When it comes to whether or not unfriendly aliens exist and whether they are involved with this earth, it might be worthwhile to read what Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, James Bartley, Bud Hopkins and David Jacobs have to say.

It seems as if John Mack is an investigator who found positive results, yet he wrote a book where a South American shaman and a South African shaman told him about experiences they and their people have had with aliens, and they both speak of reptilians and grays as if they are negative.

If you have the time, check out David Jacobs 15 part radio interview on youtube. He started out as a UFO investigator. He thought the abduction people were looneys. Then he had an in depth conversation with Bud Hopkins and found that the had good evidence for the abduction phenomena.

Jacobs has researched abductions for about 30 years. Some interesting points he has found:

-As time went along, he found that human hybrids would do the abducting instead of the grays.
-At some point, abductees started to report that human looking hybrids are interacting with the human race. Some of the abductees were required to show the hybrids how to integrate into society.
-They tried to film the abductors, but the abductees would alway do someting to make this impossible, such as wake up in the middle of the night and turn off the camera, and then have no memory of doing so.

The researchers I mentioned believe that the aliens that do the abductions are negative because they do things such as rape the abductees (sometimes a multitude of times) and threaten them. Some have been shown clones of themselves and told that if they don't do as told they will be replaced by their clones.

Regarding the situations where abductees are forced to have sex with aliens, hybrids and people they don't know, even if there was a positive reason for a breeding program, what about artificial insemination? One would think that an advanced society would know how to do so.

The human race is supposedly intelligent, yet it uses technology in negative ways. This being the case, why couldn't unfriendly aliens do the same?

I believe it is a mistake to jump to conclusions about what aliens will or won't do, without investigating.

It is significant to point out that investigators who speak about the negative side of aliens tend to receive more threats and harassment than people who present a positive spin. Some of them have been killed in curious ways.

Nanner,

"Thank you Carl, dearest.   U R the greatest for loving me the way I am, I speak 4 languages. I dont know what a "Wanker" is, but I have heard of the word "Peckerhead".

Interesting group dynamic. You can pretend not knowing what it means, but it's poorly masked. Is this an example of "What would love do now", always correct manner, the highest thought which leads you?

"I commented on Spooky`s words. And my punt had been quite obvious, even for your part of the world."

The guesswork of whose words you might be commenting isn't quite obvious, possibly for any part of the world, but your post quoted hawkeye.

"fact of the matter is, we have friendlys and unfriendlys right here, right now on our plane of conscience exsistence where WE can decide how to raise our children, treat our neighbors, family and friends and other members of the worlds community" right?"

There are polarities, with a middle area. Different energies at play, some not dressed as captain obvious. Decisions can be made, where rosy talking isn't a given for rosy walking.

"- and yet for the most part we keep our trap shut even when we see unjustice being done right here, right now."

You can change your own steps, right now. Pointing out dynamics can turn out to be a spark in the light bulb, but what to do with it is a choice.

"In the thread, we are speaking of foreign life beings coming on earth and then friendly beings joining them ultimately to save our tiny hiny`s in some form or fashion."

You may appoint yourself as a spokesperson for the thread, use we to make your point seem more appropriate, but it still is an individual process, whether no or varying degrees of grouping. Physical hineys can't be saved.

"I presume your intellect reaches as far as to see that I was bringing forth"

If you measure others' intellect by how well they get you, then you presume too much. Communicating with words in the form of written language, and delayed instead of instantaneous feedback; it doesn't carry emotions the same way as other forms of communication. Which can easier lead to misunderstandings.

"what in a progressive ripe mind would cause a government, Prime Minister or even President to make decisions against the collective state of his people, thus being the direct cause of havoc for those people? >> Greed, butt kissing and Ego, wanting to be right?"

Though an example of a dark way of leading a country can be easier to spot than a country whose actions are spun with cotton candy, the mentioned attributes aren't foreigners in light circles. Servitude to "divine" or "evil" in either case result in further servitude.

"I hope the aliens ask me one simple question: "Want to be right or happy?" >>  Guess you know my answer >>"

I don't know, but can guess you aren't void of wanting to be right seeing the excessive use of bold, caps lock, colour and italics. That guess doesn't leave out happy though. Simple can be fantastic, but guessing again, aliens asking the questions, and simple answers might be encouraged, welcomed and enforced.

Bruce-

Well, that's a sigh of relief, knowing that millions of alien ships won't be coming to our planet to take us away! 

But just in case we might have to evacuate on short notice, I'll be sure to always wear clean underwear. 

R

Rondelle:

It's great to hear that you plan to wear clean underwear, because going by this thread, it hasn't been concluded whether or not starships are going to pick some people up.

If people are picked up I hope that the aliens know that people need to do things such as brush teeth, take showers and do laundry, or the smell within the ship might get a little funky.

Speaking of smells, some abductees say that Grays smell bad. They also say that their abductions lead to rashes and other physical ailments.


rondele wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 6:19pm:

hawkeye wrote on Mar 25^th, 2010 at 1:05pm:


Hawkeye..lol..
I dont think I have any of the languages mastered, to tell ya the truth. I am just me. I certainly wish I could speak them all, maybe that way I could help avoid mis-understandings.
Hugs,
Nanner

As I said, I dont believe that there is going to be a removal of "bodies" from the planet at any time soon up into a spacecraft, if ever. That said, perhaps contemplation should be directed towards the possibility that we, our essence or soul, or being, could be removed. Given the possibility of a thinning out of the populous, in large numbers, assistance could be coming to move us to a area that can accommodate the energy. Like to F27. (or?) This would allow some of us who are experienced in retrieval work the possibility of showing those not ready to except that they are more than their phyical bodies, that they are in fact more. Getting them unstuck and prepaired to exist within a differant wavelength. Sort of the direction that many of us here are already getting ready for.(Its not just me is it?)Perhaps the thought that it is aliens is what is confusing to some. Perhaps its really some of us, our beingness, disk members, or even ourselves, helping out. When we look upon something differant that what we dont understand or have expearence in, we call that alien.

re. reply #15: "Carl dearest," Nanner is NOT a "wonker."   Actually, the correct word is "wonk."  However, I guess we can reinvent English a bit.  "Bonk" is the sound made by hitting one's head, say, on an unnoticed piple near the ceiling or other hard object.  So people speak of someone gong "bonkers," that is, being a danger even to themselves as they flail away uncontrollably.    

"wonk" = (1) "one who studies a topic or an issue thoroughly or excessively."  (2) "an insignificant student who is ridiculed as being affected or boringly studious."  Our American cable news channels often speak of Washington's policy wonks.  Anyway, this does not apply to Nanner.  I like reading her posts. 

Don