recoverer wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 7:10pm:


Hmmm  Recoverer, you just brought me onto something. Last year, I went on vacation at the east sea and the last day there I remember wanting to get up really really early before anyone else to go down to the ocean all by myself, which I did, in my robe. I dont remember anything else after that, except that when we came home the next day I found myself covered with a rasch from hell, itchy stripes ALL OVER MY BODY (I even have a picture of it).. as if I had walked thru bushes or something, the second to last thing I remember was standing alone on the beach, last thing I remember was then being at home and seeing the rasch. I ended up in bed for 2 weeks, had hard time breathing and the doc came, gave me a shot which caused my entire veins under my skin darken, but even the Specialist had no idea what it was. 

One good thing: I didnt have to worry about my underwear, as I didnt have any on under my robe. Should we all now become underwear-less just maybe to stay on the safe side?

Hugs,
Nanner

Hi everybody


Recoverer wrote
For the dreams I spoke of above, I was amongst people who hid while the invasion took place, we survived, and for one of the dreams the point was made that people on this planet who represent love and light would succeed in helping make this world a better place.

Actually, I have received some messages that seemed to make the point that people who can't handle the increase in vibrational rate this planet will experience will be moved to another planet. I'm not certain if I interpreted these messages correctly.
Iris answers:
You are not the only one who receives these messages. Lots of people receive them and i am don’t think that this is fantasy.  I myself have seen that Young people were washing older people and that all the fish was gone, the sea was almost empty, except for three huge goldfish.. The water was no longer blue and the sky was grey and that there always will be people who don’t want to change. The one who showed me that was my twin flame who took me on an out of body trip. I personally believe his message of course because i experienced it myself and there fore i also believe you.
Nanner wrote:
I mean >> these unfriendly aliens come to invade, whilst friendly aliens come to assist.. Hm mm   If we as humans would start acting out that we are all ONE, then the unfriendly aliens probably wouldn't even come here to begin with, just maybe they are not as unfriendly but rather tired of this crap they see... as they would be touched by the way WE treat each other and our planet if all would act as if we were one. 
Iris answers.  I think you are absolutely right with this Nanner. We have to start taking care of each other and the planet es well. We have to change ourselves, we as a human energies. Love you for saying  everything you wrote.

Volu wrote:
You're labeling an examination as worry and that speaks of your response to this subject. There's no need to fear the future, aliens nor earth graduation, but there are ample opportunities to examine and observe the players on this scene - understanding something has the potential to reduce fear.

Iris answers.  Also a very valuable opinion Volu. Thank you for reminding me.
Spooky wrote:

Iris answers:  I've had only a few ob es but did a lot of what is called "phasing". I came across some strange beings here and there but haven't heard of a "Galactic Federation". There is a bigger picture, let's say "states of consciousness" instead of "beings" which is in some ways similar to the image of a "Galactic Federation", but not in the sense of aliens overtaking the earth.
And most travelers I've read and talked to don't have any specific information about a physical alien force, "Galactic Federation", nor an organisation which really fits this names on another level than the physical. This is all highly interpretative stuff, anyway. And so we shouldn't invest too much concern in that.
Iris answers:
I never read anything about taking over earth, just helping people to remember who they are and that earth will be guarded by human angels. But as i wrote before, i don’t know if this is true and that is why i asked this question on this forum. I am open for experiences of people. Because i never had contact with galactic federation i don’t call people who claim they did a liar, who am i to  say people speak nonsense because i never had any contact.So i always keep my mind open.

Bruce wrote:
I don't have any information about millions of ships landing on earth or everybody leaving the planet.  I can't imagine why anyone would want to come here to evacuate the planet.  It is just a physical reality world and there are lots of them available as well as lots of nonphysical worlds to inhabit and explore.

Guess I come from the old school that believes that if we live with the consequences of our actions we are more likely to make better decisions about our actions in the future.

Iris answers:

Seth (Jane Roberts channeling Seth) speaks about countless planets earth. Seth speaks about this planet being an energetic illusion, created by us for having fun. So, why is not everybody having fun? Seth is not the only one who speaks of countless planets to incarnate on. If you choose so, you can incarnate in an  other focus in timeline 2000 AD or  the year 3698 if you want. If everything is an illusion, we just create this illusion to play a game. Giving our source self the experience in a physical body. You wrote about your experience of the creature and all the energy lines , you followed them  to a board where you could see all the lives, living simultaneously. All your selves. (Sorry Bruce, my English is not good  enough to express what i really mean) But you know what i am talking about.
SO actually, if i use my intelligence, why change this earth, why saving people if there are countless planet earth is countless dimensions to play your game on.
It makes no sense.
Stoned cold true wrote:
I don't believe this planet will ever be destroyed or evacuated. That whole concept pretty much defeats the entire purpose of God, evolution, time, and the whole reason this planet exists and we exist on it.
Iris answers. I never did read the planet will be destroyed. I read the opposite.  Never read anything about bad aliens, only friendly ones.
Hawkey said:
As I said, I don't believe that there is going to be a removal of "bodies" from the planet at any time soon up into a spacecraft, if ever

Iris answers. Never say never. BELIEVE  is not knowing for sure. If you believe you take something as a truth for yourself. But it stays believing and believing is always not being sure.

