Beau wrote on Nov 24th, 2010 at 9:57am:Hi Ginny,
Tom Campbell is one of the ones who says you're never in your body to begin with so the idea of leaving it is an illusion of the process. He becomes conscious in other reality frames and he says you either have a body or you don't depending on your wishes or your expectations.
They talk about all that stuff on his forums. He's very nice and makes an appearance there a couple times a week usually unless he's exceptionally busy. His Trilogy is definitely worth taking the time to read, but in total its about 820 pages. He makes a lot of sense.
Sorry y'all for jumping out of the Frank discussion.
Beau
Hi Beau: I hear things like this from various sources and I have no way of vetting it just yet... but every time I have had a classic obe... I feel a buzzing and I leave my body and go somewhere... when I have a mindsplit I am in two places at once... in my body or partly in my body or aware of my being in my body and at the same time observing a vivid event sequence...
But I suspect we are dealing with ultimates... ultimately on a very advanced level one is... such and such... but, I want to assure those of us who are still struggling to achieve the baby steps... that THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CONCEPTS WHICH ARE REALLY ADVANCED... don't let yourself be confused... and get thrown off stride... looking for something that will be discovered as you get better and better...
Just a thought...
S.