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Psychedelic experience of Heaven
Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:20pm
 
Hi, this is my first post.  I am not a religious person but am interested in spirituality and exploring the different levels of reality available to us in this life as humans.

Just wanted some opinions on an experience I had some years back.  I took a large dose of magic mushrooms and salvia extract, and rapidly left this 'reality' and entered briefly another one.  I would have to say the most intense thing that then happend was a sudden sense that the edges of 'me' reaching and holding the outermost edges of the universe.  A similar experience happened another time when i looked up at the stars one night and suddenly felt eternity - an extremely deep experience, almost frightening.  to me, these were moments of heaven.  has anyone else experienced anything like this?  I seem to associate endless infinity with the deepest sense of love and peace in life.  I have never had any experiences relating to Jesus or prayer etc.  I'm fairly open minded but see christianity to be a very crude religion. Sorry if that offends.

Peace.

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Reply #1 - Feb 26th, 2010 at 3:53pm
 
That sounds like an amazing experience...

The closest I have come occurred in a moment of calm during a hectic day.  I had taken a deep breath and closed my eyes for just a moment.  When I opened them it was like I saw through a "crack in the curtain" and got the impression of immense space...and I immediately felt off-balance and almost nauseous.  The curtain immediately slipped back into place and I was looking at the wall and bookshelf in front of me.  It was literally a fraction of a second, but my mind perceived eons and infinity.
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Reply #2 - Feb 26th, 2010 at 5:46pm
 
Hi Trony,

The experience you had is attainable without drugs , I suppose that what happened with your second experience. Look up 'satori' as this may give you some sort of explanation but as you know it is impossible to put it in words.
You don't have to see any religious figure to experience love and peace. Some people may because in their own mind that is what they symbolize, through belief,  as love and peace.
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Reply #3 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:13am
 
Feelings like you described are commonplace during my projections into higher dimensions.  I have also had similar experiences on psychedelic drugs as well.
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Reply #4 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 12:56pm
 
I Am Dude wrote on Feb 27th, 2010 at 12:13am:
Feelings like you described are commonplace during my projections into higher dimensions.  I have also had similar experiences on psychedelic drugs as well.


Dude,

Do you use the Monroe methods?  I find that while I enjoy reading about interdimensional projection, I have an immediate fear response when I have been close.  I am not sure why.  In fact, the event I mentioned above included some form of structure or beams through which I saw a space that went on forever and some form of beings also saw me see and pulled the curtain closed. I was expecting only a bookcase and wall...after I recovered, I got up and did the standard movie-style touching of the wall and bookcase to make sure it wouldn't turn into a curtain and let me fall into that eternity on the other side...it didn't.
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Reply #5 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 2:06pm
 
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When I first learned to project I used the suneye/early morning method(sleep/wake/sleep) and I was able to succeed in only three attempts.  This is the method I use today, as it is more effective than any other in my experience.  I have the gateway series and a couple other TMI hemisync tracks that I believe are only offered at the TMI in person, but these generally do not produce OBEs, but rather assist in taking my meditations to deeper levels.. although when I was using hemisync twice a day I was having the greatest amount of OBEs.
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Reply #6 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 4:13pm
 
Dude,

Since you're talking about technique. How does one pull off the sleep/wake/sleep with a partner beside them?This is what plagues me about that technique. My girlfriend would have a COW if I had an alarm go off two to four hours into a nights sleep. I've contemplated this for over a year.

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Reply #7 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 7:08pm
 
Beau

You should wake up 5 to 6 hours after falling asleep, not 2 to 4.  I am married and my wife has no problem with it.  You gotta lay down the law man!  Tell her, "Yo!  I'm leavin my body, woman!  You don't like my alarm, sleep on the couch!"
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Reply #8 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 7:13pm
 
Excellent, Dude, thank you.
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Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 8:54pm
 
I Am Dude wrote on Feb 28th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Beau

You should wake up 5 to 6 hours after falling asleep, not 2 to 4.  I am married and my wife has no problem with it.  You gotta lay down the law man!  Tell her, "Yo!  I'm leavin my body, woman!  You don't like my alarm, sleep on the couch!"


I am listening to the Smiths on itunes and my wife just mentioned my penchant for disrupting her early in the morning was getting old (I'm thinking, is the music is old, is  the idea is old, is the waking early old...).  I think I need to start setting the alarm earlier...(How Soon Is Now is now blasting ....)We'll have to see where all of this comes out...it is looking rough right now (I have no marital spiritual companionship or understanding of what got the two of us where we are now and no common sense of direction.) 
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Reply #10 - Feb 28th, 2010 at 10:26pm
 
I had similar experiences. The strongest was when I lay in my bed and phased a bit before sleep. But I didn't fall asleep, but moved to a certain place, and then I expanded on and on and on. Though I somehow still had a center, I was so vast that nothing could bother me anymore, as there seemed to be nothing outside of me, and inside of me was something, but it was quiet. The aftereffects were still noticeable at the next day. On other occasions this being-expanded experience was more brief, as at some point the normal "I" stepped in because of the fear that I would get lost.

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