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Apr 21st, 2010 at 12:13pm
 
I say the Grays are Elves and you can be Santa Claus if you take your own Reigns. They are eternal children just like we are. They will give what they get. Give them fear and they'll act on it. Give them love and they will respond in kind,  I predict. Thoughts?

I posted this here because I say The Grays are related to our understanding of the afterlife. So if you want this post moved you'll have to do it yourself.

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Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 12:56pm
 
Beau wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 12:13pm:
I say the Grays are Elves and you can be Santa Claus if you take your own Reigns. They are eternal children just like we are. They will give what they get. Give them fear and they'll act on it. Give them love and they will respond in kind,  I predict. Thoughts?

I posted this here because I say The Grays are related to our understanding of the afterlife. So if you want this post moved you'll have to do it yourself.

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And your power of "creating" metaphor is exponentially greater than mine!  I think we find out relatively soon, oh, and the post seems appropritate for this forum to me...
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Reply #2 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 3:35pm
 
Yeah I am thinking this all comes to light in due time. If they do exist, then the government obviously has the answers already. All the millions of UFO sightings, the perfection we see in crop circles..."they're out there." I think there is a lot more than we even think associated with higher lifeforms. It won't surprise me if it turns out that our biology and the earliest cultures were influenced by aliens. Some people believe they are angels.

The only thing I actually know for sure is that there is much more to life, why we are here, how it was all created, and what did it than most people really conceive. Like I've said, everyone is going to have a big "Oh wow" moment at some point in the future.
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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:17am
 
I think they just might be little angels and able to look like anything they want....including children. Make your peace with them I guess. I think they are here to stay.

I'm neither light or dark, I'm only shades of gray Wink

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Reply #4 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 7:59pm
 
Well, I think the greys/grays reptillians etc. are all made up and people having hallucinations/fantasies.

(other planets containing life however... yes, that most likely exists.)

My reason for this belief I typed out below... I know it's a lot but I feel I should back up my extreme opinion with some real information.


As of 14 April 2010, 452 extrasolar planets have been confirmed.

Currently, Gliese 581 d, the fourth planet of the red dwarf star Gliese 581 (approximately 20 light years from Earth), appears to be the best example yet discovered of a possible terrestrial exoplanet that orbits within the habitable zone surrounding its star.

Out of this VAST universe the odds of another planet being in the "habitable zone" and containing life definitely IS a possibility.

As far as we can tell the closest possible alien life would still be....light years away from us. That would mean a minimum of 20+ years traveling near the speed of light.

Let's just say that based on our science which is really solid knowledge most likely the other life forms are unable to travel  the distance. Honestly, I don't imagine space travelers willing to travel years 10+ 20+ 30+ 40+ (years in fact) which would be necessary in order to reach us.

Sure, I will admit that maybe they have technology beyond ours.

But, I doubt it. You just cannot go the speed of light or even too close to it.

Here is an excerpt on what happens when you TRY to go the speed of light:
Let's assume that your engines are powered by tapping into some external energy source, so you don't have to worry about carrying fuel. As you get going faster and faster in your starship, you are putting more and more energy into the ship by speeding it up, so the ship keeps getting heavier. (Again, I should really be saying "massier" not "heavier" since there is no gravity in space.) By the time you reach 90 percent of the speed of light, the ship has so much energy in it that it actually has about twice the mass as the ship has at rest. It gets harder and harder to propel with the engines, because it's so heavy. As you get closer to the speed of light, you begin to get diminishing returns — the more energy the ship has, the heavier it gets, so the more energy that must be put into it to speed it up just a little bit, the heavier it gets, and so on.

The effect is even worse than you might think because of what is going on inside the ship. After all, everything inside the ship, including you, is speeding up, getting more and more energy, and getting heavier and heavier. In fact, you and all the machines on the ship are getting pretty sluggish. Your watch, for instance, which used to weigh about half an ounce, now weighs about forty tons. And the spring inside your watch really hasn't gotten any stronger, so the watch has slowed way down so that it only ticks once an hour. Not only has your watch slowed down, but the biological clock inside your head has also slowed down. You don't notice this because your neurons are getting heavier, and your thoughts are slowed down by exactly the same amount as the watch. As far as you are concerned, your watch is just ticking along at the same rate as before. (Physicists call this "relativistic time contraction.") The other thing that is slowed down is all of the machinery that is powering your engines (the dilithium crystals are getting heavier and slower, too). So your ship is getting heavier, your engines are getting sluggish, and the closer you get to the speed of light, the worse it gets. It just gets harder and harder and harder, and no matter how hard you try, you just can't quite get over the light barrier. And that's why you can't go faster than the speed of light.

