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Info Overflow - To Many Knowns
Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 6:27pm

This is both a reflection and a question.

Why are we having so many incarnations from our I-There/Disk?

Reason for the question is that there must be a whole lot of redundance. I would expect some discarnates to have become completely obsolete by time? If everything was about gathering Knowns, we should not need this many incarnations, thousands of them it seem.

And worst of all. I think each new incarnation is only adding very little Known to the I-There as so many things are repeated. And yet, it seems humanity hasn't learnt much since the dawn of time...

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Reply #1 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 11:42am

Hi,

"And worst of all. I think each new incarnation is only adding very little Known to the I-There as so many things are repeated. And yet, it seems humanity hasn't learnt much since the dawn of time..."

Takes more than a couple of eggs to get this cake right. Making one's life review right now by jotting down the story so far have the potential to reveal that there's actually quite a lot learnt by just one incarnation. Interesting to note the repeating/looping issues dealt with, and the ones remaining. That's one opportunity to 'stop walking around the porridge', to use a norweigan expression.

"Humanity" consists of incarnations that are all over the place in terms of advancement, all over the place in the timeline, from a lot of total selves. Turns out each of the the many simultaneous incarnations from one total self continue to branch out into parallel dimensions to really milk every precious drop of experience. Was it really a known if it takes so many dips into the water? Anyways, if taking a peek at some of the jerry springer guests, then one'll probably see some of the challenges one's lesser advanced incarnations have. Here you'll get to observe challenges of another level, and so on. All of one's incarnations add up though, and all levels are needed to finally get it right. In my opinion.

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Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:29am

The looping is a mystery. Discarnates in F 23 are stuck in emotional (?) loops. Our Disks are stuck in Earth life loops, due to poor "escape velocity".

I'm re-reading Moen's third book, and at page 53, when the helper tells Moen about one of his missions in life, to do retrievals of Selves, I start to wonder... Moen is supposed to help with retrievals of those from other Disks, too.

We can certainly originate from more than one previous incarnation (Monroe as an example, was composed out of 5 previous lives, see Ultimate Journey), from our Disk, but...

Do you think that an incarnation, anyone living, can originate from more than one Disk at a time? Could it be possible for me to originate from two different Disks, for example one mostly-human I-There and one mostly-alien I-There?

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Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:08am

PauliEffectt wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 6:27pm:

This is both a reflection and a question.

Why are we having so many incarnations from our I-There/Disk?

Reason for the question is that there must be a whole lot of redundance. I would expect some discarnates to have become completely obsolete by time? If everything was about gathering Knowns, we should not need this many incarnations, thousands of them it seem.

And worst of all. I think each new incarnation is only adding very little Known to the I-There as so many things are repeated. And yet, it seems humanity hasn't learnt much since the dawn of time...

Hi Pauli: You've hit on a connundrum... why is the physical plane so hard... Lobsang Rampa claimed to be working on discovering the reason for it and others have asked the same question... mostly it is because the beings who come in 'don't' follow thru on their 'there' agreements... when they fail to do that it changes all the 'potentials' and everything goes bananas... and reconfigures in very complex ways thus we can no longer 'hear' what our 'it' purpose is and it creates a major mess...

Think of it as 'Mr. Smith goes to washington'... most go to washington to make a difference but then get corrupted by the process and fall in line and change nothing.
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Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 11:48am

Seraphis1 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:08am:

PauliEffectt wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 6:27pm:

This is both a reflection and a question.

Why are we having so many incarnations from our I-There/Disk?

Reason for the question is that there must be a whole lot of redundance. I would expect some discarnates to have become completely obsolete by time? If everything was about gathering Knowns, we should not need this many incarnations, thousands of them it seem.

And worst of all. I think each new incarnation is only adding very little Known to the I-There as so many things are repeated. And yet, it seems humanity hasn't learnt much since the dawn of time...

Hi Pauli: You've hit on a connundrum... why is the physical plane so hard... Lobsang Rampa claimed to be working on discovering the reason for it and others have asked the same question... mostly it is because the beings who come in 'don't' follow thru on their 'there' agreements... when they fail to do that it changes all the 'potentials' and everything goes bananas... and reconfigures in very complex ways thus we can no longer 'hear' what our 'it' purpose is and it creates a major mess...

Think of it as 'Mr. Smith goes to washington'... most go to washington to make a difference but then get corrupted by the process and fall in line and change nothing.
S.

P.s.: If you are interested in a deeper understanding of the process of the 'It' check out the 'There Cluster' work of Cobalt Blue at

http://www.stephanieriseley.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&...

S.

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Romain Super Member Offline Posts: 817 North/West Coast Gender:	Re: Info Overflow - To Many Knowns Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:51pm Seraphis: Thanks for link; "Excavating to the core" sound like a book that i would read, have you? And if you did what do you think of it? Anything new development/stuff in it? Or basically the same as other books. PUL
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Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm

IMO, many of us are wrapping things up in this experience and getting ready for take-off. Having the feelings of ‘been there, done that’ is getting so boring that I can not see going another round in this particular reality; there are so many others.

Other focus realities, other types of bodies. I can’t imagine coming back to this earth reality over and over and over and being a human over and over and over even if the tag simultaneous incarnations is pinned to it. Even the term 'living in the now' is something I'd prefer to do elsewhere.

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Reply #7 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:55pm

Romain wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:51pm:

Seraphis:
Thanks for link; "Excavating to the core" sound like a book that i would read, have you?
And if you did what do you think of it? Anything new development/stuff in it? Or basically the same as other books.
PUL

Hi Romain: Its a great practical book... I on my third reading of it... Moment by Moment is just as important... together they show you how to contact your 'it'.