Nanner wrote: "Hmmm   Recoverer, you just brought me onto something. Last year, I went on vacation at the east sea and the last day there I remember wanting to get up really really early before anyone else to go down to the ocean all by myself, which I did, in my robe. I dont remember anything else after that, except that when we came home the next day I found myself covered with a rasch from hell, itchy stripes ALL OVER MY BODY (I even have a picture of it).. as if I had walked thru bushes or something, the second to last thing I remember was standing alone on the beach, last thing I remember was then being at home and seeing the rasch. I ended up in bed for 2 weeks, had hard time breathing and the doc came, gave me a shot which caused my entire veins under my skin darken, but even the Specialist had no idea what it was. 

One good thing: I didnt have to worry about my underwear, as I didnt have any on under my robe.  Should we all now become underwear-less just maybe to stay on the safe side?

Hugs,
Nanner "

Recoverer responds: "Moments of missing time is a common component of alien abduction.

Interesting

So many people, so many opinions.
But i received answers on my question.
Nobody knows anything about a galactic federation of light.
Me neither.

Can we conclude then  that this galactic federation of light does not exist?


We can't. We just have not been confronted with it.

Neither you as I did.

So  i have to search further.

Everybody has their own believe systems.

The problem in finding out about the non physical realities is that we, as energy living in a human body, interpret everything we experience, in a human way.
We translate and associate in earth terms everything we experience in the non physical.

When we travel outside out bodies experiences are explained to us on a physical level otherwise we don't understand them.

I experienced myself for a few times as a blue fluid mass  and also as a color, without form, it was all so strange that it scared the hell out of me.
I even travelled inside earth, just like Bruce did, but i did not see the  crystal. I saw a world their with beings who did not look human. I saw a little one eyed dwarf who was staring at me.

I did experience a few aliens, i am very sensitive for energy. I can feel the energy physical with my outer senses. I can hear and see in other dimensions while my earth consciousness is completely awake.  As if i am operating at the same time in two different worlds.

But i never experiences any information concerning a galactic federation with millions of space-ships, trying to save earth.

I wish it is true because i am really sick of this awful world,  like the way Nanny described.  I also think i do love animals more than people.

I thank you all for your co-operation. I hope i speak to a human person some day who actually did see this galactic federation.

The reason i asked you guys is that this is the Bruce Moen forum. I really enjoyed reading his books and the way the universe explained itself to him.  My explanations of course are different but that makes it so special.
I thought, maybe the people on this forum travel a lot with their energy body and maybe somebody found out something.

I don't want to force my own truth to anybody at all. i completely live in the now and everyday my truth is changing . i liked reading all your opinions and learned from them.

I wish you all a nice week-end.
Iris

Nanner,
"U are simply too intelligent for this Nanner. (thats what you wanted to read isnt it) >>>   "

Thought of it as a clear and concise reply. When it doesn't come across, then so it is. (That's your presumption.)

"I was serious when I wrote I dont know what a Wanker is. (NO JOKE) Never had heard it before.. LOL."

Here's a blazing wank from instrument tossers; knew how to convey emotion with their hands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnyvmYnG5s.

"If you dont like the way I write, speak, look or act, you are going to have a serious problem with the aliens  as I am sure they are different from yourself as well. Tolerance my love. And if you cant appreciate a good smily or a highlight, then pls simply skip my comments. That way your bloodpressure wont skip a beat on my account. "

My participation in this forum is beyond looks, so IF anything, that's a projective attribute. As for actions, there's also the unmentioned possibility of liking some of something. The heart beats just fine, no worries.

"You cant even get along with a Nanner, how are you planning to get along with an Alien... whom just might not speak to you in terms of political correctness?  "

Moving along from pondering why the banana is crooked, planning isn't limited to not getting along or getting along with somebody. Getting along is easy, and fun, when there's compatibility. Getting along is easy, and politically correct, when getting along for the sake of getting along. Getting along, being different, being able to express that, I find more interesting to deal with on this board. At least for my part: refining is the name of the game, and there's growth potential.

"My highest thought at the moment is that you and I need to drink a cup of coffee together, so I can smack ya up side the head with one of my couch pillows and make you laugh at how funny I can actually be."

Your highest thought at that moment disregarded my input in the scenario, so I'll pass.