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Reply #15 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:11pm
 
Spooky,

Yes, interesting thought. Makes one ask just who the 'aliens' really are then. Did we originally come here as well, to play and fall off the jungle bars and make friends and experience emotions and test the limits of this remarkable playground? Perhaps other beings coming here to join in the fun automatically guarantees the gates will always be open, the millions of rides and tours and adventures to be lived will always be available.
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Reply #16 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:17pm
 
Ginny,

To me this one entity sounds like a higher self taking a leap into the game. Interesting to read! Thanks.
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 1:59pm
 
Ginny-- when I was a kid (maybe around 4 or 5 years old) I would visit a golden city. The streets and buildings were all gold and I would fly over them in the astral.  More recently, I have visited a myrid of netting with "sparkle lights) The mesh was height and width as far as the eye could see in total blackness, just "hanging" in the blackness with zillions of sparkle lights.  This is so exciting!!!  I am so happy for you.  Congratulations on making your 1st contact with HIB (higher intellegent beings).  Love Carol Ann
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Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 4:37pm
 
Ginny:

Cool experience.

Identcat:

I received messages that something significant is going to happen during October of this year. If I remember correctly, in the past you wrote that while you were at TMI you were told that something significant is going to happen this year. I can't remember the details, would you be able to provide? Thank you.
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Reply #19 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 4:52pm
 
Ginny- You said:  <<Some of them, clustered together as usual, had moved so close to the ELS that they were at a jump off point or place where they could willingly enter into human/Earth life. A few had already taken the leap and those still undecided were watching, waiting anxiously for their return. >>

I am trying to figure out exactly how they (or it, assuming it's really one entity) would enter into ELS.

I mean, in order to experience living here, wouldn't they have to assume human shape with all of our sensory organs?  They would have to experience all of our emotions, including hunger and thirst.  That means they would need stomachs, right?

They would need to feel joy and fear, and all of the other emotions we experience.

So.....that raises the obvious question: how would they be able to suddenly appear on earth, having human form, and not be "noticed" by the rest of us?  They would need a house.  How would they get it?  They would need money.  Would they apply for a job somewhere?  They would need to be able to explain themselves to humans, who would ask questions.

Or would they be just like us but be invisible?

There are just so many other questions implicit in their becoming like us that it's kind of mind boggling to say the least.

Do you have any insight on these kinds of dilemmas?  If not, maybe you could ask them next time?

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Reply #20 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 5:50pm
 
Hi b2,

Fascinating. Did you get a sense that they could have been a part of Earth? You handled it really well, b2. You just let the moment unfold instead of becoming alarmed and losing the connection. Thanks for sharing this Smiley.

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Ginny

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Reply #21 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 5:51pm
 
Rondelle:

I don't understand why you believe there is a dilemma. Couldn't they just incarnate into human bodies?

When it comes to the disk/I-there viewpoint, incarnation isn't limited to human experience. I've had experiences that made the point that my disk/self has had more than human experiences.

Why put limits on what a soul is capable of experiencing, learning, becoming?
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Reply #22 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 6:01pm
 
Hi Identcat,

Whoa! The netting. Did you get an impression of what the lights were or what it was you were seeing? Kinda sounds like an experience Buddha's had.

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Ginny
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Reply #23 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 6:03pm
 
Thanks Volu and recoverer Smiley.
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Reply #24 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 6:26pm
 
Albert-

Well, I suppose they could incarnate into human bodies, but then what?  How would they explain themselves to us "regular" humans?

Obviously they would have to live somewhere.  Or are you thinking they would just walk around for a while and then go back?

Would they sort of custom design their own human bodies?  I don't think they would occupy the body of another human.  But then how can we be assured of that?

And I sure hope they don't need humans to serve as a kind of "portal" for them to gain entry. 

If their purpose is to fully experience the ELS, I hope they have to drive in rush-hour traffic.  Now THAT'S a human experience no one should miss.....Of course, buying a car and getting a driver's license might pose somewhat of a problem.

And if you or I were to make their acquaintance, wouldn't we at some point ask them about their families and where they grew up and what school they went to, etc etc etc.

Which means, of course, they would need to somehow have a full history of their past here on earth.  Or to have something already concocted.

You really need to think this through.  It's fraught with an amazing amount of problems.

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Reply #25 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 6:58pm
 
What I meant is that our souls are neither human or alien, they are entities that have different kinds of experiences.  Therefore, the golden beings Ginny speaks of could incarnate just as any of us do.

Chances are that after they do so they'll forget about who/what they were before they incarnated, just as we do.
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Reply #26 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 7:40pm
 
rondele wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 6:26pm:
Albert-

And I sure hope they don't need humans to serve as a kind of "portal" for them to gain entry. 

