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Reply #15 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 5:02pm
 
I'm curious to know how right she was.
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Reply #16 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:27pm
 
Chantilly,

Don't pay attention to the waiting period that some talk about; talk to your son now.  Tell him what you know, that you love him, that he should follow love and not be afraid.  Even if you feel at times that you are talking to yourself, do it anyway.

In Asia, the Tibetan Book of the Dead (Bardo Thodol) is read immediately following a person's passing.  It is taken as a given that the person can hear/see.  The writers of this book felt that after death we are given a series of visions which are illusions.  The idea is not to get tied up in attachments to lust, greed, selfishness, but and to realize some of what you experience may be illusions that we have to pass through.  In that text, there are countless ways out of the Bardo world, by recognizing the illusions and following a path of love.  If the person does not recognize things, the Asians believe that a rebirth is the final outcome back onto the earth plane. 

I have read the Bardo and while I'm sure there is wisdom in it, my main "take home" message is that the newly deceased can hear and see you. I am not sure that the realms of illusion described are not just archetypes in the human mind, and the talk in the text of the devas, gods and demons we encounter does not hit home for me (it is likely due to a cultural divide). 

It is especially important that the living let our deceased loved ones know they are loved, forgiven and can and should move on - that you'll meet again.  Grieving is normal, but try to stay focused and send thought of love on to him.  Tell him to pursue love and release anger hate and fear.  Tell him to ask for help if he needs it. 

I don't think its to early to do any of these things.

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Matthew
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Reply #17 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 7:36pm
 
Mathew, I already do those things...constantly, and I have my other son do it also.  I can already communicate with other who have crossed over since the death of my fiance two years ago.   I know the importance of letting him know what to do, in case he might be confused since he had little belief in the afterlife...all though he was starting to explore the ideas of parallel universes and such.   And of course I always spoke to him of my communications...even though he probably thought that I might be a little nuts... But every sense I had read that sometimes souls get confused after death...since they had no idea that life continued on...I had made it a point to speak to him of it, just in case...However, I never thought or hoped that it would happen as I thought it might.

So thank you so much, your advice is good and  relevant.
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Reply #18 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:17pm
 
ChantillyC, I feel for you and your loss. I agree with StoneCold that you should not hold back contact with your son. Not to worry, he is just fine. As you have already experienced communication with your past over fiance, you know it will be the same with you son if it is meant to be. Please dont take this wrong, but I am happy for him. Hes gone home. He understands love.
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Reply #19 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 2:52pm
 
Thank you Hawkeye,  Yes he is in the place where he started from....I am sure for many life times.     I just hope he is not in a state of confusion.   That will tear a mothers heart apart.

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Reply #20 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 5:35pm
 
if he was confused, I am sure it wouldnt have been for long. Your conversations with him, and lots of help on that side, will have made a big difference. As I said, hes just fine and there is no need to worry about him. He knows now that you weren't "nuts".
Life has a way of throwing us curves. Pick up that ball and throw it right back. You will be good too. Its OK for you to be sad for your loss, but remember to be happy for him.
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Reply #21 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 6:38pm
 
That was beautiful...thank you!
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Reply #22 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 5:00am
 
Dearest Chantilly (Carla),
my whole hearted love goes out to you and all of family and friends.

I personally believe that "feeling the loss of a loved one" is the hardest hill to clime and the loss seems even after my own personal experience (12 years ago), never to "lighten up". One is forced to come to terms with it, it doesnt feel like a free will "choice". I had come to realise that my grieving derived from "selfishness". I was grieving becaus "I lost something precious within my time". I wasnt thinking of the possibility that the soul of my loved one "DECIDED" many moons ago that "this was the way it wanted to depart from its mission of experiencing here on earth".
The entire experience was a wake up call for me.

I would like to convey to you to remember "what we are". We are not that which you see in the mirror, we are much much more. We are "souls having a human experience" NOT the other way around. Taking a moment to digest those words, will maybe give you somewhat comfort.

Thank you for sharing and sending lots of love and hugs,
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Reply #23 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 6:16pm
 
Thank you Nanner....!
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Reply #24 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 7:57pm
 
Chantilly,

Though this may be difficult to imagine, I think there may be a point in time where people celebrate death as opposed to the opposite. Do not think of him as gone or out of your life. From what I am discovering, death is very much like the cycle of the butterfly. There are symbolisms and metaphors in every facet of nature and knowledge to help us.

On earth we are caterpillars and the death of our bodies is like the caterpillar's cocoon which is left behind to nature before springing the true beauty of our existence, the butterfly.

I get the feeling that where ever your son is, he is smiling and he is experiencing more peace than he ever thought imaginable in this world. It may even come as a surprise to him that that feeling is but a fraction of what he has left to experience. Think, believe, and know this and you may find you too will smile.  Smiley
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Reply #25 - Mar 26th, 2010 at 9:12pm
 
Stonecold, thank you for your words...  I do understand that if he has crossed over..he is a very happy happy soul.   I know this.  It is the mother in me, who worries because he did not believe in the after life, and sometimes that causes some confusion.  I know he is home with his spirit family, it is his earth family that misses the physical Tony that we have had for 29 years.  I grieve for his daughter who misses her father.  I grieve for his brother who lost his best friend.   I grieve for his nephew who considered him a second father because he has helped raise his these last 4 years.   I know to be happy for him,  I know that he knows what we are doing and feeling.  I know he loves us and wishes that we would grieve less and less.   I know that the day I make it back to our spirit home I will see my son and frankly,  I am looking forward to it!   

Again, thank you for taking the time to say such kind words to me.   Chantilly
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