Stand away from your computer and you will see it,my cleaning lady could see it.its all on the left side of the message.George

As a psychiatrist, Dr. Ian Stevenson has studied the research showing that hypnotic regression is not a reliable tool for regressions to early childhood, let alone past life recall (see my first post).  But he is also aware of the fascinating sources of false memory of past lives.  For example, he points to a  case in which a woman vividly remembers a past life in detail.  In fact, her past life recall drew the name and details from a novel in her house whose pages she had flipped through, but which she denied reading.   What started the New Age past life craze" was a book entitled "The Search for Bridey Murphy (1956)."  The subject, Virginia Tighe, both scored hists and made errors.  But cryptonesia is again involved because it was later discovered that a woman named BHridely Murphey Corkell had lived across the street where Virginia had grown up. 

Neither do Stevenson's own cases of the past life recall of young children fare any better.  In 2 of his cases, it can be shown that the prior personality was still allive AFTER the birth of the child who alleges past life recall.  Nor will it do to invoke the dubious notion of parallel incarnations to escape the force of this criticism.  This alternative misses the point that the deceased personality had just died recently and this suggests that 2 newly dead people wanted to almost immediately re-enter earth life and so they did so through possession and not through reincarnation.  Remember, it is widely recognized that the memories of possessing entities seem to the possessed to be their own memories!  This insight vindicates Swedenborg's astral discovery that astral past life recall is rather a case of spirit merger in which the explorer is unaware of the invasive discarnate spirit's presence and that spirit's memories are mistakan for past life memories. 

Don
 

spooky2 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2010 at 11:02pm:


That's pretty interesting. This kind of strikes a chord with me. Back in 2007, I was sleeping and had my very first lucid dream. In the dream I was in a large city and visited a sports bar. I can remember pretty vividly the way it looked. The first floor included a dancing area, tables to eat at, and a large bar. The top floor was more of a lounge area with rooms which included traditional games, arcade games, and a TV room. You could also order food from up there. I'll skip the other details of the dream.

But towards the end everyone started running and screaming. I was on the top floor which could actually lead outside to a balcony. We all looked up and saw jets flying over our heads and lots of explosions going on. The last thing I remember was looking at a single object flying directly up and exploding bringing chaos down upon all of us. I woke up at that point so out of breath I fell into my wall when I got up. It was intense.

Later that day I went to see Transformers and it featured a trailer for Cloverfield, which had a scene in the trailer that looked so much like the end of my dream that it sent chills through me.

Just wanted to share. 

People have dogmatic viewpoints partly because they listen to what other people have to say without having any experience that collaborate such viewpoints. It is easier to get people to follow such dogma if in some way you fear them into doing so.

On the other hand, some people believe in the Disk viewpoint because they "had" experiences that collaborated such a viewpoint.

Regarding such experiences being nothing more than imagination that is triggured by what somebody like Bruce has to say about the matter, it is possible to have the viewpoint validated in a way where it seems clear that this isn't the case.

There is also the matter of Bruce having a Disk vision before reading of such a thing. Ron Kruger had an NDE where he experienced his greater self in such a way, even though he didn't read or hear about such a thing beforehand. P.M.H. Atwater and Tom Sawyer experienced their greater self in such a way during their NDEs.

I know of another man, I can't remember his name at this time, shortly after World War two he also had a vision where he found out  about things such as Oversouls without having first read or heard of such a thing.

Berserk2 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 2:14am:

recoverer wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 2:45pm: