Volu wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:47pm:


Hi Volvu: that link was the complete story, that coupled with the two other stories connected with the situation shined a great light of clarification on the whole thing... Robert Bruce can be contacted you know... I am not sure he will go into a great deal of detail but he could confirm the salient events... if you are interested you might contact him.

S.

Hi All: THIS IS A SPECULATION!!

I keep asking myself why did Frank Kepple disappear so conveniently with the ‘dog ate my homework’ excuse… I just realized… the Monroe Institute could have played a role deep in the background by scaring the bejesus out him… Kepple thoroughly plagiarized Monroe (and Moen and Seth)… I know from the recoverer source that Robert Bruce forgave and forgot and walked away… but, RB has no particular resources… but, the Monroe Institute is handsomely endowed… and has all kinds of deep connections and resources… could it be a major lawsuit would have done serious damage to Kepple’s financial world???

Just a thought.

S.

Seraphis1,

"that link was the complete story, that coupled with the two other stories connected with the situation shined a great light of clarification on the whole thing.."

I checked out aunt from the link - the so called soup-group incident and others of her postings on astralpulse. That's what I meant by river of confusion. The topic spurred a mild curiosity, but that's as much time I'm going to spend on this. Frank's work is not a bible for me (the bible itself neither).

"but you can get fooled 'once' that is the fault of the perpetrator... just don't get fooled twice..."

There are so called nigerian money scams going about. And the one's falling for 'em are responsible for making THEIR poor decisions. They are not forced to agree to sending some money to supposedly get a gazillion dollars as far as I know.

"so there is a dark side one wants to avoid...

All you can do is decide if you are on the side of 'light' and follow that course... I choose 'light' and Love... I side with Monroe... their is no darkness it is an illusion... there is only an absence of 'light and love'.."

Monroe has stated darkness is just an illusion?

There's a dark side one wants to avoid, yet there is no darkness. That's one of that side's entrapments. Becoming blinded by light, and meanwhile one's darker side is left unchallenged and thus not dealt with, since it's not really there. For dark shamans like castanedea it's business as usual, cause they're just run-of-the-mill shamans. The shaman has just helped one trip, gets bad but not really since it's an illusion, and the shaman's consequent huge smile just means a good mood dropped by for a visit.

Seraphis1,

"Pardon me if I suggest this is comparing apples and oranges…  the Nigerian scam is ‘too’ obvious and ridiculous for people with a modicum of common sense…"

It's very obvious, yes, but one's own responsibility in these matters may not be, and can end up dragging a cross around to gather sympathy as a victim instead of doing something about it - do the steps required to get back on the path, and next time make a wiser choice. Can be said that even 'THE spiritual master' (for many) failed to do that, and so much for a modicum of common sense. Spiritual matters sure can be more diffuse, but still both the heart and logic can be used to be really sure that the next step is the 'right one' (for you).

"The world of spiritual seeking is entirely a different animal. The mentally challenge will always have a problem and provide an income stream for the unscrupulous… but, even the astute and mentally capable have a serious problem parsing ‘spiritual truth’… because of this reality: What the mind can conceive and believe the mind can achieve"

That group would also consist of people with good intentions, and also some very clever and devious ones. The so called mentally challenged have climbed up the ladders of positions of power while many in the public have been too busy with both fake and real terrorist threats and what the neighbours and lady gaga is up to. New diversions popping up to keep the mind busy. Those who think they can get away with 'just can't help myself because this or that' are looking at the symptoms of the problem and not the root - which is oneself. But good news, it's also oneself who has the power to fix it once running out of excuses and people to put the blame on. No long walks into the distance needed to find the elusive it's-got-to-be-out-there-somewhere. So, one's own responsibility when reading or not reading spiritual material applies. Discernment. If the discernment turns out to be shabby, step it up, get better, learn and put it into practice.

"The astral sphere is extremely malleable a mind can create almost any reality out of it… as long as it believes… that is a huge problem…  because one cannot easily distinguish reality… read Michael Largo’s ‘God’s Lunatics’ and you will see just how deadly this ability of the mind is… for a spiritual seeker… it is the reason Buddhist teachers tell students not to get tangled in ‘siddhi’s (powers) they are not real…"

If it's true that frank plagarized, he has been more clear cut and more eloquent with plain wording than those who he allegedly has ripped of about this: in the focus levels close to this one, your own subjective stuff is very likely to be played out than objective stuff. If emotions aren't handled well then subjective and objective focus levels can blend into one, while thinking it's purely objective.

A problem? A challenge? Well, technology isn't gonna work it out by pressing a button to get the answer. Other people is going to have their versions. So DIY. So what if there are wrong turns. At least it's not second hand information adding a layer of diffuseness. It takes practice to learn to walk, talk and so with phasing and navigation, learning to move the current focus to other areas of consciousness.

I don't understand why somebody would charge over $300.00 for a book. I figure that if somebody truly had something worthwhile to share, he (or she) would be more giving and not make people pay so much.

Ginny wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 8:25pm:

Maybe when Frank had gone through the couple of thousand that he absconded with he had no more money and no reputation and suddenly no internet. That could be the death of most anyone these days.

Hey Beau,

I checked out your link on Tom Campbell--looks interesting. Does he travel via the traditional OOB way or does he consciously project his awareness?

Gin