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The only REAL possibility I would say, and this would be CRACKPOT theory mind you... is that matter does not exist and the aliens can teleport from one spot to another because they are not really moving.
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Reply #5 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:12pm
 
I read a novel when I was a kid about a "tesseract" which transported you instantaneaously through time/space and deposited you in an inhabitable planet that had an alternative culture.  That also obviated any "light speed" limitation, but it seems that interdimensional transportation requires nothing more than the ability to pass between the lines of demarcation energetically.  While lightspeed may be a limiting physical factor, it seems that it doesn't matter when dealing from a spiritual level.  Our level of physics and scientific understanding of our environment is rudimentary at best and E=MC2 is a good theory for the miniscule reality it adresses, but I have issues placing any bets on its true validity.  Remember when the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it?  It was not that long ago...

With that, you tend to analyse the idea that any reality is simply illusion set up by the consciousness of the person/soul using it...in our case, the entire conscious planet is sharing the illusion to fulfill our needs and desires for experience.  My view of the crack in the curtain remains a defining point in my life, but it hasn't granted me any greater knowledge other than the understanding that there is something on the other side of the reality we see that is dramatically greater than anything we can imagine.

Grays or greys indeed!  They simply stepped through the tesseract and stopped in for a beer...they just kept looking at the side of my face in the spotlight so clear...later on when the crowd thinned out I was just about to do the same...they were standing there in back of my chair saying to me "don't I know your name?"  Maybe Bob Dylan is a gre(a)y?  I know they're here, and I am not getting any negativity .
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Reply #6 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:18pm
 
Yes, the book you speak of is called "A wrinkle in time."
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Yes, the book you speak of is called "A wrinkle in time."


That's it!  I loved that book and talk about blowing the mind of a twelve year old...it actually made sense...
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Reply #8 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:57pm
 
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Well, I think the greys/grays reptillians etc. are all made up and people having hallucinations/fantasies.

(other planets containing life however... yes, that most likely exists.)

My reason for this belief I typed out below... I know it's a lot but I feel I should back up my extreme opinion with some real information.


As of 14 April 2010, 452 extrasolar planets have been confirmed.

Currently, Gliese 581 d, the fourth planet of the red dwarf star Gliese 581 (approximately 20 light years from Earth), appears to be the best example yet discovered of a possible terrestrial exoplanet that orbits within the habitable zone surrounding its star.

Out of this VAST universe the odds of another planet being in the "habitable zone" and containing life definitely IS a possibility.

As far as we can tell the closest possible alien life would still be....light years away from us. That would mean a minimum of 20+ years traveling near the speed of light.

Let's just say that based on our science which is really solid knowledge most likely the other life forms are unable to travel  the distance. Honestly, I don't imagine space travelers willing to travel years 10+ 20+ 30+ 40+ (years in fact) which would be necessary in order to reach us.

Sure, I will admit that maybe they have technology beyond ours.

But, I doubt it. You just cannot go the speed of light or even too close to it.

Here is an excerpt on what happens when you TRY to go the speed of light:
Let's assume that your engines are powered by tapping into some external energy source, so you don't have to worry about carrying fuel. As you get going faster and faster in your starship, you are putting more and more energy into the ship by speeding it up, so the ship keeps getting heavier. (Again, I should really be saying "massier" not "heavier" since there is no gravity in space.) By the time you reach 90 percent of the speed of light, the ship has so much energy in it that it actually has about twice the mass as the ship has at rest. It gets harder and harder to propel with the engines, because it's so heavy. As you get closer to the speed of light, you begin to get diminishing returns — the more energy the ship has, the heavier it gets, so the more energy that must be put into it to speed it up just a little bit, the heavier it gets, and so on.

The effect is even worse than you might think because of what is going on inside the ship. After all, everything inside the ship, including you, is speeding up, getting more and more energy, and getting heavier and heavier. In fact, you and all the machines on the ship are getting pretty sluggish. Your watch, for instance, which used to weigh about half an ounce, now weighs about forty tons. And the spring inside your watch really hasn't gotten any stronger, so the watch has slowed way down so that it only ticks once an hour. Not only has your watch slowed down, but the biological clock inside your head has also slowed down. You don't notice this because your neurons are getting heavier, and your thoughts are slowed down by exactly the same amount as the watch. As far as you are concerned, your watch is just ticking along at the same rate as before. (Physicists call this "relativistic time contraction.") The other thing that is slowed down is all of the machinery that is powering your engines (the dilithium crystals are getting heavier and slower, too). So your ship is getting heavier, your engines are getting sluggish, and the closer you get to the speed of light, the worse it gets. It just gets harder and harder and harder, and no matter how hard you try, you just can't quite get over the light barrier. And that's why you can't go faster than the speed of light.

