floriferous wrote on Aug 20^th, 2010 at 4:05am:


Hi Flo: I have not as yet been able to make any of those two procedures work. I suspect you have to be a very long way along for them to work or have some specific subconscious suggestability, such as one who is easily hypnotized.

S.

I haven't been a big fan of the PIC method, it doesn't seem to match my way of thinking. I always connected specific focus levels to images like landscapes, foggy or clear, am I on ground or flying, inside or outside, or in outer space, or if I feel an expansion in any way and so on. I then learnt to re-enter these states very quickly by remembering these images or feelings.

Spooky

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Hi; sorry took so long to reply.
2...the Monroe Institute approach which is 'putting a flag', as it were, in each of the focus levels with your PIC?

I taken that you did Guideline, been a while but i think that where they started using PIC.
Your're right put a "flag" or something to remember where you are at.
ex: when your in f10 and feel you are there like in the exercises where they tell you "your in F10" etc.
Put you flag so to speak there, it could be anything you want...a flag/animal/something you care about etc..and every-times you do the exercise when you reach the F level your at used the same Pic.
So if you reach a deeper level the nest time re-install the PIC there..that it.
And then if you do the exercise without the cd/tape, when your relax remember the PIC and remember the feeling and follow it. Or re-experience the feeling like Bruce would say...
Hope this make sense..
R.

Ditto Romain and SPooky. Initially they suggested in Gateway to see it like and elvator, sort of, but they really did not want to front load anyone. That was enough to front load me, and I saw it like changing numbers in an elevator. But like on the tapes/CDs/mp3s I would arrive and "say" in my energetic body "TWELVE, TWELVE, TWLEVE" when I got there (or wherever). But I have not found the PIC code useful for me either, though they use it up to and including the Starlines programs. At this point I just take a few breaths and there I am, wherever it was my intention to be on any og the Focus levels, and some besides.

Like Bob used to say, he got everywhere he got with Focus 10. Thomas Campbell (who introduced Monroe to the binaural beat article in Scientific Amterican where he learned about the phenomenon) states in his Big TOE that the only OBE that really made a difference was Delta.

Who knows. Do what works for you. I no longer "see" an elevator at all, and have my own crystal on Focus 27 so I do not have to go to TMI There to go beyond Focus 27 like all the TMI programs route you. I had a break from TMI, and it was a great expereience to go out on my own, along paths described in Bob's and Bruce's books. It is a journey worth taking, and all it takes is intention and practice.

Hang in there.

Thomas