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Reply #15 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 2:11am
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 1:44am:
seeking_answers wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 1:15am:
Hi dirks,

about ur fear of dying....trust me i was crippled with it...but then again what other option do u have?...Whether or not an afterlife exists...is another question...the question is...would u know it when u die?...chances r not..unless u happen to be tortured by someone to death...dont fear death...


The real fear of death is the idea that after you die you simply cease to exist. AS a person once clinically dead I can assure you the essential you, your awareness and unique consciousness simply continues to exist usually in a much more beautiful place

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I said this in another thread, but I didn't used to have a fear of that at all. I liked the idea of not existing in death. Not that I desired it any time soon, but it's difficult for me to consider the things I enjoy here being carried into the afterlife. Like sleep? It kind of sucks getting to it but once you're there, sleep is amazing. I wonder about sleep in the afterlife. I always considered that if you cease to exist in death, how is that not peace? That is true eternal rest. How can we be in the afterlife and not carry emotions? I understand that fear could not exist and maybe that's the biggest difference. Maybe the disappearance of fear at acceptance is the true gift of the afterlife. There are just so many things to wonder about.

I really think the true fear of death is the discomfort in not truly knowing where you will end up. If it was as simple as having the knowledge "Yes, I will go to a great place and it will be wonderful" then technically fear could cease to exist even here. But the point of fear is to be the soul's biggest obstacle. And that's that difference too in "believing" and "knowing." I BELIEVE the afterlife is real and that it will be a great place, but I do not KNOW it. So therefore I still have fear.

But as was said in the other thread, death is beyond our control. When it happens, it happens and it WILL happen. I should also add that younger people probably fear death more than older people. Older people have had so many experiences and have reached a level that younger people haven't and so we feel that with seeing death and the many tragedies on a daily basis, that we may not get as far as we want to. I have this fear. My fear isn't death itself, but that it will come too soon. But what can I possibly do? I can't live so cautiously that I can't live. So I just let the thought sit, and I live day to day and get done what must be done.
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Reply #16 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:44am
 
What helped me the most with my fears was listening to the Going Home series that Robert Monroe put out, especially Disc 7. It didn't get me OoB, but it really helped me to ease my mind about death and gave me a fresh perspective on Bruce Moen's books too, which led me to look at things a bit more scientifically with Tom Campbell's "My Big TOE".

I have to say too that my fear of death was great when I was a child, but then eased in my early adult years and then returned as got into my mid forties (as  people around me began dying off). I hope you find something that works for you. It's much easier for me to live my life without fear of being dead; however, the fear of the dying process still haunts me at times.

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Reply #17 - Mar 12th, 2010 at 2:40pm
 
Beau wrote on Mar 12th, 2010 at 10:44am:
What helped me the most with my fears was listening to the Going Home series that Robert Monroe put out, especially Disc 7. It didn't get me OoB, but it really helped me to ease my mind about death and gave me a fresh perspective on Bruce Moen's books too, which led me to look at things a bit more scientifically with Tom Campbell's "My Big TOE".

I have to say too that my fear of death was great when I was a child, but then eased in my early adult years and then returned as got into my mid forties (as  people around me began dying off). I hope you find something that works for you. It's much easier for me to live my life without fear of being dead; however, the fear of the dying process still haunts me at times.

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Death is really just going through a portal into another realm of existence. What bothers me about death is the process of dying

Someone once said I really like the idea of heaven but I don't want to die to get there

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Reply #18 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:12am
 
Vicky wrote on Dec 26th, 2009 at 9:56pm:
Dariks,

Welcome to the Conversation Board!  There is a lot to read on this site that you will find beneficial to what you're looking for.  Have you read the article links?  Here is a link to a page on this website where it is outlined how to practice making afterlife contact. 

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/contact.html


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Hi Vicky
I see you are a redhead like me, or the me of years gone by,I now have a head full of silver grey hairs

Sorry just a little chat to lighten up things a little

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Reply #19 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:15am
 
Hi Is it really death we fear or is it the complete extinction of life and consciouness that we fear when we finally die?

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Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:15am:
Hi Is it really death we fear or is it the complete extinction of life and consciouness that we fear when we finally die?

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That's always a good question. Myself and many of my peers are pretty content with the idea of losing consciousness in death. To just not exist period. That to me is not bad at all as having nothing, no fear, pain, worries, thoughts would be the absolution to peace in my opinion. If you have no consciousness at all, then what is there to fear? I was content with this idea until discovering ghosts and and reaching enlightened epiphanies which more or less just kind of disappointed me until I can be assured fear evaporates in death. Only then would death would be worth something.