I highly recommend it.

By the way I bought a five session 'past life hypnotheraphy' series from Stephanie... she is really good... I am going for my second session on thursday next... I will report the benefits of it to the board.. she is Dr. Brian Weiss trained...

S.

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Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:57pm

SHSS wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 2:03pm:

IMO, many of us are wrapping things up in this experience and getting ready for take-off. Having the feelings of ‘been there, done that’ is getting so boring that I can not see going another round in this particular reality; there are so many others.

Other focus realities, other types of bodies. I can’t imagine coming back to this earth reality over and over and over and being a human over and over and over even if the tag simultaneous incarnations is pinned to it. Even the term 'living in the now' is something I'd prefer to do elsewhere.

Hi s: I hope you succeed... are you in contact with your inner self?

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Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 6:03pm

Thank you and yes. Where else would I get this information?

I’ll try to put it another way. I forget that some people might take what I’m saying literally. I don’t mean that I’m going to get beamed up and fly off to another planet. although I suppose anything’s possible.

What I mean is that I want to join back within myself, (wake-up) raise to a higher or other vibration, and play a different game.

When I reread what I wrote, I thought it might sound confusing. Sorry, I haven’t posted for a while.

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george stone Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 857	Re: Info Overflow - To Many Knowns Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 7:15pm i Think we could live the same life we are living now,over and over.and we will think its the first time we are here on earth.whats the difference.we will not know we lived before because we will have no memory of it anyway.G
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Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 8:21pm

Seraphis1 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:55pm:

Romain wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:51pm:

Seraphis:
Thanks for link; "Excavating to the core" sound like a book that i would read, have you?
And if you did what do you think of it? Anything new development/stuff in it? Or basically the same as other books.
PUL

Hi Romain: Its a great practical book... I on my third reading of it... Moment by Moment is just as important... together they show you how to contact your 'it'.

I highly recommend it.

By the way I bought a five session 'past life hypnotheraphy' series from Stephanie... she is really good... I am going for my second session on thursday next... I will report the benefits of it to the board.. she is Dr. Brian Weiss trained...

S.

Sound interesting those sessions, it says 6 to 7 sessions on her page, hope you can do it with less..

It's not written in stone.
Yes, please let us know how it went, Thanks.
Never been to a hypnotherapist' session, but the thought has cross my mind.Maybe on day if i could find a reliable/experience one around here.
PUL

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Reply #12 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 8:36pm

I have to say, George, that this thought has crossed my mind lately. I sometimes feel that I have already done this whole thing. Like there is a part of me that already finished, and knows it. It's kind of a weird thought, but there you are.

george stone wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 7:15pm:

i Think we could live the same life we are living now,over and over.and we will think its the first time we are here on earth.whats the difference.we will not know we lived before because we will have no memory of it anyway.G

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Reply #13 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 9:13pm

Romain wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 8:21pm:

Seraphis1 wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:55pm:

Romain wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:51pm:

Seraphis:
Thanks for link; "Excavating to the core" sound like a book that i would read, have you?
And if you did what do you think of it? Anything new development/stuff in it? Or basically the same as other books.
PUL

Hi Romain: Its a great practical book... I on my third reading of it... Moment by Moment is just as important... together they show you how to contact your 'it'.

I highly recommend it.

By the way I bought a five session 'past life hypnotheraphy' series from Stephanie... she is really good... I am going for my second session on thursday next... I will report the benefits of it to the board.. she is Dr. Brian Weiss trained...

S.

Sound interesting those sessions, it says 6 to 7 sessions on her page, hope you can do it with less..

It's not written in stone.
Yes, please let us know how it went, Thanks.
Never been to a hypnotherapist' session, but the thought has cross my mind.Maybe on day if i could find a reliable/experience one around here.
PUL

Hi Romain: I might warn you that you need to be careful in selecting a hypnotheraphist… I specifically sought out a Dr. Brian Weiss trained practitioner because of his book… Many lives, Many masters… then I think Stephanie who has cluster guides Cobalt Blue is a plus you probably won’t find this is the majority of the practitioners around the country… but, just to let you know I won’t be able to be specific about my sessions but I can tell you this in my very first session I discovered a problem that happened surrounding my birth that created a life long issue which I am now (using Excavating to the Core) to dissolve… part of its dissolution is just bringing it up to the surface, I never knew it was there… this is just the beginning…

S.

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Reply #14 - Dec 19^th, 2010 at 7:45pm

PUL [/quote]
Hi Romain: I might warn you that you need to be careful in selecting a hypnotheraphist… I specifically sought out a Dr. Brian Weiss trained practitioner because of his book… Many lives, Many masters… then I think Stephanie who has cluster guides Cobalt Blue is a plus you probably won’t find this is the majority of the practitioners around the country… but, just to let you know I won’t be able to be specific about my sessions but I can tell you this in my very first session I discovered a problem that happened surrounding my birth that created a life long issue which I am now (using Excavating to the Core) to dissolve… part of its dissolution is just bringing it up to the surface, I never knew it was there… this is just the beginning…

S.
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Hi Seraphis,
Careful in selecting a hypnotheraphist, totally agree here.
Regarding your session i understand some are very personal and need to know basis. But what you've said so far re: Birth, sound like what it should be in those sessions.
Myself going to see an hypnotheraphist would be to break the veil of year 1 to 4 1/2 yrs old,(trauma happened in those specific years) which i have no recollections off. I know the cause but no recollections. Try many technique over the years by myself (self retreival etc ) and help from TMI tape/cd but can't find/open those lost years.
One day the Pandora box will open when i don't know.
Thanks for sharing.
PUL.

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