Hi

this relates to Don/Berserk's post under the Swedenborg title, but is enough of an offshoot I posted it here.
Don points out that resercher Charles Tart has the best test for NDEs using an item near the ceiling of an operating room that at least one woman who returned was able to identify.
It seems that Tart's plan is now being used more extensively as a test. But I see several problems with the way it's been adapted.  What do you think of the following?

“18 HOSPITALS SEEK NEAR DEATH PROVED

At 18 hospitals in the U.S. and U.K., researchers have suspended pictures, face up, from the ceilings in emergency-care areas. The reason: to test whether patients brought back to life after cardiac arrest can recall seeing the images during an out-of-body experience.

People who have these near-death experiences often describe leaving their bodies and watching themselves being resuscitated from above, but verifying such accounts is difficult. The images would be visible only to people who had done that.

"We've added these images as objective markers," says Sam Parnia, a critical-care physician and lead investigator of the study, which hopes to include 1,500 resuscitated patients.  Dr. Parnia declined to say whether any have accurately described the images so far, but says he hopes to report preliminary results next year.

The study, coordinated by Southampton University's School of Medicine in England, is one of the latest and largest scientific efforts to understand the mystery of near-death experiences.”
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Betson

The last thing I'd be doing if I had an NDE is look around for Letters and Numbers near the ceiling. Maybe I would be inclined to do it if it was during an OBE ...maybe.