Now on the other hand, if it was revealed to the world one day that death was the complete end of consciousness...it's difficult to imagine what that would be like. I see many people losing hope, I see suicide rates increasing, I see depression hitting pretty strong. Now from a natural selection standpoint you could say that all these people affected negatively are the weak and they simply die out, while people content with that idea of death and still willing to live and survive would be the generation to push things forward. Still...I don't see much of an increase in good things.

And that's what really brought some attention to me. IF there was no afterlife. If there was no point to our existence...then why should love even exist? Why should good things exist at all? Because that idea of having no hope or belief that there is something better than this world is an awful realization. And that is almost its own truth to proving a better world does exist. Because without it, this world would know chaos. It would be worse than it already it is. And in truth, looking at how my life is now and how it has turned out...if I remained to have nothing to believe in and I had not found the knowledge I have recently found I would be in a really bad place.

It is indeed scary to conceive consciousness after death. Only because we do not know of the greatness awaiting. All we know is THIS life. So when a person tries to imagine the Afterlife, they imagine consciousness similar to life here. Even if you believe that things are so much better, unless you have experienced for yourself you can't truly comprehend it. I think there's more fear of the unknown as opposed to just death in general.

Also one should consider the bright side of fearing death, which is maybe loving life despite the woes. I've had many misfortunes and I'm not a happy person, but I still have a desire to live. If a spirit came to me now and told me I could enter the better world I would decline. Because there's still a lot I want to do here. So my greatest fear of death would be to die before I was ever able to achieve love and happiness in this life.
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Reply #21 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 10:08pm
 
StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 9:10pm:
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:15am:
Hi Is it really death we fear or is it the complete extinction of life and consciouness that we fear when we finally die?

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That's always a good question. Myself and many of my peers are pretty content with the idea of losing consciousness in death. To just not exist period. That to me is not bad at all as having nothing, no fear, pain, worries, thoughts would be the absolution to peace in my opinion. If you have no consciousness at all, then what is there to fear? I was content with this idea until discovering ghosts and and reaching enlightened epiphanies which more or less just kind of disappointed me until I can be assured fear evaporates in death. Only then would death would be worth something.

Now on the other hand, if it was revealed to the world one day that death was the complete end of consciousness...it's difficult to imagine what that would be like. I see many people losing hope, I see suicide rates increasing, I see depression hitting pretty strong. Now from a natural selection standpoint you could say that all these people affected negatively are the weak and they simply die out, while people content with that idea of death and still willing to live and survive would be the generation to push things forward. Still...I don't see much of an increase in good things.

And that's what really brought some attention to me. IF there was no afterlife. If there was no point to our existence...then why should love even exist? Why should good things exist at all? Because that idea of having no hope or belief that there is something better than this world is an awful realization. And that is almost its own truth to proving a better world does exist. Because without it, this world would know chaos. It would be worse than it already it is. And in truth, looking at how my life is now and how it has turned out...if I remained to have nothing to believe in and I had not found the knowledge I have recently found I would be in a really bad place.

It is indeed scary to conceive consciousness after death. Only because we do not know of the greatness awaiting. All we know is THIS life. So when a person tries to imagine the Afterlife, they imagine consciousness similar to life here. Even if you believe that things are so much better, unless you have experienced for yourself you can't truly comprehend it. I think there's more fear of the unknown as opposed to just death in general.

Also one should consider the bright side of fearing death, which is maybe loving life despite the woes. I've had many misfortunes and I'm not a happy person, but I still have a desire to live. If a spirit came to me now and told me I could enter the better world I would decline. Because there's still a lot I want to do here. So my greatest fear of death would be to die before I was ever able to achieve love and happiness in this life.


Imagine having feared the idea of death all your life and bent your whole existence around the axle of self-loathing, hell, damnation and sin...a life not lived outside the prison of guilt, shame and fear.  Then imagine the possibility of the release of death and finding to your amazement that everything that you had feared does not exist and you are in absolute bliss.  The extent of your control over the actual outcome of your life is absolutely the same as if you lived that life without fear or concern for what might come.      