If their purpose is to fully experience the ELS, I hope they have to drive in rush-hour traffic.  Now THAT'S a human experience no one should miss.....Of course, buying a car and getting a driver's license might pose somewhat of a problem.
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Okay, I'll take this on. Hee hee. Who says a person needs a driver's license and a car? I've been car-free for an entire year. The old tank is sitting out there gathering rust, about to be donated. Otherwise, I am biking and busing, and occasionally chauffeured. All I'm saying, is, ....give peace a chance....wait a minute...back to the thread.
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Reply #27 - Jun 21st, 2010 at 7:57pm
 
Roger,

In a number of your posts you've expressed doubt regarding Bruce Moen's methods and discoveries and that Bob Monroe's OOBEs were somehow a more 'legitamite set of afterlife experiences' (kind of a Donald Beserk idea, right?). Have you ever read Monroe's books?

Ginny
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Reply #28 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 12:21am
 
Ginny wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:47pm:
Hi Justin,

I was a little cautious, a little in awe and greatly curious about them in the beginning. And with each visit I was able to subconsciously store more and more info until I had what I guess you could call a solid knowing about them. Actually I feel that's true with all afterlife exploration--that we come away each time with lots more than we initially realize. One of many things I found so fascinating about them was the fact that they were a little cautious, in awe and very curious about me as well. Wasn't anything special on my part. I just had 'ELS stuff' in my energy and they went after the what/how/why/where/when of it. 

What it all boiled down to was there we were at a busy crossroads getting acquainted, sharing information, helping with directions. Reminds me of the train stations in France and Spain when I backpacked my way around in the 70's. Thousands of others were doing the same and paperback books, maps, messages to friends were at every station in designated areas, with the understanding that it was all free to fellow travelers. Once read or used, you simply left it at another station for someone else to enjoy. When you had to sleep on hard benches for hours waiting on a train, those books came in handy Smiley.

I don't know if they were invited by others to journey here. I never got the impression that they operated from a place of superiority over humans. There was never a status thing going on. It seemed to me that the alien-human-thing pretty much dissolved between us after a few get-togethers. The only thing they were puzzled about with me was why I would ever caution them against experiencing the ELS.

It's always darkest before dawn. Perhaps this could end up being the human race's finest hour after all?

Much love,

Ginny


  Thank you for the reply.  Re: the highlighted part, i understand that, and i wasn't trying to imply that to begin with. 

  I guess i will use a human analogy.  When you or i have participated in retrievals of fellow stuck human consciousnesses, i'm guessing that neither of us do so with the attitude of superiority or the like in relation to the person temp. stuck--especially since we are aware that parts of ourselves have been stuck before too. 

But, you see someone suffering and you want to help, and in helping you not only lift them up, but also yourself--a beautiful reciprocity of PUUL. (i add a "universal" in with Bruce's PUL). 

  I suspect this may be partly the case with these Golden Beings as well as other E.T.'s which are sending in direct energy to incarnate as humans during a very change filled and momentous cycle.  My take btw on guidance and afterlife experience/knowing is a little more subtle that what Bruce Moen writes in his books. 

I've come to understand that there is a level of guidance called intuition that can inform one just as much as more sensory like experiences that Bruce and others talks about wherein one is "seeing" or what not something nonphysical.  Intuition is more subtle, one has to trust and be more still to receive direct knowing in that way.

  I have the perspective that there are relative degrees of stuckness or rather not to be negative, there are relative degrees of freedom.  I suspect that to some extent, these Golden beings were also relatively, slightly stuck, for the only state i view as completely and purely free is reflected by the emanation of the most incredibly pure, radiant White Light. 

  Freedoms just another word, of Sources love and consciousness, and honey if it aint that then it aint truly free Cheesy.  I suspect in their experiencing of the ELS and doing retrieval work here, they will fully and completely wake up to the above.

  In any case, it's all the same process as it is with us humans or any other Sibling out there--just some need different experiences and outer catalysts than others at different times.  They're not better, and we're not better, but it's also true to say that there are plenty of E.T. groups out there that are as a collective, less stuck than humanity as a collective.  These more free groups, act as helpers and retrievers in different capacities and i suspect Rosiland's guidance team is right about more of these will be incarnating directly as humans to help out the Whole.

 
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Reply #29 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 2:04pm
 
Ginny,

Thanks for starting this thread, I haven't really felt it was a "safe haven" for a while. Enjoyed the glow and wrote alot of responses to many posters to this thread and was just about to post them but when I checked who was currently on the board, Don was there. I guess his radar or followers tipped him off that his name was mentioned. 

So, I think I'll wait.

Your in my thoughts, Jean Undecided Kiss
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