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bird Junior Member Offline Posts: 86	the matthew books Apr 28^th, 2010 at 2:25pm has anyone ever heard of them? http://www.matthewbooks.com/ real deal? bs?
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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #1 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 7:59pm looks pretty cool to me.
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Reply #2 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 8:18pm

When it comes to Jesus' crucifixion:

Seth (Jane Roberts) says he wasn't crucified, a hoax took place and somebody was crucified in his place. Seth also claims that because Jesus wasn't able to convince his disciples that he was still alive (supposedly, according to Seth, his disciples weren't able to recognize him), he decided to end his physical life shortly after the supposed hoax crucifixion took place.

Elias (Mary Innes) says Jesus didn't die on the cross and died of natural causes at the age of 51.

Matthew (Suzanne Ward) says Jesus was whipped rather than crucified.

Sylvia Browne has yet another story. In fact, she contradicted herself, because on one occasion she stated that Jesus died at the age of 33 and on another occasion he died at the age of 86.

Or in other words, the above sources not only contradict each other, they contradict themselves.

If one argues it isn't an important matter, then why did these sources go to such great length to give their explanation as to what supposedly happened?

When I read Matthew's claim, I didn't feel compelled to find out what other fables he (?) has to share.

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Reply #3 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 9:14pm

I am just as likely to buy any one of those stories as the one that is in the Bible, Albert. It was ultimately Constantin who decided how Jesus died...if he did. One book over another is not the answer and I don't feel the crew see fiction is important really. It's the man's life that made a difference. Just my two cents. I haven't checked out Mathew's site yet...except briefly. I know you are a believer in the Crucifixion and I respect that even if my post is a bit flip. To say those accounts lack merit is to say they ALL lack merit. IMHO. Best to you though, and I'm very glad you're here. I got out finally yesterday. Pretty cool, no Jesus though.

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recoverer Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 5027 Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 9:29pm Beau: Even if one of the sources I mentioned is accurate, then the other sources are inaccurate. If they can get such a key event wrong while providing many details, then they can get just about anything wrong to a significant extent. Therefore, their credibility is very questionable.
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StoneColdTrue Full Member Offline ALK Member Posts: 237 Birmingham, AL Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 9:56pm Other than all that, everything else I've read on the site doesnt seem to contradict a whole lot past what most people here have come to understand of the afterlife. Seems pretty cool from what I saw of the chapter samples.
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Reply #6 - Apr 28^th, 2010 at 10:19pm

Everyone's credibility is questionable Albert. Otherwise why would we even need this board? It's just the way I see it. The BuyBull is questionable to me. I use that term which I realize is a mean thing to say to make the point that every time that book is brought up to me that is what I hear. I'm just wired that way. I mean you no offense, honestly.

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Reply #7 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 1:29am

Ok, let me just say that scrolling through Matthew's most recent messages he tackles subjects as diverse as the Tea Party movement, global warming, and even the Goldman Sachs Washington hearings.

Not to be cynical here, but her son began to give her messages in 1994. Most sources I've read or heard about talk about a spiritual progression, one in which the soul in the afterlife moves on. Yet here, he and his mother appear to be sort of like CNN or FOX news, discussing the latest trends more than 16 years after he first made contact and some 24 years after his death.

There is a sense that time is different in the afterlife and that concerns change from the material things to a person's loves. I just don't get a sense here that this communication is real, but hey its just my opinion.

Could the woman have latched onto a "poser," or be accessing a different state of mind? I don't know. I just don't get the sense that this communication would remain unchanged and so newsworthy for all these years from the other side.

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #8 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 5:45am The Poser is entirely possible Matthew in my opinion. I have to read it to comment any more I guess. Everyone wants to be able to air their views. She could just be mistaken, but charging for books always makes me a little leery anyway...well, not bruce's but stilll....you know what I mean.
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Reply #9 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:13am

Hi

We've seen -- and experienced -- that sometimes we humans get what seems to be a valid communication from Afterlife sources , and then we go on and interpret and add to it, not realizing we've lost the afterlife connection. Whether it's wishful thinking or deceit is hard for listeners/readers to determine sometimes.

I've come to somewhat trust my inner reactions --if the stuff seems inspiring and uplifting, it's worthwhile, something I needed to hear. ( Now that I've read Bruce's, not many others add much.)

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #10 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 9:41am I practice the K principle or Kiss, Keep it simple stupid. I AM and You ARE Period
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Reply #11 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 10:54am

For whatever it's worth, I don't believe that being a resident of the afterlife suddenly affords you the answers to all of life's mysteries. I think there are probably a lot of misguided souls, tons of erroneous information, much of which can be shaped by the realities one may create for him/herself in the afterlife.

I remember having a conversation with my mom, who passed away in 1996, just last year as I visited with a psychic. I was surprised at some of the things she said. I had this expectation that since she had passed on, she should suddenly be some kind of enlightened being with a much different perspective than me. I'm sure that's true on some levels, but what I learned from that session was that my mom seemed to be at a particular stage of her spiritual development and perhaps was not aware or ready for greater enlightenment. Or maybe the psychic was imposing some of her own beliefs and muddying the communication. Either way, you kind of get what I'm saying.

I just wonder what makes Matthew, or anyone in the afterlife for that matter, an authority on our world's affairs.

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #12 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 12:44pm right on bird. It's all opinion. we do the best we can.
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Reply #13 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 12:57pm

Certainly some sources of information are much more trustworthy than other sources of information.

If one doesn't understand that such a distinction exists, one is liable to be lacking in discrimination. It is hard to have discrimination, if one makes excuses for the fraudulent sources of information that exist.

One doesn't help anybody when one makes excuses in such a way, not even the person who is responsible for the fraudulent information, because eventually such a person will have to deal with what he or she sowed.

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Beau Super Member Offline Posts: 1176 Greenville SC Gender:	Re: the matthew books Reply #14 - Apr 29^th, 2010 at 6:07pm remember what you just wrote.
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