Interestingly, for this conversation I just had a past life meditation in which I died in a car crash at the age of 17 in 1905.  I felt no fear of dying before and had thought I was invincible, so my death was a surprise.  I did feel fear for my sister and friends who were hurt in the car I drove and for the fact that I could not help.  I soon followed the light and found that I had planned, together with the others, to leave early and it was a choice made in our prelife planning to benefit all involved. 

Likewise, in my current life I never had any fear of death, either early or late.  As a young fool I was absolutely bullet-proof (read "protected") and was fortunate enough to realize my "luck" was beyond my doing...as a young adult, I was a little circumspect, and got out of the way of stuff that looked bad as it was coming toward me...later on I could feel the bad stuff from far away and just steered clear...in the past decade I seem to pick and choose what I have to deal with...some of it bad, some not so bad, and some downright fantastic...but it is almost a choice at this point.  I feel the nudge or the sense of challenge and I pull a situation off the conveyor belt as it passes by and deal with it and its ramifications.  All the possibilities are planned and the free will we all have is in choosing what we are going to experience.  I simply follow the clues.

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Reply #22 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 2:30am
 
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Your last post was very profound so profound that you should create your own blog and posts and upload your incisive thinking there.

Word of wisdom are immortal don't you think

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Reply #23 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 3:28am
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 2:30am:
Stone

Your last post was very profound so profound that you should create your own blog and posts and upload your incisive thinking there.

Word of wisdom are immortal don't you think

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I have thought a bit about doing this and have considered it. I've just been meditating about what I want to post about. I have a blog that no one besides me has ever read before and it's interesting to look at because I made it for my depression and it has so many upset and negative thoughts throughout it. It's amazing to see the transition of where I was from the beginning of it and where I am now.

I have some threads in mind and I'll more than likely get started on one tomorrow because I do have much to share from my head.
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Reply #24 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 4:02am
 
Hello Dariks, **welcome to the board**

I feel what u are having is a "wake up" call. You "thinking" of "death" is causing you to search for answers and explainations. It seems as if your soul is trying to remind you of what you truely are and by "scaring you to death" is the only way you are beginning to look at the option that there is no death, so its really "scaring you to life".  Wink

Keep searching and digging for the information. >> YOU WILL FIND IT.  Smiley

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StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 3:28am:
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 2:30am:
Stone

Your last post was very profound so profound that you should create your own blog and posts and upload your incisive thinking there.

Word of wisdom are immortal don't you think

Blessings and Light

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I have thought a bit about doing this and have considered it. I've just been meditating about what I want to post about. I have a blog that no one besides me has ever read before and it's interesting to look at because I made it for my depression and it has so many upset and negative thoughts throughout it. It's amazing to see the transition of where I was from the beginning of it and where I am now.

I have some threads in mind and I'll more than likely get started on one tomorrow because I do have much to share from my head.


Do you suffer from bipolar depression like me? Many great men were also suffers and used the manic phase as a driving force.

I have put my article on another forum that describes my Battle with this disordered. I firmly believe that many manic depressives  like me or you, are also very psychic

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Reply #26 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 12:51pm
 
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 4:59am:
StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 3:28am:
Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 2:30am:
Stone

Your last post was very profound so profound that you should create your own blog and posts and upload your incisive thinking there.

Word of wisdom are immortal don't you think

Blessings and Light

Alan


I have thought a bit about doing this and have considered it. I've just been meditating about what I want to post about. I have a blog that no one besides me has ever read before and it's interesting to look at because I made it for my depression and it has so many upset and negative thoughts throughout it. It's amazing to see the transition of where I was from the beginning of it and where I am now.

I have some threads in mind and I'll more than likely get started on one tomorrow because I do have much to share from my head.


Do you suffer from bipolar depression like me? Many great men were also suffers and used the manic phase as a driving force.

I have put my article on another forum that describes my Battle with this disordered. I firmly believe that many manic depressives  like me or you, are also very psychic

Blessings and light

Alan


I don't think it's bipolar or manic. The psychiatrist seemed to diagnose it as clinical depression which does run in my family and attributes I know to my uncle and my aunt on my mother's side.

So I'm not really sure what it is. I've been prescribed different antidepressants to take and I don't take a single one. I understand they may be able to help but I don't believe they are a solution. I've suffered though this for awhile on my own all the while dealing with several misfortunes, suicide thoughts, immature and unsupportive friends, a complete lack of a love/sex life, and then an arrest on top of it which furthered stress. But somehow I've managed to battle it all without medication or support.

