favorite number was 41, and that number kept showing up in the family's lives afterwards. Some of the connections sound a little tenuous, but Kane believes in them as messages from the son, partly because they are so numerous. They show you just need to trust what you feel about what you see as a message. (I read both from the library, maybe your library has them). Here's an article on Dave Kane:

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2010/03/31/go/7113827.txt

I'm sorry you've had this sadness in your life and I hope you find peace. I like the story about the toy being moved. Sounds just like a kid.
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Reply #21 - Apr 13th, 2011 at 1:10pm
 
Hi Vicky,

Believe me when I saw the jacket it did freak me out at first, I stopped in my tracks and stood there staring at it, then I noticed my cats were doing the same as me, I even waved my hand in front of the face of one of them and they wouldn't snap out of it, after when I came to my senses I just laughed as it was definitely him.

The pooh toy we didn't see happen but the cats did by the looks of it, I'm glad that my partner found it first as it has helped her come round to the "idea" that he is still around. I've gone over all possibilities with both events, it's not too difficult with the jacket as I saw it but with not seeing the pooh toy it took a bit more thinking before I could come to the conclusion that I have and there is no doubt in mine or my partners minds who is responsible.

I'm pretty astonished that these have happened tbh, I mean you read about things like this but it's an entirely different thing when you see it for yourself, all in a good way though.
I do find his presence a better experience myself, he was here last night for a long time until we went to bed, about 3 hours I think whereas other times he was here and there for 10 minutes or so but last night had been 4 weeks since we lost him so I don't know whether that was the reason or not.
I don't know if this will help you with seeing your dad or not, but when I have seen visions on the 3 occasions I mentioned in the previous posts, I was not expecting any of them, the last one I saw which went into the bathroom, we were actually told about it before we moved in so at times I was looking for it although I did think it might be bs as some people like to do that, on the day I saw it my mind was on other things so I don't know if this has anything to do with seeing them, I didn't even know what I was looking for either tbh.

Hi Justin,

Thanks for the reply, I'm glad that makes sense to you. It's a nice story about your cat as I hate to see stray animals, I have taken in a few in myself but passed them on to animal rescue as we have too many animals as it is.

Hi Lucy,

Thanks for the book references, I have looked on the beyond reason site myself and read through the free part and I felt exactly the same as you, I wanted to read more, I have ordered it off amazon but it doesn't seem to be a popular book in the U.K so the estimated delivery is at most the end of may! I can't wait to read the rest of it and I don't normally read books tbh! http://www.beyondreason.info/unusual.asp if you look on this link there is a short account about a girl that died but just before she did she drew a picture of how she died, I can't see how sceptics could explain that one!

Also the link you provided is quite interesting although they seem to be coincidences, but who am I to say otherwise, the only numbers related thing with my son is, he was born on 15/12/2009 and died on the 15/03/2011 exactly 15 months old, I don't know if this is of any significance but it's some coincidence, when the minister who did the service at his funeral came to talk to us he asked us this and when we told him he was taken aback by it! It does make you think though.

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Reply #22 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 11:11am
 
Hi all, nothing much has happened since I last posted, I have felt his presence briefly a few times but nowhere near as much as mentioned before. Is this normal?

Also in his room which we have and are keeping as it was when he was here, now and again we can smell his scent and sometimes sick lol which you do get with babies, but normally the smells aren't there, so is this a way of letting us know he's still around?

I finally received Gregg Korbon's book and I have read it, it's very good and although what happened to his son before his death is similar to what we have experienced, the most astounding thing that I found is what Gregg himself experienced and it was pretty much identical to what has been happening to me so far but obviously a lot more happened to him over the years, so it has helped me make more sense of everything.

Thanks again to lakeman for pointing it out to me.

Thanks, Andy
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Reply #23 - Apr 23rd, 2011 at 4:25pm
 
Andy B wrote on Apr 23rd, 2011 at 11:11am:
Hi all, nothing much has happened since I last posted, I have felt his presence briefly a few times but nowhere near as much as mentioned before. Is this normal?

Also in his room which we have and are keeping as it was when he was here, now and again we can smell his scent and sometimes sick lol which you do get with babies, but normally the smells aren't there, so is this a way of letting us know he's still around?

