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Conscious Convergence in July 2010
Apr 29^th, 2010 at 4:54am

Hi folks,
anyone know anything on this subject?
Carl Johan Calleman is the guy who's probably the world's leading expert and interpreter of the Mayan Calendar, and he writes about it here:
http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/Vision_for_ConsciousConvergence.htm

Now the point that is interesting/concerning is the '100th monkey' effect; in other words if insufficient numbers of folks join in with this then we won't make the transition and the human race will soon destroy itself. He says that we're at the tipping point and there's a choice of two ways to go.
Does this mean that we won't get to the point RAM describes in his books 3000 years hence when the entire race has got its act together and is going on to other dimensions.
Is that future only in potential or already written? (if you see what I mean?)

Best wishes,
David.

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Reply #1 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:20am

Hi David,

Notice how your second paragraph takes what's in the first paragraph at full face value?

Have you heard previously of a 2010 deadline?

Maybe Calleman is trying to help with the consciousness shift by setting up a deadline and using the Mayan calendar's noteriety as extra impetus?

It just makes me wonder --not in the wondrous sense, but in the suspicious sense Wink

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Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: Conscious Convergence in July 2010 Reply #2 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:44am there are 3 (free) choices, David and Bets as I C it. You can go to fear you can go to PUL or you can go straight up the middle. think of it as a Y with a third line drawn right up the center of the Y draw a circle around it and turn it upside down...what do you have?
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Reply #3 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 11:02am

I was told by one well-versed in the 2012 convergence that the tipping point has already been met and we are now simply waiting for the time to pass, meanwhile picking up additional enlightenment and enlightened along the way. So thats what I am manifesting...that and fifth dimensional relationship bliss!

As for the 100th monkey theory...I think that is just really cool...when a collective reaches a certain level of consciousness power, insight and realization becomes clear despite distance and direct contact...although it should not surprise me as I believe other aspects of the same theory and the fact that consciousness pervades everything.

I read some study was done awhile back wherein a man had some cells removed and kept alive in a solution and removed many miles away. They strung up both the man and his separated cells with sensory devices and stimulated him in some way measuring the responses both with the man and his separated cells and the cells recorded the same reaction he exhibited at the very same time...essentially no reactionary separation despite miles of physical separation. I wonder if the old saw "we are all one" refers more to the consciousness of all things than simply on the soul level...it appears so.

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Reply #4 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 11:52am

Hi Bets,
I've heard via Calleman and Barbara Hand Clow's site that the Mayan calendar completes on 28th August 2011, and not the oft quoted December 21, 2012 (just in time to end the collective hangover in England after the ruinous orgy that will purport to be the Olympics; who's a cynic? Me! Grin

). Both look at the subject of time acceleration (I think we can all agree time seems to be moving ever faster?) and getting back and rejoining the galactic community. I think Calleman's approach is to just look for what he perceives as the real message, and not rely on 2012 doom and gloom stuff.

If you look on both their sites they come up with some pretty compelling theories as a result of their studies and work. However, in my more depressed moments (I have them occasionally! Sad

) I just wonder if it's been a case of too little too late and that our future is anything but assured.
Obviously (maybe not obviously) if this earth life system fails we get to do it all over again elsewhere?
Does this link in with the Focus 34/35 gathering?
I don't know, that's why I'm asking you fabulous folks!

Best wishes as always,
David.

betson wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:20am:

Hi David,

Notice how your second paragraph takes what's in the first paragraph at full face value?

Have you heard previously of a 2010 deadline?

Maybe Calleman is trying to help with the consciousness shift by setting up a deadline and using the Mayan calendar's noteriety as extra impetus?

It just makes me wonder --not in the wondrous sense, but in the suspicious sense Wink

Bets

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: Conscious Convergence in July 2010 Reply #5 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 12:47pm hey man, I think our best situation possible is to focus on what's here and now. And take that ride when we get there. And it will be a stupendous ride I predict. Listen to Around The Sun by REM sometime. I meditate to it sometimes. Very cool and insightful. best and love, Beau
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Reply #7 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:49pm

goobygirl wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 1:55pm:

The 100th monkey never happened. It was a theory...but not an actual event...just sayin'..

...darn it...well, could a thousand monkeys with a thousand computers write Shakespeare's (Marlowe's) Sonnets in a thousand years? Or is that just a theory, too? Now I'm gonna hafta reoccupy the dunce chair in Don's New Age Ghetto...three steps forward, two back...at least I actually saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada in Trader Vic's...and his hair was perfect...

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Reply #8 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:59pm

I don't know who Carl Calleman is, but I agree with what he says about not just waiting around for things to change, we need to be active participants.

I believe it is a good idea to have designated days as raise consciousness days.

I haven't studied what the Mayans say, I go by the spirit messages I received.

I've received a number of messages stating that significant changes will happen this year, mainly in October and something in June. I recently received a message that something will happen in 2012. I guess it isn't a one event process.

Regarding the 100th monkey phenomena, I've read that that story isn't true; nevertheless, I've received messages stating that it does apply, without the 100th monkey phenomena being directly referrred to.

