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Reply #135 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 6:38am
 
Seraphis1,

"Is it our job to make people evolve or to just be available to those who cross our paths and engage us in a way that might lead to a meeting of the minds."

The questions then evolve into these: the board is to say how to evolve? Some individuals from the board or otherwise are to say how to evolve? What's evolved about forcing someone to reach someone's term(s) of evolvement?

"I will add this one probe achieving 'enlightenment' is so powerful that it changes the overall level of spiritual awareness exponentially orders of magnitude thruout the universe."

One probe reaches enlightenment, and for that probe everything changes, while the other probes are free to grow at their own paces. The thing about changing the world is that your/mine/etc. idea about change isn't going to cut it for everybody. Changing one's own world is a different matter.
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Reply #136 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 10:00am
 
Hi

That quote from Seraphis is set up as a rhetorical question, imo; he just forgot the question mark.  I read it as the 'we' is a more universal 'we,'   being anyone who is on such a path as the afterlife interest shared here. 
I don't see how anybody could organize such a group (board? this site only?) to get them to agree to anything Smiley,  other than each individual's desire to help. Just consider the variety of viewpoints that fuel these discussions and you can see that no one comes to a very complete agreement about what is what.

Seraphis, I would like to think that anyone achieving enlightenment creates energy so powerful that it reverberates through the universe ! Your wording sounds inspired--but I hope that the standards are not raised with each enlightenment!  It's hard enought o keep up as it is!  Cheesy

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Reply #137 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 2:46pm
 
Bets,

"I don't see how anybody could organize such a group (board? this site only?) to get them to agree to anything Smiley, other than each individual's desire to help."

To get them to agree implies an agreement that doesn't come naturally, and if 'with a little help' I'd wonder what kinda help that was.

I've observed some disagreements the last few days, and different ways of dealing with them. The most uncomplicated one I saw today. A customer picked up a bought food item but it fell out of his hands, and then blamed the clerk for the "mishap". The clerk said 'No, you did the picking up part', and then moved on to deal with the next orders. Some kind of balance, and a simple moment I found inspirational while waiting.

A day ago a friend of mine had a disagreement with a family member. The member was mean, but no return to sender by the receiver (ie. walking away, or saying two simple words), and my friend accepted to carry the frustration of the family member. Light.

Some days ago I saw the result of a disagreement on a video snippet. It involved a dog who allegedly had killed some chickens and a dude taking revenge for his mother. The dog was thrown off a bridge by the laughing dude. Broken feet, whimpering and a wagging tail. Dark.

"Just consider the variety of viewpoints that fuel these discussions and you can see that no one comes to a very complete agreement about what is what."

A diversity of viewpoints to form, adopt, share, reject, and be exposed to.

A myriad of timeperiods and cultures to incarnate into - a wealthy dutch businessman in 1748 with a hole in his heart or a whole heart to poke a stereotype, an indian beggar in 2010 with no arms but a son to evoke sympathy as her extended arms, a shaman of an indian tribe in the 1800s healing others' lost soul pieces while ignoring his own, a babylonian whore who loves the male energy more than the money.

A wide spectrum of character traits to choose from using astrological make-up, located all over the the polarity bar - a huge variety of probes having a huge variety of experiences in order to know balance and other.. stuff.

Eventually it works out. I guess.
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Reply #138 - Feb 22nd, 2010 at 11:17pm
 
Volu wrote on Feb 22nd, 2010 at 6:38am:
Seraphis1,

"Is it our job to make people evolve or to just be available to those who cross our paths and engage us in a way that might lead to a meeting of the minds."

The questions then evolve into these: the board is to say how to evolve? Some individuals from the board or otherwise are to say how to evolve? What's evolved about forcing someone to reach someone's term(s) of evolvement? .


As bets said this was rhetorical... and I am in perfect agreement with the idea that the path is 'chosen' individually not by force... it can't be forced... spiritual awakenings are a matter of 'grace' you either have grace or you don't. You have to earn it. Everyone on this board has that grace or you wouldn't be here...

Volu wrote on Feb 22nd, 2010 at 6:38am:
"I will add this one probe achieving 'enlightenment' is so powerful that it changes the overall level of spiritual awareness exponentially orders of magnitude thruout the universe."

One probe reaches enlightenment, and for that probe everything changes, while the other probes are free to grow at their own paces. The thing about changing the world is that your/mine/etc. idea about change isn't going to cut it for everybody. Changing one's own world is a different matter.


I depart from that thought by one point... All is One... The Universe is One... The Manifest/Unmanifest is pure love... out of this love, which is One comes creation... one probe not only changes for himself but sends an explosion of power in a ripple effect of light through out the Darkness and Light is experienced by all for a flash of a moment in time... and (I must be on the right track because I just saw a flash of intense blue light as I was writing)... is a little easier for all of us to progress. Think of this, why hasn't mankind destroyed itself yet... 80 to 90 percent of mankind are murderous thugs... I say the 10 percent are so powerful that they compensate and use inner power which overcomes force... (paraphrasing Dr. David Hawkins).

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