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Reply #15 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 7:28pm
 
Lights of Love wrote on Feb 23rd, 2010 at 9:14am:
Vicky, are you sure that you were wrong?  Most everyone is very good at putting on their ego mask, the front they present to the world.  Perhaps you are correct in regards to their actual emotional reaction, but when the event happened they did not allow their true emotion to become known by others.

Kathy


Hey Kathy!

What I mean by their emotional reaction being "wrong" is that their emotional reaction made them assume something that turned out to not be true.  Here are 2 quick examples:

1.  While on a band cruise I got a vision of the band's tech crew setting up the equipment improperly and I was telling them they were going to blow a circuit.  About 12 hours later during a show, the power went out and the lead singer passed around a sign he made "Blew a circuit! Working on it!"  It was his impression that they had blown a circuit.  So far this matched my vision exactly, I thought.  But later on we all found out that the power outage was not due to a blown circuit...it was because the ship's crew pulled the power on the show to get them to shut down for the night (it was 4 am).  So the information in my vision was correct, but it was based on the lead singer's interpretation, or shall we say mis-interpretation, as to why the power went out. 

2.  I recently got a vision of my entire basement flooding so completely and quickly that in my mind's eye I could see the water rising up the staircase at an impossible rate.  I realized this was not possible, so didn't worry about it.  About 8 hours later, my son called me to the basement...the toilet was overflowing.  I ran down there, and the water from the tank was filling the bowl without knowing when to stop, thus overfilling to the point of an enormous amount of water running over and flooding the bathroom.  I was finally able to get it to stop, and only the bathroom flooded, not the entire basement as my vision had shown me.  After getting the water cleaned up, I asked my son why he just stood there in shock and didn't help.  (He was the proverbial deer in headlights).  He said that he was so shocked about the way the toilet water didn't act normal (normally you can plunge to get it to stop before it overfills the bowl) and it made him scared to think that his whole bedroom was going to be flooded.  (The whole basement is his bedroom...all his stuff is down there).  So my irrational vision of the whole basement flooding was based on his fear and emotions.   He knew it was not possible, but his fear gave him the irrational worry. 

In the case of the toilet, why didn't I just get a psychic thought about the toilet overflowing?  Apparently my psychic connection was not to the toilet, but to my son's emotional reaction.

As for the power going out during the concert, it's the same thing.  I didn't get the info about the ship crew pulling the plug...I got the information of what the lead singer assumed went wrong....so my connection was to him, not to the power outage itself. 

Now I'm asking myself what causes these kinds of psychic connections.  It's very interesting to think about.

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Reply #16 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 7:40pm
 
usetawuz wrote on Feb 23rd, 2010 at 2:50pm:
A neurologist friend said to ask a psychic!  My reader said this woman and I have been spouses in many previous lives and the connection is very evident, but we were not meant for a longterm relationship this lifetime.  Also that there is no soul with whom I have a closer relationship.  Kind of makes it hard knowing that and understanding we are not going to be able to interact further in this lifetime.

Since the occasions with her, I have had no premonitory impressions...that I can remember.   


Hi Usetawuz,

This is so touching and sad at the same time.  Sort of a comfort mixed with lots of grief too. 

That connection was quite remarkable!
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Reply #17 - Feb 23rd, 2010 at 10:16pm
 
I once dreamt of a helicopter in water. Later at the same day I heard in the radio that a helicopter had just gone down into the bay of my hometown.

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Reply #18 - Feb 24th, 2010 at 9:30am
 
Vicky wrote on Feb 23rd, 2010 at 7:40pm:
usetawuz wrote on Feb 23rd, 2010 at 2:50pm:
A neurologist friend said to ask a psychic!  My reader said this woman and I have been spouses in many previous lives and the connection is very evident, but we were not meant for a longterm relationship this lifetime.  Also that there is no soul with whom I have a closer relationship.  Kind of makes it hard knowing that and understanding we are not going to be able to interact further in this lifetime.

Since the occasions with her, I have had no premonitory impressions...that I can remember.   


Hi Usetawuz,

This is so touching and sad at the same time.  Sort of a comfort mixed with lots of grief too. 

That connection was quite remarkable! 


It was amazing, and all the more difficult when it ended.  Apparently, our relationship was "a blessing"...a planting of a seed that would somehow get our attention focused in a certain direction in the future.  The "visitation" of her worked to put me on this path, but we did not plan to reunite.  I am assured of contracts we have in the future in which we will be the equivalent of spouses, which provides some solace...and for which I had a lucid dream further assuring me of our future together.
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Reply #19 - Feb 24th, 2010 at 11:54am
 
Hi Vicky,

Ok, now I understand what you're saying.  I think one way to explain this is as you mention, it is the connection between the consciousness of people that we "tap" into, rather than an inanimate object that doesn't possess consciousness.  Consciousness evolves by interacting with itself and each of us being an aspect of that consciousness is connected to a larger web of consciousness similar to how we are all connected to the Internet.  Each of us has our own web page (personal consciousness) and each of us can visit someone else's web page by tapping into their stream of consciousness.  Emotion/feeling does seem to play a part in the non-physical communication.  For one, we have a closer emotional connection with the people we know or are close to us, therefore it is easier to "pick up" on their stream of consciousness, but also "feeling" seems to be a way in which nonverbal communication can take place within our nonphysical awareness. 

Like your experiences, it was the same tapping into emotion with the incident I described.  I actually felt the person in the maroon truck putting on his brakes, trying to stop.  I felt the fear he felt as he slid into the intersection knowing he was going to crash into me. For a moment I felt everything he felt as though I were merged into his stream of consciousness to the point of experiencing/knowing what he was feeling.  I on the other hand felt no physical emotion whatsoever for my own safety.  When the mini movie that played in my mind came back to my own awareness of myself I simply said... oh he's going to hit me and saw the crunch of metal in slow motion as it occurred.

Since the accident never occurred, I have no way of knowing if it occurred exactly as I viewed it in my mind or even if it would have occurred at all. It is only probabilities that we are tapping into and the thought/interaction with others and our interpretation of that interaction that all plays a part in any communication such as what we call a premonition.  There's probably even more to it than what I've thought of.  There's always more to learn and you're right, it is fun and fascinating to think about and discuss these things.

Kathy
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Reply #20 - Feb 24th, 2010 at 2:06pm
 
Perhaps the most important teaching from the early church (e. g. James, the Book of Acts) and Judaism (e. g. Hillel; Philo) of that era is the access of every decent person to the gift of prophecy.  Among other things, this gift would imply access to premonitions.  But the "prophetic" character of these premonitions would mean 2 things.  (1) The future is not fixed and the premonition is given to elicit protective prayer or physical intervention to remedy the victim's plight.  If the premonition detects a fatal, then such prayer would help make the transition to the next life smoother and more meaningful. 
(2) The premonition is revealed to prevent one's divine destiny or purpose from being prematurely aborted or thwarted. 

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