The messages stated that if enough people get to the point where they live according to love to a significant extent, it will effect and change this world vibrationally, and this will lead to a new and positive way of manifestation.

Regarding 3,000, in his book Descent into Death, Howard Storm speaks of an idealic way of life taking place in this world in a couple (or few) hundred years. He was surprised to see that rather than a super technological society existing in the 22nd (or 23rd) century, numerous small communities will exist, they will live according to spiritual principles, live in harmony with nature, healing will take place spiritually, people will be in contact with spirit realms of existence and alien beings, people will be able to travel anywhere by thought, and when they feel as if they lived in this world long enough, they'll leave the body they used without it having to die in some way.

Howard found it hard to believe that this world would be so wonderful so soon, but he was told this is what God wants and this is how it will be.

Or in other words, we don't have to wait until 3,000.

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Reply #9 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 3:05pm

I'd like to add another point. Another thing that keeps this world down, is when caring people feel as if there is no hope for its welfare. Rather than adding a positive vibe to this world, they add a depressed vibe.

If they are able to determine that positive changes are going to take place, then even if these changes require us to first go through some difficult growing periods, they have a reason to feel positive. Therefore, they can contribute a positive vibration to this world. Something I'm trying to work on. Wink

What a wonderful place this world would be if everybody lived according to qualities such as love and respect.

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: Conscious Convergence in July 2010 Reply #10 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 6:09pm Amen, Albert. The hundredth Monkey is a metaphor, to explain collective consciousness. So in that respect it is true.
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Reply #11 - Apr 30^th, 2010 at 1:29am

A year or so ago I read a non-metaphysical book, "The Chaos Point: The World at the Crossroads" by Ervin Laszlo. Based on a historical analysis of civilizations, Laszlo's theory is that the world goes through periods of great stability where making a significant change is very difficult. But cyclically civilizations start to lose stability and approach a "chaos point" where it takes much less effort to effect significant change. He believed around 2012 was such a chaos point so that as we get closer those on the side of good could more easily shift things - as could those on the side of evil. But unless the forces of good (and I don't think I am using his terms here at all) exerted the effort, then the world was in for a fall. Maybe a bit 100th monkeyish. But no aliens, no Mayans - just us. Well worth a read. And well worth exerting the effort on the side of good, light, justice, compassion and all those positives.

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Reply #12 - Apr 30^th, 2010 at 5:48am

yeah, Pat, I would say it's all down to us. We are under our own thumbs here. The Mayans and the monkeys are metaphors that symbolize a change. I don't know if I would use the word evil. To me its more like fear and there are two sides to fear.: Those who are afraid they will perish and those who are afraid that this is all there is and can't see ON into the beauty that lies ahead.

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Reply #13 - Apr 30^th, 2010 at 9:51am

recoverer wrote on Apr 29^th, 2010 at 2:59pm:

The messages stated that if enough people get to the point where they live according to love to a significant extent, it will effect and change this world vibrationally, and this will lead to a new and positive way of manifestation.

Regarding 3,000, in his book Descent into Death, Howard Storm speaks of an idealic way of life taking place in this world in a couple (or few) hundred years. He was surprised to see that rather than a super technological society existing in the 22nd (or 23rd) century, numerous small communities will exist, they will live according to spiritual principles, live in harmony with nature, healing will take place spiritually, people will be in contact with spirit realms of existence and alien beings, people will be able to travel anywhere by thought, and when they feel as if they lived in this world long enough, they'll leave the body they used without it having to die in some way.

Howard found it hard to believe that this world would be so wonderful so soon, but he was told this is what God wants and this is how it will be.

Or in other words, we don't have to wait until 3,000.

I have heard alot along those same lines...that there is to be a shift in dimension from the 3d to the 5th. This would enable those who already understand how to live in harmony, with love and caring for each other and their world, to move into, or maybe create a society in which this is the norm as opposed to an ideal. Some people I have talked to expect 2012 to be the shift point, and the collective consciousness has already reached its necessary tipping point. I hope so...

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Reply #14 - Apr 30^th, 2010 at 10:02am

Pat E. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2010 at 1:29am:

A year or so ago I read a non-metaphysical book, "The Chaos Point: The World at the Crossroads" by Ervin Laszlo. Based on a historical analysis of civilizations, Laszlo's theory is that the world goes through periods of great stability where making a significant change is very difficult. But cyclically civilizations start to lose stability and approach a "chaos point" where it takes much less effort to effect significant change. He believed around 2012 was such a chaos point so that as we get closer those on the side of good could more easily shift things - as could those on the side of evil. But unless the forces of good (and I don't think I am using his terms here at all) exerted the effort, then the world was in for a fall. Maybe a bit 100th monkeyish. But no aliens, no Mayans - just us. Well worth a read. And well worth exerting the effort on the side of good, light, justice, compassion and all those positives.

That makes alot of sense to me. Is he the same author that wrote "The Akashic Field"? Along the same lines in that it puts a current issue in a spiritual context, except in the Field, it is attempting to unite physics theories (relativity and quantum physics) with the concept of the Akasha, or the conscious ether that is part of everything.

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