Kiven williams says there is nothing better than death.We never die,and we have always excisted.

Can it get any better than something that has never happined, or never will?

Dr who,you are thinking about the body.im thinking about the spirit.yes the flesh will die,but the spirit lives on.now you know the rest of the story.

Well, In regards to spirit, I of course hope that it exists in some form. I am not sure if spirit can be considered the same thing as mind being separate from the body, or dualism, but regardless I hope they exist.

The only grounds we have for thinking dualism or the mind and body being separate is based solely on experiences... I.E. NDE's most notably.

Quantum psychics on the other hand does show us that the results of experiments can change simply because someone is watching and also shows that distance of matter does not make a difference where energy is concerned.

Basically, the concept that what WE, the thought, the self, truly is, could theoretically be more than the body, we could in fact be a form of energy that cannot be read with any device because it is a very low form of energy which no device can read.

The search continues as it were, the afterlife is not guaranteed, but neither is it a definite no. Scientists need to remember that when they study. We just can't rule out the possibility without studying ALL the facts.

Ah... yes... This web site has a lot of information of reported NDE's etc.



..... but it does not prove the afterlife exists as a certainty.

Kevin Williams says:

"NDEs affirm physical existence to be illusionary in that separation exists only in our minds."

What does it mean for something to exist only in our minds?

Usually we think of that as something we think that turns out to not be factual, but thinking it has little impact on the physical reality,  or physical illusion, if you prefer.

What does it mean to say that separation exists only in our minds? I can't seem to overcome separation the same way I can a prejudice that turns out to exist only in my mind. Surely this separation exists in some more profound way.

Dr. Who wrote on Oct 12^th, 2010 at 7:51pm:


Not true -depending on your beliefs and viewpoints, naturally 
All living things (and that may include far more than you think in the determination of what constitutes life) do not die if you consider that we humans are spiritual beings having a physical experience, and the 'end' is not the relinquishment of life at all. We simply go home to where we came from before we incarnated.
I also like to think that my pets are doing the same thing. So for that matter -and Bruce has written on this in his books- other life forms (Dolphins in the case of Bruce's books to give just one example) are probably all having the same physical experience, and then they go home to whatever version of Focus 27 is set aside for them.
Nuts you think? well, remember the maxim: when all possibilities have been explored, the remaining one  NO MATTER HOW ABSURD IT MAY SEEM, must be the correct hypothesis.

Or words to that effect 

Best wishes,
David.

Right on david.I have seen it,and many more things,have I experienced.We are a part of all that excists G