hi i was watching a programme on tv last night and it was called the nostradamus effect,nostradamus said that napoleon is the 1st antichrist and hitler was the 2nd antichrist and that the third anti christ will be coming from america or the middle east.

also that he will pretend to be something he isn't and that he will have a vast army and will cause mass destruction and the devil will then be confronted by jesus with his army and the devil will be defeated and thrown into the abyss.

then the devil will escape once more to try again but will be defeated by god for the last time and will be thrown back into the abyss forever.

also before this happens jesus will come as a theif in the night and take all the good to heaven with him and after the devils defeat we will be all living in a beautiful world of love with perfect bodies that will never die.

i really beleive this because we are getting more and more severe earthquakes,the wheathers is all out of sorts and the ice is melting ect..ect and the revelation in the bible says all this and its really happening,all starting to follow the revelation.

love and god bless  love juditha

I actually think Paul (yes, "saint Paul") was the first Anti-Christ, as we are practicing Pauline Christianity.....
which has so very little to do with what Jeshua actually said and did.

Do not imagine there is a war and that God can actually lose. After all, all there is is just that-- all there is. And that would include even the Antichrist, if there is or was one. Just my 2 cents.

Thomas

And to think that's makes me at least twice as intelligent as you Don. Thank you. I'm not backpedaling at all. I was using the Jesus posts as an example. Your statements seams to be the most absurd Don here. Why are you trying to take over Juditha's posts with your rantings? Get it together and least move back to your own posts instead of plugging up hers with your trash talk.

Beau wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 9:12pm:
AGREED!

That was really uncalled for in this thread, Berserk2. Starcraft isn't even in the thread, and last I checked, an ex-member.

As for the OP, I can't really say I believe tv shows like that. It can be interesting and entertaining, but it's usually theories made up from thin air.

Beau, You keep talking like that and Don might start agreeing that your #3. Of course there is always the possibility that there is no anti Christ and its just another attempt from organised religions to instill fear and control the masses in an attempt to extort money for their own purposes.
In my little town the Church has just sold the property it sits on. It was in-trusted to them and put in their name many decades ago because it was thought that it would make it safe against evil and greed. Most likly to save some tax dollars too. The community built a church and community hall. Our communities gathering place. Built a house for the Preacher. Now some 65 years later, the church has decided that there isnt enough money to be made off our little community and they have bigger bills to worry about. (need I mention the little boys and girls they so ruthlessly beat and molested in this area, mostly First Nations probably because they were the easiest and generated the biggest dollar) So now they sold it and are fighting paying restitution to the community for building the structures and maintaining them for so long.  When I conciter the third antiChrist. Perhaps its time to look in the direction of the Church its self.

Beau & Hawkeye,

I'm finding that the new term is cyber-bullying. We don't want to date ourselves.

Juditha,

Please don't take anyone here too personally, esp. Don. Love your honest input-keep up the good work Sweet thing.

Love, Jean

P.S. I think our friend Don was more upset then we realize re:Starcraft

pps, Just found out that the Hitler thread is considered one of the most common pillars of every online debate according to R.Kyanke. But I didn't think that we were on this site to debate but rather to learn and share about the afterlife using our own honest personal perceptions of the world we see. But then again, what do I know

I have reposted this reply from my "Healing of a Cripple" where it is more appropriate to reply to the explanation of the debate here.

Hawkeye: "Many of these so-called miracles seem more likely just coincidence."
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In reply, I pointed to the paranormal aspects of 10 of my cases that make the "just coincidence" rationalization absurd.  Hawkeye immediately realizes this, and so, he backpedals and offers a different objection that is even more absurd:

Hawkeye: "These so-called miracles can be explained as helpers from other dimensions using the appearance of Jesus so as not to scare, or in orider make the apparition acceptable to the receiver."
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This evasion assumes that any astral appearances that don't fit the New Age Ghetto's preconceptions must be cases of spirit impersonation!  The claim stoops to the paralllel argument of some in the Fundamentalist Ghetto that any astral appearances that don't fit their preceptions must stem from demonic impersonators.  Both variations of this impersonation claim are designed to make verification, even in principle, impossible.  This ploy short-circuits any pretensions to an honest spiritual quest. 

But that is not what is most absurd about Hawkeye's backpedaling; he is critiquing the 10 paranormal experiences I cite from my 12, but invokes his New Age doctrine without even noting that only 2 of my 12 cases feature an apparition of Jesus!  Hawkeye's backpedaling blinds him to the fact that his revised theory no longer even addresses 10 of my 12 examples!  Duh!

Also, notice carefully that New Age fundamentalists constantly project their own propensity to pontificate on to me, someone who never pontificates about bilblical truth or the provabiility of his paranormal verifications.  I will continue to rub your nose in the irrationality of your rants until you display the ability or at least the inclination to offer reasoned positions.  Note that I always offer rationales for my positions, unlike my pontificating New Age friends.

Don