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The Apalling Chapter of the Bible Numbers 31 (Read 10809 times)
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Reply #15 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 5:17am
 
"The bible sucks."
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Reply #16 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 11:51am
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 4:33am:
But Seph we are a reflection of the past, indeed we are their legacy!!

Blessings and light

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Hi Alan: I concur... we have burned through the dross and refined the truth... where we were once taught an eye for an eye in the reptilian brain... we are gradually learning to see through that illusion with homo noeticus vision and getting closer to the truth that unconditional love creates positive attraction and that the truth is one must love those who abuse you not react in kind... but that is an evolution... as long as we are in human form... the reptilian and mammalian mind will always be there... and must be recognized for what they are...

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Reply #17 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:16pm
 
Are you suggesting that an alien spoke to Moses rather than God? I haven't researched the Anuki thing, so I don't know.


Seraphis1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 4:28am:
Hi All: Just thought I'd throw this out there for interested students of history. To understand the Old and New Testament I suggest reading Zecharia Sitchin's 'Earth Chronicles' for a definitive look at where the Old Testament came from and then make conclusions about the value of it.

The past can not be evaluated in the light of present day values and experience... it won't work. Each era has to be evaluated in the context of its own unique world view.

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Reply #18 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 3:33pm
 
Seraphis1,

"[..] one must love those who abuse you not react in kind [..]"

That's light polarity in a nutshell, and another way of explaining turning the other cheek. An updated version is pure unconditional love, though it seems to be more about saying it than actually doing it, fortunately. Take away the velvet glove of these sayings and the iron fist appears. Maybe suffering seems like a good option when blinded by light.
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Reply #19 - Jul 30th, 2010 at 10:23pm
 
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Reply #20 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 12:38pm
 
Volu wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 3:33pm:
That's light polarity in a nutshell, and another way of explaining turning the other cheek. An updated version is pure unconditional love, though it seems to be more about saying it than actually doing it, fortunately. Take away the velvet glove of these sayings and the iron fist appears. Maybe suffering seems like a good option when blinded by light.


   When it comes to PUL, turning the other cheek, etc--these are consciousnesses, activities, states of being/awareness which one cannot understand solely through the intellect and the left brain.

  It takes tuning into the "heart" or rather more accurately the Thymus gland and the right brain hemisphere in order to feel and through feeling know the truth of these. 

If a person is heavily left brain, and intellectually polarized, they tend to have a hard time with such concepts of PUL.   It won't "make sense" to them. 

  Ever notice how it seems that there is a higher percentage of women who seem to be more open to believing in PUL in a deep, consistent sense?  Ever notice how there seems to be more women who are more consciously psychically aware and sensitive than men? 

   It is because in both cases, speaking in general, women as a whole and a trend, tend to be more in touch with their feeling, "heart", and right brain natures than men as a whole. 

  While there are plenty of women with developed intellects, and in some cases even intellectually polarized women, again as a trend there is greater attunement to the feeling/right brain side of life.  Female means and is Yin and vice versa, and Yin means feeling/observing/receptive. 

  Hence, as a trend, not being so intellectually polarized as men, women tend to come to these truths sooner because they can feel them.   There is a lot to be said about so called "non rational" feeling, and feeling awareness. 

RE: so called "Light" or dark polarity.  There is no such thing as "light polarity".   

  Light is the very creative essence and foundation of creation.  It's the medium and tool that Source worked with to create all.   All was born from and exists in Light. 

Because of the endowment of freewill, there can be temporarily experienced relatively lesser degrees of Light luminosity. 

  If the Light is turned down a lot, it appears "dark" or "not light". 

  But, this is a perceptual illusion.  There is still some light there, otherwise the being would cease to exist as a conscious, sentient, freewilled being.   Light is consciousness--especially in the sense of conscious self awareness. 

  Apparently, according to Bruce and some other sources, this does occasionally happen, that a freewilled, individualized Being can so tune down within and shut off it's connections to creational Light without, as to destroy itself, though not in entirety as in a whole Disk, but as an individualized aspect of same. 

  When we work from inaccurate core premises, we come to inaccurate conclusions and beliefs of all kinds. 

  Meanwhile, with the huge majority of individualized beings, it's just a matter of lesser or greater degree of Light luminosity. 

   If we use our freewill like the man Yeshua did--only positively and for PUL, then do we become again, pure Light, like we were to begin with (or most of us).   We can so raise the slow vibratory patterns of the physical body as to completely convert it into pure Light, and exist as He does "in the world, but not OF it" anymore. 