All of this is what led me here in the first place. I got to a point where I really needed to understand my life and I needed to find myself and why the hell I even exist in the first place. Why I was capable of accessing thoughts that I personally know no one else to share. Then my reflections on experiences with spirits and the effects of drugs really fueled a desire to want to understand. I spent several weeks in anxiety, confusion, and fear of death.

But I'm a fighter and I've made it far enough to know that my strength and my ability to think and reason is part of great purpose. All of my struggles are a necessity to reach that understanding. I will reflect more on this in a separate thread. But while I haven't attempted access to any psychic abilities I do now understand that a part of me knows a truth that it's waiting for me to access.
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Reply #27 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 5:35pm
 
I thought a little more about this today Alan. Though I don't experience it as much these days, a lot of the year 2009 I went through many mood swings. Sometimes I would feel pits of despair. Sometimes I would feel extreme rage. It consumed me. It got pretty intense at times. But I held strong. I avoided the medications.

I think I see now that these disorders can be sustained by you alone. If you have the will to fight it. If you have the will and the desire to live and continue with your life I think in time it subsides as that is what has happened with me. It's still there but it only pokes me now rather than slapping me in the face. Maybe those struggles are essential to pulling us back to the truth. To conquer them brings more strength. I have never looked to god to solve my problems. I have never trusted in faith to get me through. My faith is inside me. I trust myself to prevail. I am the source of my life so it is through me I understand and find the wisdom and strength.
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StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
I thought a little more about this today Alan. Though I don't experience it as much these days, a lot of the year 2009 I went through many mood swings. Sometimes I would feel pits of despair. Sometimes I would feel extreme rage. It consumed me. It got pretty intense at times. But I held strong. I avoided the medications.

I think I see now that these disorders can be sustained by you alone. If you have the will to fight it. If you have the will and the desire to live and continue with your life I think in time it subsides as that is what has happened with me. It's still there but it only pokes me now rather than slapping me in the face. Maybe those struggles are essential to pulling us back to the truth. To conquer them brings more strength. I have never looked to god to solve my problems. I have never trusted in faith to get me through. My faith is inside me. I trust myself to prevail. I am the source of my life so it is through me I understand and find the wisdom and strength.


There are different types of depression, Reactive when you are depressed because of a whole lot of negatives and unresolved issue come into play

The other is clinical depression where you are depressed for no obvious reason. This type of depression really requires medication, the last kind of depression is what I have namely; bipolar disorder which I have but thank god I am now well balanced thanks to amazing drugs that enable me to function normally

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Alan McDougall wrote on Mar 25th, 2010 at 1:39am:
StoneColdTrue wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
I thought a little more about this today Alan. Though I don't experience it as much these days, a lot of the year 2009 I went through many mood swings. Sometimes I would feel pits of despair. Sometimes I would feel extreme rage. It consumed me. It got pretty intense at times. But I held strong. I avoided the medications.

I think I see now that these disorders can be sustained by you alone. If you have the will to fight it. If you have the will and the desire to live and continue with your life I think in time it subsides as that is what has happened with me. It's still there but it only pokes me now rather than slapping me in the face. Maybe those struggles are essential to pulling us back to the truth. To conquer them brings more strength. I have never looked to god to solve my problems. I have never trusted in faith to get me through. My faith is inside me. I trust myself to prevail. I am the source of my life so it is through me I understand and find the wisdom and strength.


There are different types of depression, Reactive when you are depressed because of a whole lot of negatives and unresolved issue come into play

The other is clinical depression where you are depressed for no obvious reason. This type of depression really requires medication, the last kind of depression is what I have namely; bipolar disorder which I have but thank god I am now well balanced thanks to amazing drugs that enable me to function normally

Blessing and light
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I think I have reactive and clinical. I've known depression for as long as I can remember. I do recall thoughts and even talk of suicide when I was 12. At 15 I was very confused and angry as most teenagers are, but I was lonely and sad most often. I finally discovered a group of friends at 16 and it was like finding a family. I felt like I was home. I remain with those friends today despite many troubles we are still all very close.

I admit there are several things in my life I was unhappy with which I believe spurred a reactive depression but I have always done well to suppress it. It was last year I would feel very random bits of depression without reason. This continues today but its not nearly to the extreme. My biggest discovery was finding that it greatly increases if I am not busy. My worst moments were last summer when I was on break from school, and this past December when I was on fall break from school. If I have things in my life to focus on and keep to my responsibilities it gets a little easier. I admit I truly miss marijuana. It was the only medication I trusted.
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