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The only REAL possibility I would say, and this would be CRACKPOT theory mind you... is that matter does not exist and the aliens can teleport from one spot to another because they are not really moving.


We do already have the ability to travel at or very close to the speed of light. It's only a theory that it is impossible to travel faster and the theory of relativity is just part of the laws of PHYSICS. Physics being the dealing with matter and what we know so far of it. But wouldn't you agree that MANY theories have changed over time? At this point I'm willing to believe that anything is possible but just has to be discovered.

Your model starship wouldn't react the way you suggested if it was made out of a different material. Perhaps lifeforms on another planet have resources that aren't affected the same ways ours are. There's just no way we can really be absolute on anything.
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Reply #9 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 10:58pm
 
Um, all the planets are inhabited. Just because we can't see them does not mean they are not there. Carbon is not the only based life form in the Universe. Life as we know it perhaps not, but there is life. Even the moon isn't dead, you just have to use your imagination to figure out how this can be. It can be and is. I'm sure of it. They're hiding to see what we will F-up next.
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usetawuz wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 9:12pm:
I read a novel when I was a kid about a "tesseract" which transported you instantaneaously through time/space and deposited you in an inhabitable planet that had an alternative culture.  That also obviated any "light speed" limitation, but it seems that interdimensional transportation requires nothing more than the ability to pass between the lines of demarcation energetically.  While lightspeed may be a limiting physical factor, it seems that it doesn't matter when dealing from a spiritual level.  Our level of physics and scientific understanding of our environment is rudimentary at best and E=MC2 is a good theory for the miniscule reality it adresses, but I have issues placing any bets on its true validity.  Remember when the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it?  It was not that long ago...

With that, you tend to analyse the idea that any reality is simply illusion set up by the consciousness of the person/soul using it...in our case, the entire conscious planet is sharing the illusion to fulfill our needs and desires for experience.  My view of the crack in the curtain remains a defining point in my life, but it hasn't granted me any greater knowledge other than the understanding that there is something on the other side of the reality we see that is dramatically greater than anything we can imagine.

Grays or greys indeed!  They simply stepped through the tesseract and stopped in for a beer...they just kept looking at the side of my face in the spotlight so clear...later on when the crowd thinned out I was just about to do the same...they were standing there in back of my chair saying to me "don't I know your name?"  Maybe Bob Dylan is a gre(a)y?  I know they're here, and I am not getting any negativity .


This was a great post. You're right on point.
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Reply #11 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:38am
 
Okay maybe not all the planets are inhabited by life, but I think the greys have been here longer than we have and they only look like little gray men (no gender?) because they know this is what we expect an alien race to look like. They treat us as we treat them. Fear, scares them and so they act accordingly and Love (agape) helps them release what they want to show us telepathically. It must be very frustrating for them to come upon a human who is so afraid that they can't telecommunicate with them. And some people don't live by the Golden Rule very well and thus find them themselves the victims of a living hell that is really in their own mind just as it is when we cross over. We bring our punishments on ourselves-literally.
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Reply #12 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:14am
 
Wow, such an unexpected use of the  "Tangled Up in Blue" lyrics by Bob Dylan. I was reading, and thinking "hey, this sounds so familiar!" Cheesy

Anyway, the grays might exist, but I doubt the advanced crop circles are real. They are rather easily made by people with nothing better to do. If UFOs have landed here, then the marks left behind are probably just incidental to the kind of craft they use. Honestly, why would they bother drawing stuff on the ground?
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Reply #13 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:26am
 
Starboom, sorry, Startcraft...damn, Starcraft:

Belief that the Crop Circles are fake comes down the psi uncertainty principle. Tom Campbell talks about it a lot in MY Big TOE. You really should check it out, but no pressure dude.

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Reply #14 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 10:40am
 
I watched the whole my big toe cambell thing. It was good at the beginning and the end half started to really deteriorate IMO... don't get me wrong, it really did open my mind. I am starting to think now that I was actually nothing, I became this living being to become something. (even though nothing IS also a form of something.. it's a yin yang universe... if it's white it's black etc. I am evolved and experienced, I have become more than I was and I will continue to become more, and part of this process of becoming more, is shedding the  body which holds me back. I will die to become more.
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