I finally received Gregg Korbon's book and I have read it, it's very good and although what happened to his son before his death is similar to what we have experienced, the most astounding thing that I found is what Gregg himself experienced and it was pretty much identical to what has been happening to me so far but obviously a lot more happened to him over the years, so it has helped me make more sense of everything.

Thanks again to lakeman for pointing it out to me.

Thanks, Andy



Hi Andy,

I'm glad that you finally got to read Gregg's book, as I knew it would speak to your situation. I don't know if he still has it operating, but I believe that he had a web site and a board there. You might contact him directly. I think he would be very open and supportive.

As far as smells go, there is much of this type of experience of "presence" reported in the literature. In one of his early books Bruce Moen has a story about smelling a skunk in connection with sensing the presence of a friend's passed relative.

On a personal note, on the morning of my mother's funeral, I was standing with my future wife and my sister-in-law in one of the upstairs bedrooms of my parents' house, and all three of us simultaneously reported smelling the pungent odor of a burning cigarette. My mother had been a smoker almost to the very end. (No one inside the house was smoking at the time--nor was it the leftover smell of stale cigarettes. Mom had been out of the house and in the hospital for some weeks before she died. This was a very strong odor, like someone was standing next to us puffing away.)
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Reply #24 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 10:17am
 
Hi, lakeman

There is a site which is for Gregg's book which has a board on there, which I think is still operating. Is this the one you mean or is there another?

You smelling the cigarette smoke is interesting isn't it?

People I know have experienced this also.
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Andy B wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 10:17am:
Hi, lakeman

There is a site which is for Gregg's book which has a board on there, which I think is still operating. Is this the one you mean or is there another?

You smelling the cigarette smoke is interesting isn't it?

People I know have experienced this also.


Hi Andy,

Here is the address I have for Gregg Korbon's site: http://www.beyondreason.info/default.asp.

On the conversation board there is a section where you can ask Gregg questions. I’m sure he would answer you. I think I mentioned that I met him at a conference, and he strikes me as a genuine and kind-hearted individual. Whether this is because of his great loss, in spite of it, or both, I don’t know—that is part of the great mystery of life, I guess.

The fact that our loved ones would manifest their presence through particular odors—or at least that we would perceive them thus—strikes me as quite interesting, especially since most of us think of, and would seem to prefer, experiencing “visions” with the visual sense (or quasi-visual, interior visionary perception). However, smell (and taste) is an acutely powerful sense, especially so when we are younger. I can recall certain scents from my early childhood—the peculiarly distinctive way the local library or variety store smelled—which was a very long time ago indeed! Marcel Proust’s “remembrance of things past” was of course triggered by the taste of a madeleine dipped in tea. In a way, smell and taste are much more immediate and acutely tactile—more physical, that is—than sight and hearing, and thus bring us closer to what we perceive. Perhaps that is part of the reason for our encounters.

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Reply #26 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 2:48pm
 
Thanks lakeman,

That's the site I was thinking of but I've only had a quick look at it, I will look into contacting Gregg to see what he has to say.

As for scents, yes I think your right they do have more of an impact on us it seems. Maybe it's more difficult for us to see them so scents are an easier way for us to pick up on their presence. I do know of one person who can see them a lot when other people can't, so maybe some of us have better abilities than others, tbh though it doesn't really matter to me as I have had enough things happen to convince me that it's definitely real. I'm not saying I'm an expert in this field though lol.

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Reply #27 - Apr 24th, 2011 at 3:09pm
 
Interesting points & scientifically speaking it is well accepted that smell connects to a more primitive and emotionally impacting part of the brain. 

Lakeman wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 11:46am:
Perhaps that is part of the reason for our encounters.


  Maybe also because of the potentially "unexpected" factor involved too? 

  When i've read the more well known psychic and spiritual literature out there, i've read a lot about seeing, feeling sense and emotionally wise, and hearing, but not as much about smell experiences.

If i were a nonphysical person trying to get across my presence or what not to a inphysical person who has some basic and/or mainstream knowledge of the nonphysical etc., i probably would be more apt to pick a more unexpected way of communicating.

 
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Reply #28 - Apr 25th, 2011 at 9:27pm
 
Andy:

Perhaps you might want to check out this site and book about after death communications.

http://www.after-death.com/
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Reply #29 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 1:24pm
 
Thanks recoverer, that's a good site and the book looks interesting.



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That's interesting and it makes a lot of sense.
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