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Reply #15 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 1:25pm
 
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Hey, Brian, it's your heaven. Do as you like there. Why should you have to ask someone else? It's heaven! If you want something very special there, why would it be denied you? No one should tell you how it should be for you in your very own heavenly experience. I don't see any problem with what you want and I'm sure you can have it. Just get yourself there and find out.


And how do I know such a place as this even exist and how do I deserve it?
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Reply #16 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 2:33pm
 
You deserve your heaven by virtue of being born, by virtue of existing here as a human being. By no other reason. IMO.
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Reply #17 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:33pm
 
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You deserve your heaven by virtue of being born, by virtue of existing here as a human being. By no other reason. IMO.


OK but how do I know that heaven is even real in the first place?
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Reply #18 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:37pm
 
How do you know anything is real?
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Reply #19 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:40pm
 
Hi

One way is to learn to visit the 'afterlife' by reading books by Bruce Moen and others. What you experience there will proove the reality of the non-physical   Smiley

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Reply #20 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 10:10am
 
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How do you know anything is real?


Good point...is it real because you can feel it, see it, hear it?  Is it real because you sense it, know it, understand it? 

And Brian, its not incest to have sex with someone who was a relative in a previous life...this is a new play, a new production and the scenes won't even be the same...much less the cast of characters!
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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 10:58am
 
Yes, just because you played brother and sister here it will have no bearing on your feelings as you merge with the higher self (The Cast is completely related) You may certainly find in fact that those you were intimate with while here have played your siblings and parents many times before. It is a much larger reality of possibilities. That's how I see it. It is a play, but one with goals for the character as well as the higher actor self. It is my opinion of course and what makes sense to me.

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Reply #22 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 12:11pm
 
Another thing I'm curious about is if people have sex in heaven, does that mean their spiritual bodies have sex hormones? Maybe a different kind, like instead of having them for procreation, we have them for pleasure?
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Reply #23 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 12:22pm
 
I think a lot depends on what you are calling "sex". Intimacy, love, companionship will all be there. As you are not existing within a phyical body once you go to a heaven, belly's slapping together, slip sliding, phyical intercourse is unlikely. Sex isnt everything. Bruce talks about an area in his explorations where he came upon a pile of bodies desperately seeking phyical sex. The trouble is when your so attached to the phyical act that it becomes a guiding force within your existence. That's not saying sex isn't a great thing. Personally, I rather enjoy it. But sex with love is far better than just sex. True love is far better than sex.
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Reply #24 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm
 
My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake? 

To each his own...
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Reply #25 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 4:27pm
 
hawkeye wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 12:22pm:
I think a lot depends on what you are calling "sex". Intimacy, love, companionship will all be there. As you are not existing within a phyical body once you go to a heaven, belly's slapping together, slip sliding, phyical intercourse is unlikely. Sex isnt everything. Bruce talks about an area in his explorations where he came upon a pile of bodies desperately seeking phyical sex. The trouble is when your so attached to the phyical act that it becomes a guiding force within your existence. That's not saying sex isn't a great thing. Personally, I rather enjoy it. But sex with love is far better than just sex. True love is far better than sex.


I don't agree with you because sex is one of the best ways to express love, and what kind of heaven would it be if people can't make love? Sex with love is what I'm talking about and I hope to god they have that in heaven.

Why would a loving god take away the best thing there is in a place that is supposed to be heaven? And that is being able to make love with the one you love like sex.
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usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm:
My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake? 

To each his own...


Why not have both the merge AND the physical act at the SAME time? That sounds even better to me. Do you think people will be able to do this?

Earth sex is a merge of the physical body basically, heaven sex in a merge of the spiritual body.

So the question still stands, do people in heaven still have sex hormones of a type?
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Reply #27 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 6:48pm
 
Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever.

usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm:
My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake? 

To each his own...

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Reply #28 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 7:40pm
 
Thats what I have been saying.

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Why would it have to be either/or, one or the other, what is so limiting about the very idea of it? What is physically joyous to us here on earth we can take with us. What I think is important is to leave behind the negativity and culturally instilled guilt for what is, essentially, a beautiful thing. I think we can take anything with us that is meaningful, and why couldn't our experience of heaven be a gradual process which includes all kinds of differing experiences, as well as grand and engulfing magnificent loving 'allness'? I really don't see why our imaginations must be limited in any way whatsoever.

usetawuz wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:07pm:
My understanding is that in heaven we are essentially energy in motion.  With a thought we can manifest anything we can imagine.  We can become a man, we can become a woman...we may be able to become both and effectively copulate with ourselves, but I cannot imagine being in heaven, with the capacity to indulge in an all-encompassing, fully-involving sensation of love, compassion, acceptance in merging with another soul, and choosing instead to attempt to stimulate a limited portion of our manifested anatomy to relive a moment of ecstacy for what?  Old time's sake? 

To each his own...


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Reply #29 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 7:45pm
 
Some people say spirits can do physical things such as drink alcohol, take drugs and have sex.

If this is so, then why do some sources say that people who are addicted to the above attach themselves to humans in the flesh so they can continue to enjoy their cravings?

I figure life without a physical body is going to be somewhat different than life with a body. The higher you ascend, the more you won't have anything to do with body based activities such "Ah Choo!"
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