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Feb 12th, 2010 at 9:41pm
 
Why would anyone want to live in the physical world when the afterlife is so much better? Huh
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Reply #1 - Feb 12th, 2010 at 10:06pm
 
Inventech5 wrote on Feb 12th, 2010 at 9:41pm:
Why would anyone want to live in the physical world when the afterlife is so much better? Huh


Hi Inventech5: That is an interesting question. I don't plan on coming back. Presumably I will be accompanying Robert Monroe incompany in the escape velocity procedure. But, remember right now most don't have a choice they are trapped in the Karmic cycle. Robert Bruce says he thinks anyone who doesn't want to be in the physical plane is nuts... this is where it is all happening. But, remember he is becoming a Facilitator (see my thread Re: The Facilitator) and creating a Light body which will give him control over his comings and goings... that is a whole world of difference between the involuntary birth cycle and the random incarnations into some horrifying situations... not my idea of fun.

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Reply #2 - Feb 13th, 2010 at 12:22pm
 
I don't know.
Can I play jazz gigs/ classical gigs/ conduct orchestras/  watch Steam trains/ model railroads/ see fabulous scenery/ listen to music/ fall in love/ watch Star Trek TNG & Voyager in the afterlife?

Either way I have to come back again, as I'm just getting a handle on this music lark and there's far too much more to find out and learn about music for this lifetime (let alone modelling railroads... Grin)

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Reply #3 - Feb 13th, 2010 at 2:42pm
 
different yes, but better....depends on your view point. Even given its addictiveness, the physical is a cool place to experience. I think its more fun the better you are at controlling that experience and the learning curve. Getting entrapped by the expearence..well...not so fun. Perhaps a floating or moving line would be better. Being able to exist comfortably in both levels/areas of consciousness. At will. This is a place of choices,wonderment, learning and love. I think it best to choose which experiences you would like to partake in and the time spent in this level of consciousness will be much more rewarding and worthy of the efforts it takes to be here. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.
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Reply #4 - Feb 14th, 2010 at 11:42pm
 
Inventech5 wrote on Feb 12th, 2010 at 9:41pm:
Why would anyone want to live in the physical world when the afterlife is so much better? Huh


I think it's for the experiences such as sex and emotion.  In the whole scheme of things and if we live forever, this focus may just be a fun ride or a nightmare with loads of variety.
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Reply #5 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 6:52am
 
Yeah, it's exactly like Disneyland.....sarcasm..... Smiley

I was a bit of an 'accident', kind of threw off the 'orbits' of a lot of people when I arrived. My mother occasionally said that I must have "really wanted to be here".

Maybe we didn't really want to be here, but we did want to be with each other, talking just like this. You can see what a challenge it is sometimes to communicate with those in the afterlife, because we feel so 'securely' in this world. So, presumably, we knew that, before coming here.

Maybe we thought love would be better this way, here, all together. Since we knew some of us would be waiting for the others when they returned, most of us wanted to come along and experience this place.

For good or for bad, the image of a young mother and her child: well, that's attractive. Obviously, lots of folks wanted to experience that.
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Reply #6 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 11:17am
 
I come back for the challenge.  That rush when you almost got your fool self killed doing something, but didn't, and by God you're alive!  Figuring something out that you were sure you couldn't do, and the tractor starts, or the dog finally learns his command, or any of a thousand things like that...those things aren't the same when you're somewhere that even if you self-impose challenges, you still know they're self-imposed.  It'll be a long time before I quit coming back, I imagine.
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Reply #7 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 1:02pm
 
My understanding is that we engage in physical lives in order to greatly enhance our chosen experiences;  those which occur in a three dimensional, dense location with the illusion of separateness provides various stressors which increase the value and effect of any experience.

I have spoken to someone who says her lives take place in a series of four lives, or quatrains, in which she works on a specific area of experience.  Does this sound familiar to anyone of you?  I am apparently in the fourth life of four in rapid succession, and while this, too, sounds like a quatrain, I have no idea what those other recent lives were about, nor whether there was any common thread.
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Reply #8 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:03pm
 
Why aren't we born with the memories and knowledge of our prior lives?
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Reply #9 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:14pm
 
hi inventec5 i have always felt when we experience dejarvu,they could be past memories from other lives we have lived,have you ever felt at times like you are sure you have done or been somewhere before,knowing that you haven't done or been there before in this life.

love and god bless    love juditha
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Reply #10 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:38pm
 
It'd be kind of hard to act all cute and innocent while we grow up if we were born that way, knowing so much, remembering our previous lives.

And we'd probably come out the womb even grumpier than we already do.

Can you imagine? If we remembered everything we'd already gone through, at birth? I'm sure some people do remember more than others. That wouldn't be me.
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Reply #11 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:59pm
 
Do we remember everything after death?
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Reply #12 - Feb 15th, 2010 at 6:24pm
 
I believe 'forgetting' is a gift. Maybe some people need it sooner than others....and maybe they get it.
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Reply #13 - Feb 16th, 2010 at 9:02am
 
Inventech5 wrote on Feb 15th, 2010 at 5:59pm:
Do we remember everything after death?


I asked one of my readers and she said that after our body dies we are brought forward back into our spiritual life, either slowly or quickly dependent on our comfort level.  Everything comes back to us...all previous lives, experiences, thoughts and it is dependent on what we need to clear up about the immediately past life that determines the "timeframe"...although time as we know it does not exist in spirit.
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Reply #14 - Feb 16th, 2010 at 5:50pm
 
I certainly don't claim to have all the answers, but here is my understanding (roughly) as of this time:

Physical life is an "adventure land" of sorts, in that it's a temporary place we go to have experiences we can't get anywhere else, and I think what makes that true is the very fact that we DON'T remember our past lives (if we have any) and that the threat of danger, pain, other bad things is part of what makes it unique/special/worth it because the reason we're here is to grow spiritually.

I think it's hard to grow spiritually in a world where there is no pain, no hardship, no danger, no risk, etc. (the afterlife).  Sure, there's lots you can probably still do with regards to access to knowledge, observation, and unlimited time to think about whatever you want, but only in a world like ours can you face challenges that you simply cannot face in a place like the afterlife.  This physical world allows us to challenge ourselves.

And again, I think that's why we don't remember our past lives upon a new trip:  It would tamper the experience of life to be born with all of your memories.  You'd be an "old man" in the body of a newborn infant.  Good luck experiencing your youth and what it means to grow, learn, gain new experiences, etc. if you come in "knowing it all" so to speak, with regards to what you can expect out of life (generally speaking).

And then, once you die, you have your life review, and then you recall your past lives, and pool the new data with the knowledge you had prior to your new birth, and all of that adds up to refining who you are as a spiritual being, allowing you to grow/evolve/advance.
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