  So, there is no such thing as Light polarity, for Light is all there is, ever was, and will ever be and relative lack of Light has no reality unto itself except in it's relative relationship to pure, Source-Creational Light.  We can only cover it over for a time, but most of us will eventually wake up to the pure Light we were birthed from and consciously existed in until we chose differently. 

  This is because when we choose less than PUL, we suffer.  The degree of suffering is proportional to the degree of lack of Light luminosity we attune to.  How can we not suffer when we choose the unreal and unreality? 

  Most credible psychical based accounts of Yeshua, report him as an incredibly joyful, happy, at peace, and humorous kind of person (consciousness).   The reason why, is simply because he was and is pragmatic, and chose to live and exist within only reality.  When he became a "Christ" in his physical life aka purely and completely attuned to the purest Light and purest expression of PUL, he transcended/regenerated self suffering.    Now the only suffering he feels is for those who still suffer and who are lost and stuck. 
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Reply #21 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 6:53pm
 
recoverer wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:16pm:
Are you suggesting that an alien spoke to Moses rather than God? I haven't researched the Anuki thing, so I don't know.


Seraphis1 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 4:28am:
Hi All: Just thought I'd throw this out there for interested students of history. To understand the Old and New Testament I suggest reading Zecharia Sitchin's 'Earth Chronicles' for a definitive look at where the Old Testament came from and then make conclusions about the value of it.

The past can not be evaluated in the light of present day values and experience... it won't work. Each era has to be evaluated in the context of its own unique world view.

S.



Hi Re: watch history channel "Exodus decoded"... and you will get an interesting take on the Moses saga... I'm note making an extraterrestrial connection to moses... but I don't rule it out... something happened on Sinai that smacks of extraterrestrial involvement... I am writing a book in which I am suggesting that Moses was a diciple of Akenaton through the movement Akenaton started in 1300 bc or so in which he tried to revive the one God idea...

His city Amara was razed upon his death but, he created a movement which lives on today.

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Reply #22 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 1:34am
 
Justin hi after a long absence I see, a really great post and I differ from you in only one pint, You said Jesus was a man, and I perceive him more as an incarnation of God  Smiley Smiley
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Reply #23 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 2:10am
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Aug 1st, 2010 at 1:34am:
Justin hi after a long absence I see, a really great post and I differ from you in only one pint, You said Jesus was a man, and I perceive him more as an incarnation of God  Smiley Smiley


  Hi back friend,   

  Can't he be both at the same time?   It's interesting to note that when speaking of himself, Yeshua most referred to himself as the "son of man". 

   There are various layers to the "Jesus mystery".   I find it's more helpful to view him as a full Co-Creator from the "beginning", who in living and being like God, became completely One with God, and thus became a perfect extension or conduit of and for God.  This is what it means to be a "Co Creator" with God.

He repeated this process completion in his physical life as a physical personality born to a woman.  He was a man, who became a God by completely emptying self of all selfish and materialistic desires and becoming a pure channel and expresser of PUL.   It didn't come to him automatically with no effort or freewill choosing on his part.  There was blood, sweat, and tears involved. 

But in doing so, and completely so, he became "God conscious"-- complete Universal, conscious awareness--completely conscious of all connections between all Beings.  In making his will one with Sources Will, he became fully at one with Source.

  This is the state that many Eastern based/oriented gurus and teachers have claimed for themselves, but without the backing that He constantly lived and demonstrated in his life from his constant forgiveness and positive treatment of others under situations of extreme duress, personal danger and belittling, and personal stress, and his various "miracles" of healing and transcendence over the finite laws of matter.

  I don't want to spend too much time on this subject, as this site is not about Yeshua, but about the Afterlife and people's experiences in regards to the nonphysical.   With that said, i believe what i believe largely based on my experiences with guidance when it comes to Yeshua.

I hope that people would be open minded and hearted enough to seek direct guidance about this Jesus figure, and find out for themselves what is true or not.  I've found that it helps to specifically ask for the help and guidance of only the most spiritually loving, aware, creative, universal, and helpful sources.  Also bring up/remember feelings of love and gratitude within, and then ask one's specific questions. 

  Anyways, no more about Yeshua from me as i've spoke enough of him already here.  I will say that i believe he will make public, bodily appearances again in the same body he glorified 2 thousand years ago. 

   
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Reply #24 - Aug 7th, 2010 at 2:16am
 
I see Jesus in Proverbs Chapter 8

1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?


2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.


3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.


4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.


5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.


6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.


7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.


8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.


9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.


10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.


11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.


12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.


13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.


14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.


15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.


16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.


17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.


18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.


19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.


20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:


21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.


22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.


23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.


24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.


25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:


26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.


27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:


28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:


29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:


30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;


31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.


33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.


34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.


35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.


36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.



Alan
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