Let's celebrate a new Independence Day. Independence of spiritual progress (or in other, old style words, progress in leading a good life) from any alien stories, stories about archangels, galactic governments and karma police.

Spooky

After reading the start of this thread, I was somehow irritated about it. So I thought, why not have a little phasing and see if I get an info about it, so off I went, and felt threatened by some horrible looking entities who clearly wanted to come close to me and grab me. As it wasn't an OBE I was still aware of my physical body and kept cool, and thought: "What does that mean?" And called a guide, and he told me these beings (or images of seeming beings) would want aspects of humans, they want to grab an aspect of a person and tear it apart from the ensemble of the aspects of which this person consists of. This, though, only would be a problem for those who have a very analytical self-view (meaning no real self view), and this self-image, which is consisting of many aspects, is a prey for those forces; but this self-image isn't something really substantial, it is a thought thing. Nevertheless, if one identifies with it, and it is about to be torn apart, it's hellish.

Spooky

Perhaps the 'aliens' are just pulling a prank on you? 

Volu:

What you wrote reminds me of what Bruce Moen says about belief system crashes. People often get caught up in what they consider to be comfty, cosey belief systems, and it can be challenging when they break out of them.

The problem is, it seems as if a few people are dictating the belief systems for many other people, so there are a lot of people who are easy to mislead, quite often not for the better.


Volu wrote on Jun 30^th, 2010 at 5:12am:

Recoverer,

"What you wrote reminds me of what Bruce Moen says about belief system crashes. People often get caught up in what they consider to be comfty, cosey belief systems, and it can be challenging when they break out of them."

It's challenging, and that's why I presume, again, that a LOT of incarnations are needed to both immerse one's self in and disengage from this game. Sometimes it seems like this road just keeps going on forever and ever, same oblivious shit different day, but in the long run I think it's worth it. I get the feeling that my disc has balance in himher self but needs to experience balance/merging of the polarities to go get to know and understand it. I also think that mastery of emotions is of one of the keys on the chain taken from all this. When I read stuff, it's kinda blank and straightforward, but when I hear an incarnation saying the same words, with emotion added, it's enriched and much more clear, vivid and alive. Like a painter learning to paint pictures with light and shadow, then add colour.

"The problem is, it seems as if a few people are dictating the belief systems for many other people, so there are a lot of people who are easy to mislead, quite often not for the better."

Yeah, I know and agree. But then again I think that's part of the experience, and think that some members, on the surface may seem to live wasteful lives, but are bringing a lot of valuable experience to the table, so that other members expand on that, and "get the job done".

About the topic, other information I've got, love or crappity smack it, makes no difference to me, 'sma' is used among the winged reptilian royals to expand life of their bodies (hard to let go of being a body and power?). Orion reptiles infiltrate systems rather than the bang on domination like sirians. The egyptian statues with dog bodies show who's the head of the orion and sirian alliance. Orion is ruled by a queen, sirians are ruled by a king, a situation reflected on earth. Oh well. Fantasy, fiction. Who the crappity smack knows, for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJh_uMAYIo

chrwe:

I'm not certain what you're referring to, but if you're suggesting that people who speak of reptilians are dealing with nothing but illusion, perhaps this is true to the same degree that you and your post are nothing but illusions.

On the other hand, in the same way that you and your post exist, people have found out about unfriendly aliens in a manner that goes beyond belief system oriented illusions.

I'm like Justin in that at first I thought the reptilian thing was a joke, mainly because David Icke doesn't seem completely credible, but then I found sources that speak about them that seem credible, and received messages about them in a manner that was more than my mind creating hallucinations.

The manner in which these messages have been delivered to me is as real as how posts appear on this forum. In fact, I say the messages are more real, because they come from beings that aren't caught up in their own delusions and that abide at levels of being that are prior to this physical world.

chrwe wrote on Jul 1^st, 2010 at 8:01am:

Okay, as I said, I wasn't certain.

chrwe wrote on Jul 1^st, 2010 at 1:47pm: