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Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:15pm
 
Good Evening Bruce

Did you, on your out of body trips, ever met somebody of the galactic federation? does it exist? it it for real? i read that millions of ships are going to land on earth and that everybody is leaving the planet. but, reading and believing what other people write is believe system. to believe is not being sure. i believe your out of body experiences because i did do this myself in the past. so, please Bruce, can you clear this up for me. The galactic federation, is it real, did you met them? how do they look and are they really going to land here. They also say that the government is already aware of them and that they hide information for us.  Well Bruce, thanks for your answer

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Iris

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Re: question for Bruce from Iris in Holland
Reply #1 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 8:06pm
 
Hello Diamond:

Obviously I'm not Bruce, but I'll respond.

I had a couple of dreams suggesting that when great flooding takes place on this earth in the not too distant future, unfriendly beings will invade.

Kay Wilson, an abductee, was shown an image where unfriendly aliens attack in the not too distant future, and friendly aliens help out. She was also shown huge star ships, but she couldn't figure out who they are going to pick up.

Mark Aubrey wrote in his book "Keep it simple" that he was shown that unfriendly aliens would attack in the not too distant future. He was also shone huge starships, but he doesn't know who they are going to pick up.

I asked my spirit guidance if unfriendly aliens are going to attack in the not too distant future, and an image of Jean Luc Picard from Star Trek the next generation looked at me with a concerned look on his face (I figure the symbologic meaning is somewhat obvious).

One time I asked if I would be picked up by a starship when trouble develops, I saw a ship in space, experienced my self travel to and through its back doorway (not physically) and I hit my my head on the upper part of the doorway as I did so. I'm not certain, but the hitting my head might've been a way of saying don't enter the ship.

For the dreams I spoke of above, I was amongst people who hid while the invasion took place, we survived, and for one of the dreams the point was made that people on this planet who represent love and light would succeed in helping make this world a better place.

Kay Wilson and Mark Aubrey were told that they would need to hide out as unfriendly beings hunt people.

I know there are people who say they channel friendly alien beings and they provides descriptions of what will happen when it comes to starships that will pick people up during future catastrophes, but they seem to contradict each other, say things that don't sound right, so I'd rather rely on what abductees, spirit messages I receive and my own common sense say.

Thus far, it seems as if I'm staying behind, and I don't know who visiting starships will represent and who they will pick up.

Actually, I have received some messages that seemed to make the point that people who can't handle the increase in vibrational rate this planet will experience will be moved to another planet. I'm not certain if I interpreted these messages correctly.

As opposed to relying on what channeled sources say, I believe it would be better for a person to make contact with spirit guidance he or she can trust. It can be a process figuring this out, and keen discrimination is required if one doesn't want to be misled by whoever.
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Reply #2 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 11:39pm
 
There are real now problems, and there are thought problems.

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Reply #3 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 12:31pm
 
A number of people have received messages that world changing events are going to happen. Since I've received them, it only makes sense that I think in terms of being prepared.

If many people die in the not too distant future, what kind of surviving people will determine this world's future? Will some people try to survive so they can be around to effect things in a positive way, rather than see mankind repeat the numerous mistakes it has made?

You don't have to think about now to exist in now, because now always exists.

spooky2 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 11:39pm:
There are real now problems, and there are thought problems.

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Reply #4 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 12:40pm
 
Nor am I Bruce but I believe that you shouldn't be to concerned about the Galactic Federation coming to earth and hunting people. Even if that was to happen, which I personally doubt it will anytime soon, there is little you could do about it beforehand. Lets face it, if they can travel between planets or wavelengths, what are we going to do to them? If your time is up then perhaps it is more important to make sure that your legacy is one of helping others and of love.
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Reply #5 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:00pm
 
I agree, if there is a scientifically/technologically more advanced set of beings with malevolent intent there is little we can do about it so stop worrying....
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 2:14pm
 
Perhaps there is something we can do.

When some people speak of reptilians they speak of them as if they aren't physical in the same way as us.  This being the case, it may be that love energy can have an effect on them. There are people who have found that when they send them love they go away.

Some say that if the vibrational rate of this earth increases, unfriendly beings won't be able to hang around.

Plus friendly beings might help us out if unfriendly beings attack.

Mark Aubrey had an OBE where he attended a meeting with several types of aliens, one alien suggested that they go after the unfriendly aliens, but they decided not to do so because if they did the unfriendly aliens would respond by attacking this world and friendly aliens in mass. Therefore, it is possible that some sort of wait game is going on amongst the friendly and unfriendly aliens. The friendly aliens don't want to do a pre-emptive strike.

When Kay Wilson was shown an image of unfriendly aliens attacking, human beings did have some success against them, plus friendly aliens helped out.

Both of their books are available for free on the internet. Here are the links. Kay speaks about the vision I speak of under the chapter called "Future Earth" beginning on page 215.

I'm not suggesting that Kay and Mark are always right, but they seem like honest people who shared what they experienced.

http://www.alienjigsaw.com/The_Books/I%20Forgot/Book%20Page.html

http://issuu.com/tayesin/docs/keep_it_simple
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Re: question for Bruce from Iris in Holland
Reply #7 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 4:40am
 
hawkeye wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Nor am I Bruce but I believe that you shouldn't be to concerned about the Galactic Federation coming to earth and hunting people. Even if that was to happen, which I personally doubt it will anytime soon, there is little you could do about it beforehand. Lets face it, if they can travel between planets or wavelengths, what are we going to do to them? If your time is up then perhaps it is more important to make sure that your legacy is one of helping others and of love.


I agree with Hawkeye 100% and cant seem to not post my thought on this topic too: "Why worry about unfriendly Aliens of the future, whilst not really paying attention to the unfriendly humans we have around us of today, right this min."?  Shocked

I mean >> these unfriendly aliens come to invade, whilst friendly aliens come to assist.. Hmmm  Huh If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldnt even come here to begin with, just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. Roll Eyes

I mean for crying out loud EVERY OUTER PLANETARY BEING has just got to think we are the most primativ Beings in the entire Universe,
  • WE let our neighbors die OF THIRST AND HUNGER, when we have tools which can prevent such.
  • WE allow adults to molest children and hide behind the strength of the royalty of religion. (has anyone heard of the latest news of the church and its molestation cases)

  • WE allow people to freeze in the wintertime, whilst C&A clothing store "shreads up Millions" of brandnew clothes instead of giving to the needy simply because they werent "sold".

  • WE glorify a football, soccer or golf player, movie stars and singers, race car driver pay em millions whilst a doctor or a trashman makes much much less, yet the secondary MAKE A DIFFERENCE in peoples life or death process.

I could go on and on...

If somebody comes down here to kick some butt, I affraid I`m gonna help em!  Undecided

Hugs and love to you,
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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 12:18pm
 
Nanner,

"Why worry about unfriendly Aliens of the future, whilst not really paying attention to the unfriendly humans we have around us of today, right this min.? Shocked"

You're labeling an examination as worry and that speaks of your response to this subject. There's no need to fear the future, aliens nor earth graduation, but there are ample opportunities to examine and observe the players on this scene - understanding something has the potential to reduce fear. If the theoretic calmness one would like to have if faced with different alleged events turns into practice, well done. Body fear 0, spirit awesomeness 1.

"If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldn't even come here to begin with"

Looking at the overall picture of earth it already seems to be close to ripeness in terms of adopting and subsequently living "the dream" - alien to earth mindsets, including the one you promote now, that progressing as a planet or race is the dog's bollocks.

"just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. Roll Eyes"

Species who are on a path of group conformity may have little or no understanding of a path where spirits are free to progress at their own pace. Being technologically advanced/dependent isn't equal to being spiritually advanced. Another part of the crap seen can be the view of experience sparks from higher selves on different advancement levels, which can be alien indeed for aliens.

"I mean for crying out loud EVERY OUTER PLANETARY BEING has just got to think we are the most primativ Beings in the entire Universe"

..their perspective perhaps, where our path would be very non-conformist; lots of incarnations on different levels spread across linear time. If they aren't ready for this path, ok. Move along and take care, which they won't as they're already here, bent on making earth experiencers fit "their image(s)".

"[...] WE glorify a football, soccer or golf player, movie stars and singers, race car driver pay em millions whilst a doctor or a trashman makes much much less, yet the secondary MAKE A DIFFERENCE in peoples life or death process. I could go on and on..."

Hellooooooooo guilt, my old friend... you've come to change me yet again. Why should higher selves limit their experiental patterns according to YOUR polarity blueprints? Part of the experience seems to be the mini-higher self sparks not being advanced enough to disobey body impulses. Advancement starts with the glorification the body, allopathic medicine pushers, football players, bunny like producers (easter soon, notice the symbols used for that festival?), and are stepping stones for progression.
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Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 7:17pm
 
Thank you all for your answers.
I was just wondering how come that you speak of unfriendly aliens? I myself did  only read about friendly aliens. The aliens who want to help earth, so they say, are loving creatures. Did any of you read the book your first contact of Sheldan Niddle? He seems to me a serious person but how come he already speaks of the landings for about 10 years and nobody ever noticed a spaceship filled with aliens from a galactic federation.

I no longer know who to believe and if i contact my higher self nobody speaks of galactic federation Cheesy

So i really am curious if any body, who did travel in the universe in the out of body state, heard anything about it.
People can write in books whatever they want, they can channel and say that they are channeling great masters of light, who knows if they speak the truth. I do believe people who have met other essences in the universe who speak about this galactic federation.

I wish you all a very nice day and thanks a lot.
Iris
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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 11:16pm
 
I've had only a few obes but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth.

One problem of the results of your question might be that those who are of the opinion that there are extraterrestrials undermining our human society might respond to a much larger degree than those who are experienced in Phasing and OBE travel who have just experienced nothing in this regard. And when you search the web you might find much things right about this, but this is because you search for exactly that.

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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 11:44pm
 
spooky2 wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 11:16pm:
I've had only a few obes but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth.

One problem of the results of your question might be that those who are of the opinion that there are extraterrestrials undermining our human society might respond to a much larger degree than those who are experienced in Phasing and OBE travel who have just experienced nothing in this regard. And when you search the web you might find much things right about this, but this is because you search for exactly that.

Spooky


Just to verify I'm reading that right, you're saying that those who have experiences with hostile beings were mostly those which dabbled in phasing and OBE travel?
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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 11:57pm
 
I'm saying that I think most of what is written about aliens is follow-ups of follow-ups of believers who never had a genuine alien-experience. I can't falsify that there are, but "proofs" only indicate that there is something we can't understand yet. And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that.

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Reply #13 - Mar 25th, 2010 at 12:09am
 
spooky2 wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 11:57pm:
I'm saying that I think most of what is written about aliens is follow-ups of follow-ups of believers who never had a genuine alien-experience. I can't falsify that there are, but "proofs" only indicate that there is something we can't understand yet. And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that.

Spooky


I don't see why people would be so concerned anyway. It's difficult for me to imagine a life form so evolved and yet so hostile it would wish harm upon a planet it doesn't even inhabit. My theory as it stands is that if other life forms exist within our realm and the universe, then destruction and harm is not their intent. I like to imagine that contact won't be like anything we've ever seen in a movie or read in a book.

But if hostile beings do happen to invade, I'll have my water gun handy.
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Reply #14 - Mar 25th, 2010 at 3:27am
 
"Why pick on Nanner, you emotionally wounded, phony intellectual British person!? How many different foreign languages can you read or write? Probably None! She can read and write English extremely well for a person from a non-english speaking country! What about you? Volu? When I was in London many years ago, they there have a name for some people! They called them Wanker! Sincerely. Carl."

If you're gonna reduce the response to be about picking on, try reading what you've written, and what was responded to again. - Do away with the different incarnational levels on earth, and the foundation for learning is no longer here. It's valuable knowledge, even if some incarnational lives seem basic & wasteful, because that's what more advanced incarnations benefit from. Earth life works differently than how many of the alien channelings want earth life to be - their way. Reincarnation, an alien mindset, doesn't apply to ones who are having plenty at the same time. American/british isn't my native language either, though I'm not sure why you would make a point of that in this context.
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