Quote:I read all that but the gist of it seems to be that you are saying God created the beginning of space and time and God was not created, God always existed.
Your main reason is because everything has a cause.
What caused God?
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Just a couple main points here to respond to your post. First, as for your statement that
Quote: Your main reason is because everything has a cause.
Actually that's not what I'm saying; I'm being more precise than that. I'm arguing that
everything that comes into existence has a cause. This is called the Principle of Sufficient Reason, and is supported by the experience of all of humanity. So again, the universe came into existence, and so it had a cause. God did not come into existence, and so your following question
Quote: What caused God?
misunderstands the finer point that I am making. God is the ultimate uncaused agent you could say. There is a first cause, something that prevents us from arguing back to infinity from now. By the way, this is Kalaam's Cosmological Argument as recently championed by William Lane Craig.
An additional point to get at what you might be implying (that we can have an infinite amount of causes), let me explain why an infinity of causes has been shown to be a false idea. First of all, there is not an infinite number of physical things in the universe. The thing I would guess we have the most of in the universe might be say an electron, or a proton, or maybe some quark. But there is a finite number of even those. There is no physical thing that we have an infinite amount of in the universe. In terms of events (= time) being the infinite number of things that we are talking about, that is false as shown by something called Hilbert's Hotel (you can look this up for more examples of what I'm about to talk about if you like).
Imagine for a moment that there is a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms, with an infinite amount of occupants in those rooms. Suppose someone walks up to the manager, and asks if he could have a room. Certainly the manager replies, I have an infinite amount of rooms. Everyone shuffles from one room to the next: room 1 goes to 2, 2 to 3, and so on, and since there is an infinite number of rooms then it simply won't matter; we won't be limited. So the new guest can take the first room. However, isn't there a contradiction? Aren't there more people in the hotel after the new guest added? But in another sense there are still the same amount of people; there are still an infinite amount of hotel guests. The solution to the contradiction is that at least one of the premises are false. Our premise here is that you can have an infinite amount of hotel rooms, and hotel guests. Clearly then we would say the premise is false.
Or a more extreme example; say with the same hotel you wanted to make room, and got rid of all of the odd number room guests. You would still have the same number of guests, an infinite amount! But how can this be? We just got rid of a multitude, an infinity of guests.... it leads to a contradiction, meaning in philosophical terms that our premise must be false. In other words, there can not be an infinite number of things in the universe because it leads to contradictions, including things such as events. I would say on top of this, we know scientifically that the universe had a beginning.
So the question
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What caused God?
is simply incorrect, because you cannot have an infinite regression of things, and because my argument for the existence of God does not rest on an infinite regression as you seem to be suggesting. God is what you get when you stop the regression; the initial first cause of everything, or as has been said before, the ground of all existence.