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Feb 17th, 2010 at 4:36pm
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 6:16pm
 
This may be true, but it is just one side of the story.  The reptilians are just one species of ETs among countless others.  Researchers have found that there are many other species who are involved with helping the human race.  He is wrong to lump all ET contacts into one group and claim that all experiences are negative or manipulative in nature, for research has shown that a great deal of ET experiences are positive and enlightening.
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Reply #2 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 6:54pm
 
I read a number of his articles and he says there are friendly aliens.  However, going by how he has interpreted his own experiences with reptilians, the experiences of people he has worked with, and the work of abduction researcher Barbara Bartholic, a lot of abduction experiences involve negative aliens, because things are done such as gang rapes, beatings, intimidation and mind control that couldn't be a part of a benevolent plan friendly aliens are partaking in.

He states that there are abductees who won't consider evidence that depicts aliens in negative way, because the aliens who control them prevent them from doing so.

On the other hand, he knows of people who were controlled by reptilians (and the aliens that work with them), but their souls were strong enough to become free of such control.

He speaks of reptilians as if they are non-physical beings who can appear as physical beings. They don't always appear as reptilians. This being the case,  who knows what they really look like.

Whatever the case, these reptilians sure seem to have evil intent, and have been a very negative influence on this planet.

I've read several sources that seem to be credible who support the viewpoint that beings who appear as reptilians exist and they are quite nasty.

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Reply #3 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 10:45pm
 
I agree that there are probably certain levels of control imposed upon us by these beings, that is, if they exist.. mostly by indirect means.  But I think he is going a bit overboard by stating that everyone's dreams are manipulated by reptilians. 

I see two problems with researchers who focus only on the fear-based experiences.  One, they tend to neglect to incorporate ET contacts which are positive in nature, and therefore only have a little picture, rather than a complete, big picture.  And two, it can cause unnecessary fear, and can negatively distort the significance of experiences with friendly ETs. 

The sources I respect the most are those with the big picture.  They acknowledge the existence of the both the good and the bad ETs, with attention given proportional to the significance of each specific race and their interactions with us and one another.
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Reply #4 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 11:53pm
 
When it comes to my dreams I've received friendly messages. I haven't had dreams like James Bartley speaks about.

Karla Turner is one of the people who spoke about negative aliens. Reportedly, she died of cancer that was caused by them. After she died she reportedly made contact with some people. She stated that her concerns were justified, yet she also stated that there are friendly beings looking after us.

The attached interview speaks about this at the beginning and then later on.

http://www.whale.to/b/bartholic.html
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Reply #5 - Feb 17th, 2010 at 11:57pm
 
Here are some of the key words from the interview:

She had tutored me in the nuances of this particularly troubling facet of the alien abduction syndrome and I then independently confirmed her findings and added some of my own. Many have wondered as to the exact nature of the death of her first and foremost protege, Dr. Karla "Kandy" Turner. Some have speculated Kandy was murdered by the military. In fact Kandy was given cancer by the ETs. Frankly I'm surprised that Barbara  decided to share a little bit of this story in this interview. There is much more to it than the aliens giving Kandy cancer. There were other aspects to it, which I can't get into. What is particularly significant  is Barbara's revelation that Kandy has reached out from beyond the grave and contacted Barbara and passed on a message to her that was one of hope and ultimate victory. Keep this in mind because many of Barbara's and Kandy's critics and detractors are always bitching and moaning about how "negative" and "fear based" Kandy and Barbara are. I've had the same charge levelled at me. This is complete nonsense. If we were fear based we wouldn't be risking our lives doing what we do. And believe me, there are consequences to stepping over the line. Any half rate UFO researcher can get harassed by the military or government. But only the truly hard-core spiritual warriors get messed with directly by the reptilians and other negative ETs. This is the difference between the Big Leagues and the Minor Leagues. Its nothing to be proud of I assure you. I've been on the receiving end of such reptilian harassment and its nothing to write home about. Not only has Kandy contacted Barbara but she has contacted others I know. Kandy is not the only fallen spiritual warrior who has contacted us from "the other side." As the Obi Wan Kenobi character mentioned in the Star Wars epic to his nemesis and former protégé, Darth Vader "If you strike me down Darth, I will only grow stronger." Amen to that. Spiritual Warfare. That's what this gig is all about.


Message: (From Joanne) She’s murdered. (Karla’s message) The malfunction of your clock is the signal to you .that I am present. Must present facts. Must keep up work. Don’t stop because of fear. Fear is their power. Not finished fighting. Will help from other side. There are good forces there. If you do not speak out, you are all accomplices. Death is not an end. I will watch over you. You are a witness to a crime. I love you.

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Reply #6 - Feb 18th, 2010 at 9:29pm
 
recoverer wrote on Feb 17th, 2010 at 11:53pm:
When it comes to my dreams I've received friendly messages. I haven't had dreams like James Bartley speaks about.


If you wouldn't mind sharing some of your dreams, I would be interested to hear what happened.  I have also had dreams about ETs, but have read of no other experience like mine.
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 12:52pm
 
Rebecca:

I was speaking about my dreams in a general way, not alien specific.
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Reply #8 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 2:23pm
 
Oh, okay.
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Reply #9 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 3:07pm
 
OK Then....Well, seem like a bunch of crap to me Recoverer. Not that I dont believe there is contact with others. But this whole control, raping, dominance thing is just a little to far fetched for me. Many of us here have contact with those not of this world. But as I can only speak for myself. I have never had these sort of contacts and Spirit tells me these stories are mostly some sort of fantasies. Perhaps not all, but mostly.
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Reply #10 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 3:24pm
 
I have had a remarkably uneventful metaphysical life with anything negative.  All my experiences that have been negative have been strictly human-induced.  On the other hand, all my metaphysical experiences have been wonderful and fulfilling or enlightening. 

My sole "alien" experience was seeing movement just out of the corner of my eye.  It happened very frequently and I never felt threatened, but it was noticeable.  I asked a friend who is a seer who or what it was.  Apparently his name is "Bob"...a pleiadian, and he was just checking in on me as he is a friend of mine from the past.  He hasn't spent nearly as much time on earth as I have and doesn't really want to incarnate.  Apparently he cannot get the feel for our level of emotions and our actions as a result of that emotion.  He is happy for me and the level of emotional ability I have been able to develop (!).  I find that kind of funny because I tend to try to limit my emotional responses, as those of you who have read the "Evil People" thread can attest.  Anyway, my friend the seer said that was the oddest "reading" she has had.  He has seemed to leave me and pops in on her with a message for me now and again which she always calls to give me.  She says he is definitely an alien and only has a positive message. 
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Reply #11 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 3:32pm
 
The negative experiences of many people don't go away because some people have had possitive experiences.

We don't deal with unfriendly influences by pretending they don't exist.  We do so by acknowledging their existence enough so we don't allow them to mislead us.
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Reply #12 - Feb 19th, 2010 at 5:43pm
 
recoverer wrote on Feb 19th, 2010 at 3:32pm:
The negative experiences of many people don't go away because some people have had possitive experiences.

We don't deal with unfriendly influences by pretending they don't exist.


That is not what I was doing or saying...I was simply sharing my experiences which happened to be positive.  I do not pretend unfriendly influences do not exist...I deal with them daily...I choose to not let them rent space in my head.

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