Interesting Alan.  Early in my quest I asked alot of those same questions, however my experiences have provided answers that the author may not be ready to believe...not that he can't, but rather because he shouldn't.  It may not be his time or meet his soul's intent at this time or this life.  Some are here for different reasons, and this might not be his.  In my mind, I have been shown and have experienced things that give me complete faith in reincarnation and the afterlife and in the "system" I have discussed in other threads here.  I know it doesn't work for all, and I have no problem qualifying my beliefs as my own and no one elses.  But like any belief or opinion, one must rely on faith and an internal understanding of what one feels is right...the tangible evidence, the physical proof, the certifiable facts that will enable all to verify reincarnation and the afterlife as a reality will not emerge until we each pass this dimension.

I don't believe in soul transmigration which takes up his final two paragraphs, but whatever...I have my answers to his initial posits, and am comfortable with that. 

I did a bit of thinking about this system today. I haven't really enjoyed the idea of reincarnation, but using my conscious thoughts I see things in my life where it could make sense and that me not liking it is just ego anyway. So it really doesn't matter whether I like it or not, because whatever is inevitable will be inevitable. I don't know yet for a fact that reincarnation is a process, but I have to be open to it just because of that.

So here's kind of my current understanding of it, and anyone please feel free comment and/or correct me.

The actual "human being" is the soul. That is our true nature and our true form. The "afterlife" is our actual domain, which is basically a place of energy and matter which can be willed to appear as the soul wishes, pending upon the state of the soul mind. But souls do not progress the same way there as we do in the physical world, so we become part of the physical world because it was created as a training ground for the soul.

We might of course have to question "who or what created the soul and where did it come from?" Those are questions for later, much like finding the nature of what we refer to as "God."

Every generation contains both new and old souls. I think it's quite safe to say there are plenty of people whose souls are experiencing their first time on Earth. This would answer a lot of questions I have had on people's states of mind and consciousness. Before a new or old soul incarnates, they should have a general plan for what they want to accomplish.

The soul incarnates into a physical body and begins with a fresh mind. This happens because it's the most practical way to learn. If we were to begin with an understanding of our true form, it would impair the learning and the experience of the life. The soul lives out its human existence and it may or may not ever reach a high conscious before the body dies. The soul then gets a life review and analyzes what it learned and what it needs to learn or would now like to experience. Reincarnation.

Souls have a certain frequency and because souls/humans are social creatures, we tend to stay together. I've heard a good bit about and read about having a higher connection with the people in your life. The old souls in your life were in your life before. The new souls are likely to be with you should you reincarnate in the next life. This is a very interesting system if you maybe think about your parents.

I don't feel like my parents are even close to my level of consciousness or spirituality. They pretty much just live life. I had first thought this meant my soul was older than theirs but now I see it doesn't really work like that. When they reincarnate they will probably reach a higher consciousness faster than I did. You can see that newer generations are getting smarter and they progress fast...one could say that technology and advancement of the world is what contributes to that but technology and advancement is connected to us. It serves a purpose as we do, more than just entertainment. If I have a child, it may contain a new soul or an old soul. Probably will depend on how I attribute to its plan.

Now I have thought a bit about new souls, and how they wouldn't be able to experience like old souls because they didn't live life in specific periods of time. I've heard about periods of the past still existing in other dimensions of the afterlife, so perhaps a new soul is allowed to venture there if it wishes. Theres still some contradiction to how that could work...or all souls only experience in this dimension only. There is certainly plenty of cultures and places in the world so incredibly different that not living in the past wouldn't affect experience.

So I suppose we keep reincarnating until we no longer want to. Free will still exists. One might say then "well then I'm not going to reincarnate." That's a premature thought. You'll have a different outlook once you have died and understood. But there are the arrogant, unwilling, and confused. Say hello to ghosts. They'll do their thing until some business is attended to or they quit acting like it isn't real.

But eventually, we will have progressed the soul to the point that it's done with the training ground. I imagine that the more consciousness and spirituality (absent of religion) that one achieves, the closer it may understand not wanting to reincarnate and continue progress in the afterlife.

That's basically what I've come to understand thus far, and I have no idea how accurate it is so fire away.

Thank you, Beau. That means a lot. This has all been pretty substantial to my life because at the beginning of this year I had none of these concepts or understandings. This is the most remarkable thing to me because I was an atheist for half of my life, an agnostic without spirituality for over a year up until this year, and now I have this incredible assurance in my spirituality.

This forum has helped me to deepen my thoughts, and allow me to develop. Just look at where I've come from my very first post. I write a lot but its necessary for my expression. I feel part of my purpose for my discovering isn't just for me, but to assist other people. I decided about a month ago I was going to start processing a book for the purpose of inspiring my generation and all others who would find it beneficial to their lives.

We have a great power with thought and it is best utilized when focused away from the self. I see now that all of the events of my life were leading me to this moment. Suddenly everything makes sense, and I knew all along I was on the right path. Even the unplanned events make a difference.

If we need to simplify it all, I think what we can truly understand is that the constant aspect of everything in life is change and improvement. If someone ever asks what our purpose is and why we exist and all those philosophical questions...well I can't feel more confident than that answer. Improvement.

Also Beau, your actor/self metaphor was the first time I had seen it and I found it to be pretty inspiring. I'm a big fan of metaphors because they're the easiest way to help people understand things. It was your personal elaboration that assisted my perspective and I've started to present it to people, because even from outside a spiritual standpoint it can give perspective on just a different and better way to view life.

I definitely need to start doing some reading. I have actually done none other than websites and internet research. It's next on the list. It's easier for me to concentrate directly on my conscious thoughts for now while also dealing with my personal responsibilities.

As for the metaphor, I think it still works without even having a spiritual understanding. I have a lot of people on my frequency who are not spiritual and presenting anything beyond the physical world either confuses them or they just  refuse to listen. But I've considered that metaphor just as a means for allowing a non spiritual person to see how they can take control of their life and quit moping through it.

I presented it to a guy without any hints that the actor was the soul, but instead presented it as just a general metaphor for increasing consciousness and understanding how he could make sense of and enhance his life by keeping the metaphor in his conscious.

Like instead of thinking that your life is beyond your control and allowing the woes of society to drag you down, recognize that the environment of your life is only a stage set up and your job is to act impromptu. I even told him that life is difficult to the same extent of having to be on a stage and perform impromptu for an audience. There is a lot of pressure there, but even more pressure if he doesn't even recognize that he is in control. That's the beauty of the performance after all. The stage and the other characters may be beyond your control, but you get to decide your own script.

Life sucks because we make it suck. It's all in the power of the mind. If you're going to let life beat you, then you are accepting weakness. Take control of your life and become the actor and give the performance you believe is the most suitable for your character and know beforehand that no great story is without drama, so expect it and deal with it. 

He thought it was an interesting way to look at life. It will sink in one of these days.

Again I italicise my comments to your missive...

StoneColdTrue wrote on Apr 16^th, 2010 at 2:14am:


I hope this helps...again, no judgment, just thoughts and ideas!

Thanks, Beau.  Stone did the heavy lifting, but I think the picture is becoming pretty clear.

I would only comment on the animal stuff. To me, Consciousness is consciousness no matter what. A dog appears to have a less developed consciousness because it's brain only allows for so much decision space, but place that consciousness in a machine (brain) with a larger decision space and you've got a human. I think we are more than just ourselves and all creatures share this thing called consciousness at every level. I hope that's clear. If not I'll try to find some stuff that Tom Campbell writes on his board because this subject comes up there from time to time.

Yours,
Beau